Bricked my N97?... [Archive] - All About Symbian Forums

Fats

02-07-2009, 12:32 PM

You could try this post

http://dailymobile.se/forum/index.php?topic=1792.0

Haven't picked up my N97 yet, was planning to debrand and upgrade firmware as soon as I got it, now I'm getting worried with all these bricking stories.

Let us know how you get on, it would be good to know there's an escape route to revive a dead phone ourselves or else it will be time to don the blagging hat and contact customer services.

Good Luck

Holy crap this worked!!

Everyone that managed to brick their phone using JAF to debrand then NSU to update needs to check this out.

I used NAVIFIRM to download the v11 firmware set.
I had to fiddle with JAF because it didn't automatically pick up the correct ROMs, so I had to select them manually as follows:

MCU Flash file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.core.C00
PPM Flash file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.rofs2.V01
CNT Flash file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM-505_11.0.021_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx
APE Variant file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM505_507_11.0.021_uda1_001.u da.fpsx

Select Maunal Flash, Dead USB, Factory Set and Normal mode and hit flash.

My N97 is now working again. I'm guessing it's on the right firmware because that's what I flashed, what's the *# code to check?

TYVM for the heads-up, andonevris.

davwil

02-07-2009, 12:44 PM

Biggzy

02-07-2009, 01:25 PM

glad to hear you guys finaly fixed your phones

managerxxx

02-07-2009, 02:10 PM

Credit to Davwill and Fats - My N97 has recovered too!! Many thanks guys. Wow, what a turn up for the books.

YAY :-)

Biggzy

02-07-2009, 02:32 PM

this thread needs to be spread around other forums so ppl can revive there n97s

andonevris

02-07-2009, 02:37 PM

TYVM for the heads-up, andonevris.

No problem Fats. Glad it worked :)

Not so worried about messing with my N97 now .....when I finally get it

jmcgrath

02-07-2009, 02:42 PM

davwil

02-07-2009, 03:07 PM

Hi John

Make sure the nokia firmware are in C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505

It took a few restart's of Jaf to to get it to recognise the new files.
Also pressing the power on button at the right button took a few goes.

Persistence is the key ;-)

Cheers David

MrAaronVenn

02-07-2009, 03:21 PM

Holy crap this worked!!

Everyone that managed to brick their phone using JAF to debrand then NSU to update needs to check this out.

I used NAVIFIRM to download the v11 firmware set.
I had to fiddle with JAF because it didn't automatically pick up the correct ROMs, so I had to select them manually as follows:

MCU Flash file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.core.C00
PPM Flash file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.rofs2.V01
CNT Flash file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM-505_11.0.021_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx
APE Variant file: C:\Temp\N97\firmware\RM505_507_11.0.021_uda1_001.u da.fpsx

Select Maunal Flash, Dead USB, Factory Set and Normal mode and hit flash.

My N97 is now working again. I'm guessing it's on the right firmware because that's what I flashed, what's the *# code to check?

TYVM for the heads-up, andonevris.

Thank you so much mate for making this is so much easier & step by step.
I was trolling the forums for hours trying to find .ini files and all this crap...but anyways...

My ressurection goes fine until it gets to the "Pooling Phone" bit. The screen goes all LCD liney, then stops.
Then, JAF says something along the lines of:
"Did your phone turn back on, Yes No?"
when I click "No" cos it didn't back come back on, it just says "Done!" and finishes.
Though its not actually done, as the phone doesnt turn back on or do anything.

So I try it all again, but then click...YES
But when I click "Yes" JAF thinks for a while then says...
"Phone not found...
Second try...
MCUSW: (null)
APESW: (null)
VariantSW: (null)
Prodcode:
Setting test mode...
Failed! Aborting!
Done!"

It doesn't turn on or anything.
And JAF has finished.
All the while my laptop keeps making the "Ba-dum" noise of a USB being plugged in & out so it must have done something good?!

Does anyone have any ideas of what to do when it stops after Pooling?
Or tips as to why this might be happening?
Any help would be appreciated cos im sure if I take it to a Nokia Care Centre they'll whinge and chastise me....
Even if you email me its all good I don't mind i'd just like my phone to be working again after all this unpleasantness...

thanks again guys

managerxxx

02-07-2009, 04:24 PM

Folks,

I'm struggling here so please help.

When trying to locate the MCU file it is only letting me select CMT files. I can select the PPM, CNT and APE files without any problems.

