| 22-03-2008 01:50 PM |
| Unregistered |
Typical Symbian Love From the Geeks
All that Mac hate is distracting you guys from the bigger picture that most likely often evades you. You all know that Symbian is total s**t right? Even Sony, part owners of Symbian as you well know, has started making smartphones with Microsoft's mobile OS instead!!
In addition, I'm sure that not one of you has left your closed-minded geek cave long enough to even be allowed near an iPhone, let alone spent any real time with one.
I can't believe that someone could be retarded enough to draw conclusions about iphone usage from the PC Pro mobile website stats!! Hahahaha.
Gimps!
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| 10-03-2008 01:46 PM |
| Menneisyys |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
The other factor here for mobile web access is that iPhone is restricted to WiFi, doesn't have 3G so isn't as truly mobile as other devices, for instance a normal phone sold on a network with an inclusive data plan wil browse websites anywhere practically as fast as WiFi. An iPhone restricted to a poor EDGE infrastructure is actually a pretty awful browsing experience I can vouch. In all the places I have Wi-Fi I have 17 Inch screens and qwerty.
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Sun has just announced they'd write a MIDlet manager for the iPhone (I've just published an article on my blog on this). This means Opera Mini will also run, which, in turn, means FAR better speed over EDGE.
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| 10-03-2008 01:45 PM |
| Menneisyys |
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Originally Posted by ramzez
LOL, blackberry should be quite embarrassing as well then
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You mean you can't use the BB as a one-hand device? Strange, I, most of the time, use it (model 8800) with one hand only - perfectly usable. It's only when entering text that I use both hands to make it faster.
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| 10-03-2008 01:43 PM |
| Menneisyys |
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Originally Posted by slitchfield
Nope. May. Magazines have silly date stamps in the UK these days 8-(
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Not only in the UK - in the States too 
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| 10-03-2008 01:42 PM |
| Menneisyys |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Well I am surprised about this list. I have a N95 and I do a great deal of mobile browsing during my daily commute to work everyday. It works fine and has 3.5 but after using an iPhone over wi-fi I think it is absolutely mandatory for Nokia to follow through the web experience that you can have with an iPhone, and guess what for that I hate the N96!. Of course I haven't bought and will never buy a mobile that does not support 3g or higher so iPhone has to improve there too. Please nokia make a 3G N810 I implore you!!!
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The N96 isn't a follow-up device to the N95 (it lacks for example 3D acceleration), so, you don't need to be angry - I'm pretty sure Nokia will release a brand new, touchsceen-based model later this year.
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| 10-03-2008 01:41 PM |
| Menneisyys |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
'what do you need 3G for? correct me if i am wrong but Blackberries are not 3G and people happy to use that, besides if you are talking about 3G without HSDPA (which is really 3.5G) the speed is the same as EDGE'
3G is a loose term that people use for the service available to modern phones with HSDPA, much faster than EDGE. Once I get to a place where HSDPA isn't availabe the browse performance becomes so poor that I don't bother anymore. This is the iPhone experience every where that there is no WiFi.
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well, if you use Opera Mini, the difference between pre-3G and 3+G will be MUCH smaller than with regular browsers like Opera Web.
For example, much as the N95 has a really great Web browser, I still prefer using Opera Mini on it. Just like with my Blackberry 8800.
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| 10-03-2008 01:39 PM |
| Menneisyys |
1. It's pretty strange they refer to Windows Mobile devices as "iPAQ HX series". (I assume they've mistaken for "iPAQ HX series" for Windows mobile in general - it's pretty much impossible the iPAQ hx models, which are in no way the dominant Pocket PC's nowadays, are around the top of the list, while much more popular models like the Kaiser are nowhere to be seen.)
2. Did they examine the original devices when receiving Opera Mini requests? Opera Mini, now, also passes the original OS in its extended (X-) HTTP request headers.
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| 10-03-2008 11:07 AM |
| Unregistered |
'what do you need 3G for? correct me if i am wrong but Blackberries are not 3G and people happy to use that, besides if you are talking about 3G without HSDPA (which is really 3.5G) the speed is the same as EDGE'
3G is a loose term that people use for the service available to modern phones with HSDPA, much faster than EDGE. Once I get to a place where HSDPA isn't availabe the browse performance becomes so poor that I don't bother anymore. This is the iPhone experience every where that there is no WiFi.
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| 09-03-2008 03:04 PM |
| Unregistered |
Well I am surprised about this list. I have a N95 and I do a great deal of mobile browsing during my daily commute to work everyday. It works fine and has 3.5 but after using an iPhone over wi-fi I think it is absolutely mandatory for Nokia to follow through the web experience that you can have with an iPhone, and guess what for that I hate the N96!. Of course I haven't bought and will never buy a mobile that does not support 3g or higher so iPhone has to improve there too. Please nokia make a 3G N810 I implore you!!!
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| 08-03-2008 10:38 PM |
| bartmanekul |
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Originally Posted by ramzez
Don't forget you are buying an iPod + Phone, not a phone! so, if you deduce iPod touch of 199 pounds, means you pay 50 pounds for the phone.
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In that case, lets take off xx amount for a GPS device, xx amount for a wireless device, xx amount for a 5mp camera....
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| 08-03-2008 09:39 PM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by ramzez
that's very true, but why geeks? are people who bought Nokia 8800 with less features geeks?
Don't forget you are buying an iPod + Phone, not a phone! so, if you deduce iPod touch of 199 pounds, means you pay 50 pounds for the phone.
I am not defending, but i just don't seem why people think of it as a phone only, that's incorrect way of comparing. Now of course you will start comparing it to the N95 which doesn't offer big display and great battery life, and it's music player usability is questionable, not taking touch screen capability - but that would be too geeky.
I know it is hard to take a change, but don't think of iPhone as a phone, think of it as iPod Touch + phone capabilities.
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Please don't try to justify the pricing of the iPhone. There is no justification for it at-all apart from the fact that good old Jobsy thinks we're as easily fooled as our friends in the US and it seems you're one of the people who has fallen for his mastery in the art of scamming.
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| 08-03-2008 09:26 PM |
| slitchfield |
"doh...hardly a place where Phone users are going to visit" - oh, exactly. Which is why I was just trying to point out that you can pick stats to support almost anything if you try hard enough.
Across the world, I'd bet that there's far more data bandwidth being used by S60 smartphones, all 100 million of them, than all iPhones, even with their flat rate plan.... 8-)
But the differences in markets, the differences in data tariffs, make this sort of thing incredibly hard to compare meaningfully.
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| 08-03-2008 08:59 PM |
| Valahian |
i use n95 8gb.
I have a prepay orange and n95 8gb free.All browser function its great to use and some 80% of time is for internet.3,50 eu for 3 months is unlimited.
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| 08-03-2008 06:48 PM |
| Unregistered |
the stats only apply to people browsing to the PCPro website...doh...hardly a place where Phone users are going to visit.
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| 08-03-2008 06:05 PM |
| neilhoskins |
May 2008?
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