| 24-03-2008 12:14 PM |
| ajck |
> but I find the N95 eminently more "pocketable".
And I find the N95 a beast compared to the 6120 which is the most pocketable phone I've ever had.
And the 6220 Classic will offer an N95 in a 6120 sized package. Hurrah!
Speaking of which where's that 6220 review we were all promised over a month ago!? 
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| 24-03-2008 12:05 PM |
| Dogmann |
Hi all
Well personally i will always choose function over form but that doesn't mean i want a bland brick either but i really think we have become spoilt and for some reason view petite devices as a good thing they may well be for some devices but defiantly not for all like smart phones.
Now as some that has been involved in Mobile's since launch in the UK all of today's devices are small as i remember the first Motorola Portable the 8000S that also needed at least 3 battery's and and in car charger to make it through a day and the battery was bigger than most of todays phones.
I also remember the huge transportable phones many of us used mainly for the larger battery life, and remember well my Toshiba Libretto's.
Now my E90 has more Ram, faster processor, larger Screen and is much faster in operation and has Multimedia skills that trounce it. All of this is in a much smaller package to, for me i have never kept any device in pocket so as long as it has a nice case that sits on my waist comfortably that is all i need.
The E90 can easily be used as a phone whilst closed but when open the 4" screen and full QWERTY is a good trade off for the extra weight and size of the device IMO.
Marc
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| 23-03-2008 06:51 PM |
| Unregistered |
I can just get my E90 in my jeans front pocket, but I do have to sit down carefully....
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| 23-03-2008 05:50 PM |
| Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macboy
The iPhone has the ideal form factor, big high res screen, no front area wasted to buttons, and thin to be easy to pocket.
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I carry my phones in my trousers' front pocket. For me, the iPhone's width makes it "unpocketable" despite its thiness. There's lots about the iPhone to love, but I find the N95 eminently more "pocketable".
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| 23-03-2008 03:24 PM |
| Kazutoyo |
After trying several phones, I've come to the conclusion that the SE W660i (no smartphone unfortunately) got the "perfect" size for me (102.0 x 46.0 x 14.0 mm) and weight (93g). The Nokia 6120 Classic is reasonably close to that, while the 6220 Classic is slightly larger, yet lighter.
I don't care about the height of the phone much, but the width should be small (46mm), and it shouldn't be too thick or too thin (14mm is ideal for me). Too thin makes me unable to get a good comfortable grip around it, and gives me worries it might break, no matter how sturdy it is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by krisse
I would be VERY surprised if Nokia didn't make the 6220 N-Gage-compatible.
Just to make it clear, the N-Gage compatibility list is never final, Nokia's said they're going to continually add new devices to it as they're released. The current list is just the starting point.
They've also said they will definitely be adding non-Nseries S60 devices to the list, which I reckon means the 6220 and 6210 and perhaps all future S60s too.
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I hope you're right about that It would give me a very strong reason to buy a 6220.
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| 23-03-2008 02:06 PM |
| slitchfield |
Ah, I was waiting for someone to mention the iPhone 8-)
Actually, I agree, the iPhone has a pretty great size and form factor, it certainly hits *a* sweet spot. But it falls down in the one-handed use/robustness stakes, in my opinion.
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| 23-03-2008 02:03 PM |
| Macboy |
The iPhone has the ideal form factor, big high res screen, no front area wasted to buttons, and thin to be easy to pocket.
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| 23-03-2008 12:25 PM |
| Unregistered |
N82 fits the bill
I think Nokia have got the balance right with the N82. It falls into the slips easily into my pocket category and still gives you quite alot of power.
Works great alongside my N810
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| 22-03-2008 03:00 PM |
| Unregistered |
I have the 6120 and it's the best phone I've had and as soon as the 6220 is available I be first in line for one.
I think the weight of the phone rather than the size is important to me.
I would be happy to change the keys for a larger (touch) screen as long as the weight remains under 90 grams; (this weight seems to be the cross over weight between a smartphone and a pda phone; to me anyway.
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| 22-03-2008 10:31 AM |
| doonit |
I'm still loving the size and everything else about my old E61. People invariably take a look at it and ask how I can possibly carry such a brick. But how can you possibly ignore the huge screen and fantastic qwerty keyboard. It is a little broad but quite flat and IMHO fits in my jeans pocket just fine. Just gotta do something about all those scratches!
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| 22-03-2008 09:34 AM |
| langdona |
I now think 2 devices is a must. Yes use your smartphone for day to day use but you need something bigger for comfortable web browsing or more serious data entry. For me my old E61 (yes I must upgrade some time and the so easy to use Asus eee (deliberately not done anything more than use the default configuration) is an ideal combination. Well at least when I'm using the free WiFi in a hotel in Alderney watching a gale and hoping the little 15 seater plane will be flying to Sothampton today!
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| 22-03-2008 05:23 AM |
| miko |
well, for me e61i is the ideal size. wide enough for a 2.8 screen, and a comfortable qwerty key. but thin enough to fit into my trouser pocket or shirt front pocket. it actually replaces my pack of cigarette every now and then...but when o when are they upgrading it?
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| 21-03-2008 08:55 PM |
| sjhong |
@Steve Litchfield
A bit of a personal question but how small are your hands? In the Smartphones Show, every device looks so big when you're holding them. I'm a guy with average height (5'11") and build and the N95, the E90 and even the N810 feel very small in my hands.
Maybe you should turn off the spam filter??
 
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| 21-03-2008 07:59 PM |
| Steve 'Chippy' |
Why compare? You're talking about secondary devices.
There's one thing that the smartphone won't be able to achieve in the next 5 years. Big screen (800x4800 with a sensible PPI) and a decent input mechnism. Keyboards are good, but still make smartphones too big to be 24/7 devices.
Video, Internet and input are the three things that phones have a problem with and so, for the same reason that an Archos 605 exists, or an iPod touch exists, there will be optional companion device to choose from for those that want them. MIDs, PMPs, UMPCs, PNDs. Midgets, if you like! They're not just desired by geeks but by people that want a specialist device.
Steve.
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| 21-03-2008 04:58 PM |
| unregistered |
E90's too big for me, waiting for update of E70
After long waiting for the right phone I bought an E70 in Nov 2006. Then as E90 came out, I doubted if my decision was right. Having a look at the E90 I have to say: No, this is not what I want to have as phone, it's just too big. Now my trouble starts. I am looking for a new phone because E70 only accepts max. 2 GB of storage card. The Wikipedia in german already takes 1.4 GB, and I want to have some space for pictures and movies and similar, and I'd like to have at least 3-4 GB space for my music (OGG/Vorbis). The E70 despite the memory card restriction is exactly what I want:
- 320x240 is not enough. 352x416 is much better
- The QWERTY is fantastic while being not bigger than another phone
- There is no touchscreen (this is important for me, don't like 'em)
- WLAN is wonderful e. g. to get pictures from the card (using WebDAV via Apache/Raccoon)
I'd be willing to spend quite some money for my next phone if it fulfils my needs, but I don't see any device that comes even close to it. Sadly I expect that Nokia won''t update the E70. It would be ok to have a firmware update for support of SDHC or another device in the E70 form factor (but more resolution than that 320x240!). My opinion is that Nokia made the decision that the market for such a wonderful device just isn't big enough. That's very sad if true.
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