I have also copied the jaf 1.98.64 ini files and I can see the N97 option but it does not seem to pick it up.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

John

Yes I had the same issue - took me a couple of tries to discover if you simply type the path to the C00 file it'll accept it no problem.

Hope this helps

jmcgrath

02-07-2009, 04:27 PM

Woooooop Woooooop Wooooooop !!!!!

I managed to get my N97 working again.

A huge thank you to everyone, especially Fats and davwil. It was Dave's final comment of putting the FW files in a RM-505 folder that made the difference I think. I just had them sitting in the products folder. As soon as I did that JAF picked them up, everything was green and the re-flashing worked first time.

So thanks again everyone. I have to go now before the tears of joy short out me keyboard.

John

nokion

02-07-2009, 05:18 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to the guys that have posted in here. You've saved my bacon (and my phone). Now working again thankfully. :)

One thing I have noticed is that I no longer have a start up tone when I power on the phone. I think I missed out the media pack file when I flashed the handset :redface: Is it possible to just follow the procedure again but only select the media pack file to correct this?

Mike.mp

02-07-2009, 05:34 PM

Nokion, you better just flash it again, but with NSU. Should be easy.

nokion

02-07-2009, 05:36 PM

Nokion, you better just flash it again, but with NSU. Should be easy.

After my previous encounter this afternoon I'm pretty wary of using NSU again. Perhaps I'll just go through the flashing process again.

Mike.mp

02-07-2009, 05:41 PM

Its up to you, but it wont harm phone now :) Take easy way, and IF it won't work, you already know how to fix it.

291

02-07-2009, 06:50 PM

davwil

02-07-2009, 06:56 PM

It was a real pleasure to share the pain. :cool:

Now I would like to know why the NSU update broke the phone quite so badly.

Is it only vodafone N97's that have had this problem or is it more wide spread?

Cheers David

nokion

02-07-2009, 07:04 PM

Its up to you, but it wont harm phone now :) Take easy way, and IF it won't work, you already know how to fix it.

Fair point. I've done it now and the tone has returned. Still not getting any widgets though but that's not an issue really.

davwil, I think someone in this thread stated it happened to their 3 handset too.

doggybs

02-07-2009, 08:17 PM

Hi, My N97 is not bricked, but i am trying to install the last firmware.

I have followed the instructions above, but I am start with the phone turned on, and DEAD USB option unselected.

It re-boots the phone, and gets as far as stage 2, and the stops. I turn on the phone and it as if nothing has changed.

What am i doing wrong?

JAF version 1.98.62
Detected PKEY: 9000D75A
Card life counter: 99.99%
P-key nokia module version 01.02
FBUS INTERFACE NOT CONNECTED!!!
USB Cable Driver version: 7.1.16.0
Changing mode...Done!
Detected P-KEY: 9000D75A
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Init usb communication...
Reading product code...
Product Code: 0585262
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\

Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
Scanning ini files...
Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
FILES SET FOR FLASHING:
MCU Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.core.C00
PPM Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.rofs2.V01
CNT Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx
APE Variant file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM505_507_11.0.021_uda1_001.uda.fpsx
Languages in ppm: English,German,Russian,Bulgarian,Romanian,Ukrainia n
Backing up CRT...
Detected P-KEY: 9000D75A
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Init usb communication...
Reading IMEI...
C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\ProgData\354225031224293_CRT_backu p_21527.pm
Done!
Backup CRT OK!
Detected P-KEY: 9000D75A
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Init usb communication...
Searching for phone...Found
Reading SW version...ICPR72_09w17.3 10.0.012
Reading battery value...4065 mV
Init usb flashing...
Reading flashid...
CMT: 004000EC <=> SAMSUNG (SEC) -> KAT00F00RA
APE: 00000000 <=> Flash -> not detected
Verifing ADL communication... Status byte 7
Rebooting to flash mode...
Waiting for the phone to reboot...
Searching for phone...
Sending RAW loader...
Using 009.008.003
Elf2flash 09.11.000
CMT RAW loader...
Patching RAW boot step1...
Patching RAW boot step2...
Patching RAW boot step3...
Sending RAW Loader...
....................Loader Sent!
Stage 2 starting...............

doggybs

02-07-2009, 08:45 PM

its ok i sorted it. It turns out you have to break your phone first, before you can upgrade lol.

So i changed the prod-code, used the nokia updator to break it, then JAF fixed it.

Winner. Cheers for the info guys.

