| 08-08-2008 09:06 AM |
| Unregistered |
N95 and N82 have overly aggressive JPG compression
As another commenter noted, the overly aggressive JPG compression is ruining details in photos in both the N95 and N82. It's ridiculous because 1) the camera is from a hardware point of perfectly capable of capturing said detail (it takes more work by the processor to blur things out and compress it so much) and 2) all we need is a really simple software update that controls the level of compression.
The N95 and N82 are getting really close to being able to replace your day-to-day point-and-shoot indoor-taking-pictures-with-friends cameras, but the quality isn't there if they are going to compress so highly and blur out everything. What's the point of 5MP then?
I hope that the delay in the N82 firmware has more to do with adding this feature than with engineers being moved to work on the N96.
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| 18-03-2008 01:10 PM |
| Unregistered |
I Ruined my N95!
I made the fatal mistake of updating the firmware, i now realise it was a fatal mistake.
they should no longer advertise 5 megapixel!
as far as i am concerned squeezing 14.4 megs of data into ridiculous 600k file just doesnt cut it, this is not good enough!!
The old firmware v11 took much better photos (1.5 to 2 megs), i could read book titles off a picture taken against a wall of books, plus, sharp images was default.
now i get a white foggy effect and file size is less than half!
might as well chuck it..
I was looking forward to getting a N96, but now, i will look seriously at photo filesize before i decide anything, if its not at least 2 megs on max quality photos, then forget it..
youre not getting what u paid for!
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| 11-02-2008 12:56 PM |
| Unregistered |
Advice N95 classic
thx for interesting article
I was hoping that my N95 could replace my Sony DSC T100 when I cycle in the mountains - so I can carry less things.
But the camera's photos on auto are so colourless!!!! Deep blue skies seem dull, etc.
Very disappointing
Are there any settings that might help
Firmware 12.0.013 (the latest version allowed by my service provider)
many thanks
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| 21-12-2007 02:25 PM |
| mmoonsamy |
http://www.gsmarena.com/5_megapixel_...review-191.php
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| 16-12-2007 02:49 PM |
| deekdeekster |
Sony Ericsson k800i vs Nokia N95 v1
I took delivery of my N95 v1 with great expectations on Friday, but it's going back Monday. Camera is seriously sub-standard - plus the WiFi is clunky and the keyboard is tiny and difficult to use, but that's for another thread.
I come from an audio-visual background so I'm sensitive to these things, and I commend your article for it's depth, but image-wise, you didn't mention the video, which is equally bad.
At 5MP I've been judging the N95 up against my old 3.2MP Sony E and it's way beneath - the colours are washed out and the blacks grey-ish, you can particularly see that on natural shades, wood, leaves etc; and that is not just edges, it's colour fidelity. Sony Ericsson is Euro/Japan technology - I think this shows, because I certainly get good results in nature photos from the SE.
The firmware upgrade might well improve the photography but I sense that is not all we are dealing with. My Sony 3.2 plants 800-900k files on my 1GB card - the Nokia saves only 600-700k files, even at highest resolution, so the N95 compression is over-cooked. Like the previous guy said, with all that disk space, give us the option for raw. The focus is also temperamental. Sad, really, because I was totally ready to jump ship and return to Symbian - a missed opportunity, there, Mr Nokia.
Check out Flickr for comparison photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/deekster/
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| 06-12-2007 07:48 AM |
| slitchfield |
Hmm.... auto-focus seems about the same on my two units. I hadn't noticed a change. Probably some other explanation for your slow focussing speed previously? Ditto for focus. Although it's possible that they tweaked the focal length algorithms in terms of where the camera starts to 'hunt' for each scene mode.
Are you sure you didn't just have some dirt on the lens before? 8-)
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| 05-12-2007 04:37 PM |
| ltomovski |
Why didn't you mention the focus phase
With v12 It took weeks to focus and a 60% chance the picture to be out of focus... With v20 the aoutofocus works great fast and focueses almost 100%
Regards
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| 04-12-2007 01:02 PM |
| Unregistered |
erm.. photoshop..
It's a lot easier to sharp an unprocessed image than 'unsharp' a processed one. I'm rather glad they have ditched the mandatory processing. Would be nice if they made it optional tho, to keep those who like the artificial edges happy.
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| 04-12-2007 09:34 AM |
| Al-Dallal |
that was terrible
Dear Steve
With all the respect to you, this was the most terrible post you ever posted, you are talking about the n95 camera performance as if it was a professional 10mp digi cam, the n95 camera with its "Carl Zeiss" lens is no where near an average "low class" 5mp standalone digital camera specially in low light conditions, it is certainly the best camera phone exist, how ever i upgraded from my N95 to N95 8GB i still keep both of them waiting to sell the old one, i did alot of comparisons between them, i ended up with the conclusion that the N95 8gb really sucks and stopped using it taking random pictures because most of the pictures im interested in snapping are on low light condition, i really hope nokia will consider it and give us back a good camera performance with all the crap of "sharpness and unnatural" photo performance cause at least it makes the picture quality somehow acceptable for a mobile camera in all conditions, even though it becomes slower in snap shots.
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| 04-12-2007 09:33 AM |
| Unregistered |
snoyt:
Steve, thanks for the pictures. I can report that it seems there is little difference in the jpeg compression between the firmwares. It does tend to do a too heavy compression in the shady parts. It is tricky to get the codec to ignore sensor noise and keep image details preserved. Still the ability to tweak the compression settings to a decent quality should be present in any decent camera.
Concerning the spam question. 1+1 is actually 10. Signing in really anoys me. I am dying in logins... I like Darla's solution best.
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| 04-12-2007 07:45 AM |
| slitchfield |
Can I make a general plea for people to bother to sign in before commenting? It would make a world of difference to have clear usernames or nicknames to refer to rather than having to keep talking about 'what Unregistered said' etc.
8-)
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| 04-12-2007 02:19 AM |
| Unregistered |
What one of you other unregistered people said about "excess" applies to pretty much every single digital camera that fits in your pocket. DSLR is the only way to go to avoid all the excess "blah blah". That's just how it is.
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| 04-12-2007 12:29 AM |
| Zeitgeist |
"So, for example, those in the Far East prefer (almost unnaturally) vivid colours whereas in Europe we prefer something sharper but 'cooler'. Manufacturers know this and tweak their algorithms accordingly."
So, from this statement, should we understand that if you take your N95 (for instance) and change the product code to any Asia-Pacific one before performing a firmware upgrade, probably that firmware will be tweaked to different settings concerning, in this case, color temperature, bright, etc. ? Anyone around here has ever had the opportunity to confirm it?? Interesting however.......
I already suspected that people in Asia prefer brighter and more saturated color tones, looking at photos taken by themselves, but I had never thought that even the own manufacturer could consider a direct tweaking of the camera settings to better fit a specific region........
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| 03-12-2007 10:42 PM |
| Dr Tran |
There ought to be a RAW option. We have huge memory cards to store large image files. I dont see why its not an option.
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| 03-12-2007 09:42 PM |
| Unregistered |
Hi there Unregistered post #14.
You're forgetting focus. Plus you should see what each of the 3 sharpness camera settings does to objects that are out of focus.
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