MrAaronVenn

03-07-2009, 02:19 AM

Thanks a lot guys, I managed to get mine flashed and unbricked! I recommend copying over the latest .ini files from jaf version 1.98.64 and then you can just select 'use .INI' option and select the correct model, it then sorts all the firmware files out (provided they are in the C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505). Then its just a case of timing, to turn the device on when it says. Took a few attempts.
All good. Thanks again everyone! :)

What or where are these .INI files?
I've installed/copied whatever the latest JAF 1.98.64 .ini's over.
So when I click "use ini" yes, the N97 is listed.

Then it searches the folder and says there's nothing there.
Um, yes there is, there's the 14 files I downloaded off Navifirm.

I can paste them manually doing in order such as MCU, PPM, CNT whatever
but then it gets to "Pooling" and stops.

Whats happening?
If Nokia Care can't fix this phone i'm going to throw it off my local bridge.
I didn't pay $1000 to have a paperweight thanks to their suggested Software Upgrader that breaks your phone.

LJS

03-07-2009, 07:23 AM

What or where are these .INI files?
I've installed/copied whatever the latest JAF 1.98.64 .ini's over.
So when I click "use ini" yes, the N97 is listed.

Then it searches the folder and says there's nothing there.
Um, yes there is, there's the 14 files I downloaded off Navifirm.

I can paste them manually doing in order such as MCU, PPM, CNT whatever
but then it gets to "Pooling" and stops.

Whats happening?
If Nokia Care can't fix this phone i'm going to throw it off my local bridge.
I didn't pay $1000 to have a paperweight thanks to their suggested Software Upgrader that breaks your phone.

I had the same issue after downloading the files through Navifirm, jaf just wouldn't find them. I then downloaded the image using phoenix and jaf then picked up the previous files, very bizarre.

Incidentally I probably wouldn't have had to use jaf if the damn NSU didn't hang halfway through the flashing process, damn you nokia and thank you jaf :) .

davwil

03-07-2009, 07:28 AM

Please don't throw your phone in the river - recycle it responsibly - as it contains some nasty chemicals for which the fish or ducks will not thank you for. Or better yet give it to some one else.

or

You could read the instructions at http://dailymobile.se/forum/index.php?topic=1792.0 which talks about the need to download the navifirm tool which will download the necessary n97 firmware to your desktop pc.

Cheers David

nokion

03-07-2009, 07:32 AM

The method that worked for me was to not use the 'use ini' function and just do it all manually. Make sure that you have all the correct boxes checked and try again. It may take a few goes as mine didn't work first, second or third time.

Maybe you could post your log up on here and someone might take a look at it for you?

jmcgrath

03-07-2009, 07:33 AM

MrAaronVenn I was having the same problem, but when I had the FW files in the products folder under C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products. When I created the RM-505 folder under products (C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505) and then copied the FW files in there everything worked first time.

I hope that helps.

John

MrAaronVenn

03-07-2009, 09:08 AM

Incidentally I probably wouldn't have had to use jaf if the damn NSU didn't hang halfway through the flashing process, damn you nokia and thank you jaf :) .

Hear Hear!
Boo Hiss NSU for ruining everything
my past 9 phones that i've updated that way have been fine.
Why'd it have the ruin the good one?

Unplugged

03-07-2009, 09:13 AM

If you download the latest version of JAF and extract the inis from the zip to the jaf installation folder then N97 will appear in the "Use INI" list. As long as the firmware is on the correct location ( phoenix/products/RM-505 ) then you shouldn't need to select any files.

Mike.mp

03-07-2009, 09:32 AM

NSU worked just fine for me. I changed code with NSS and flashed with NSU srtaight away. No problems at all. I got my phone from Nokia shop in London.

Unplugged

03-07-2009, 09:40 AM

NSU worked just fine for me. I changed code with NSS and flashed with NSU srtaight away. No problems at all. I got my phone from Nokia shop in London.

The problem seems to be going from a branded uk variant to a non one. As yours is a generic uk model it should be fine.

MrAaronVenn

03-07-2009, 11:00 AM

Yes, I've done everything that everyone has suggested.
MY problem is it gets to Pooling then fails....
As I said on page 3...

"My ressurection goes fine until it gets to the "Pooling Phone" bit. The screen goes all LCD liney, then stops.
Then, JAF says something along the lines of:
"Did your phone turn back on, Yes No?"
when I click "No" cos it didn't back come back on, it just says "Done!" and finishes.
Though its not actually done, as the phone doesnt turn back on or do anything.

So I try it all again, but then click...YES
But when I click "Yes" JAF thinks for a while then says...
"Phone not found...
Second try...
MCUSW: (null)
APESW: (null)
VariantSW: (null)
Prodcode:
Setting test mode...
Failed! Aborting!
Done!"

It doesn't turn on or anything.
And JAF has finished.

I've done the files manually. The .ini file option is there
ie: N97 is listed. It looks for the folders
both Phoenix\Products\RM-505 and the other Nokia folder
I downloaded everything from Navifirm

Basically, I've done everything correctly just the minute it gets to
"POOLING" it doesn't work. Trying again makes no difference.

But don't worry I threw it at the Nokia Care people and told them to fix it.
If they can't, then no I won't throw it in the river as someone pleaded me not to, I will just smash it repeatedly with a mallet for wasting $1000 on it.

Unplugged

03-07-2009, 11:10 AM

grimmy58

03-07-2009, 12:52 PM

jmcgrath

03-07-2009, 01:08 PM

I used JAF to debrand it because I thought that NSS, which I have used on my N95's and N96's, didn't work on the N97.

I was also planning on not doing the update right away, but it was soooo buggy I felt that I had no choice. Then again I was not planning on getting an N97 until they had been out for at least 4 months so that there would have been 1 or 2 updates already out, but I hated my N96 so much that in the end I couldn't stand it.

I am amazed that I could re-flash it when it was in that condition as I recently had the same problem with a N96 and the local Nokia service center told me that they couldn't do it either. Yesterday was definitely a good day!

Unplugged

03-07-2009, 01:13 PM

I'm glad that most of you guys have now resurrected your phones, I must say that I panicked a bit and contacted Voda straight away. My new one has now arrived.

Does anyone know if using the latest version of NSS (which I used sucessfully to debrand my old N95 and N95 8GBs), instead of JAF causes less problems?

I do want the updated firmware, but I think I'll hang about a bit. I don't really fancy breaking my new one just to resurrect it, if that makes sense?

Makes no diffeence the issue seems to be with the firmware downloaded by NSU.

Whether NSU only downloads parts of the firmware needed for the upgrade and not the full flash im not sure. Not even sure if this was intentional by Nokia.

grimmy58

03-07-2009, 01:34 PM

jmcgrath - From my (limited) googling I understand that there is a new version NSS that works with S60 5th series. (please don't take my word for this, I don't want to be responsible for anyone's brick).

I just wondered if anyone had experience with the new version, but from what Unplugged says it is the fault of the NSU.

Is there any way to install it without using the NSU? possibly this Naviman software? Just a thought.

cheers,

Grim.

Unplugged

03-07-2009, 01:39 PM

NSS worked fine for me.

I used it as it actually seemed to "read" my product code as opposed to JAF which just read blank text boxes.

The result is the same product code is changed and then NSU kills it ( after saying its been successfully updated )

MrAaronVenn

04-07-2009, 07:10 AM

MCUSW: (null)
APESW: (null)
VariantSW: (null)

Can't be sure as it was 1am when I did mine but im sure mine had some files listed for this. If I recall rightly when I selected "Use Ini" and choose the correct handset all the MCU lights etc came on green.

did you untick the CRT-308 box?

I did untick the CRT-308 box as anytime you do it with it on it pops up saying
something like "No No, can't 308 it"

And when I did it manually, yeah each button was green, even the Ape Variant, all with their individual files.

It would only stop at Pooling as after that it wouldn't do anything else.

stashio

04-07-2009, 08:19 AM

Wow guys I had to register to say thanks for sharing the fix for this! I bricked my N97 (voda) on the 1st, the replacement arrives today. I was worried about trying it again but since reading this thread I'll be happy to give it another go :)

sjdean

04-07-2009, 10:08 AM

I've changed the product code on my N80 once before, to switch it from being I think at the time Orange branded and b**tardised with features taken out to a generic firmware.

So I kept it within the same country.

I would never change a product from one contient or country to another because for me, Im not sure if it is the case, but surely there is a possibility that different phones are built for different markets and therefore possibly slightly different hardware. Im thinking in terms of things such as the various cellular bands and frequencies.

So I'll wait for genuine UK firmware first.

Cya
Simon

gareth303

04-07-2009, 02:52 PM

Gents - I'd just like to thank you guys for putting this solution up on the forum. Worked like a dream and now I'm on the latest firmware. Felt like a proper hacker :cool:

Just one question though - if another firmware update comes along will I be OK using NSU? I'm on the Euro product code now as opposed to Vodafone.

Again many thanks for posting this solution :)

inzimam

04-07-2009, 07:06 PM

This is a great thread. Thanks everyone!

However, I have followed the instructions and got the update to work from Three UK firmware to the Euro 1 unbranded firmware. All seemed ok and reset the phone. However, it did not come with the Facebook/ Aquweather widgets?

Anyone else encountered this? Is there anyway to sort this out?

More imrportantly, do you think there is anything else missing, maybe something more important?

JamesRossell

04-07-2009, 09:53 PM

MrAaronVenn

05-07-2009, 08:25 AM

Hi Everyone,

I have read through this thread, as I too suffered exactly the same fate. Vodafone N97, NSS change product code, then bricked via Nokia update.

I am keen to follow the process to fix it with JAF, but i'm clearly missing something. Do you ALL own JAF, because when I download it it keeps on about a Pkey and stuff.

I really want to fix my n97, and quick. Please could someone help me with a bit more detail about not to get JAF working?

Cheers.

James

I think all you need is the Pkey Emulator thingo.
Are you using Vista?

JAF PKEY Emulator v4.0
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ANG6RHPQ

You need that JAF PKEY Emulator thing, install it and then Run As Administrator and then JAF just magically gets emulated by it.

JamesRossell

05-07-2009, 09:24 AM

Thanks for that, but that seemed to just be a trojan! :(

jimijam

05-07-2009, 10:43 AM

jimijam

05-07-2009, 10:47 AM

Thanks for that, but that seemed to just be a trojan! :(

Yes McAffee picked this up as a trojan for me too. Possibly it's just setting off some heuristic that's calling it that. AVG didn't flag it as one. I turned off the AV, used the thing, then did a full virus scan after and there was no sign of any virus.

At any rate I'd rather have a virus infected computer than a bricked phone ;) A computer can be format/reinstalled very easily.

JamesRossell

05-07-2009, 11:17 AM

Yes McAffee picked this up as a trojan for me too. Possibly it's just setting off some heuristic that's calling it that. AVG didn't flag it as one. I turned off the AV, used the thing, then did a full virus scan after and there was no sign of any virus.

At any rate I'd rather have a virus infected computer than a bricked phone ;) A computer can be format/reinstalled very easily.

Too True. I made the same decision!

JamesRossell

05-07-2009, 11:56 AM

:cool:
Hey Guys,

Just thought I would let you know that I managed to fix it!

OMG it was tricky, but following the instructions in this thread worked.

The hardest bit is turning the phone at the same time. Managed to add a bit of comedy to it, as I was getting soo annoyed i went to pull the battery just as it saw the phone and started flashing :o, so there i was HOLDING the battery against the contacts, whilst it re-flashed my already dead phone. LOL

Either way it worked so thanks again.

Now i've got to reset it all up again!

James :cool:

Degriz

05-07-2009, 03:15 PM

Just wanted to post thanks to all the people who have posted help here. Unbricked my n97 using jaf and a lot of swearing! Cheers!!

inzimam

05-07-2009, 09:49 PM

buxz777

05-07-2009, 10:48 PM

Seft

05-07-2009, 11:09 PM

Has anyone had any experiences with or read about doing the upgrade with a 3 branded handset?

MrAaronVenn

06-07-2009, 03:28 AM

If anyone's phone hangs/dies/whatever after the 'Pooling' stage, make sure you are using the new firmware - v11.

My bro's phone was v10, he used NSU to update to v11 - it appeared to work - till it restarted and was bricked. I followed the instructions to unbrick but used the v10 firmware (thought it would be safer) but that failed at the Pooling stage. Tried the v11 instead and it worked first go.

Needless to say he is a lucky bugger ;)

Also if you're having problems with JAF detecting your phone (i.e. you're pressing the Power button but it can't find the phone) - just keep trying!!! It will get there eventually - press it repeatedly. I was getting a success rate of about 1/20 after the first manual flash failed.

Good luck!

Ah, that v11 business may just be it.

I only downloaded v10 off NaviFirm, as I did the proper NSU update to v11 and that bricked it.

I was a bit scared to try and just over-install v11 onto it.

Once I get it back from the Nokia Care & Share Centre i'll know a bit more.
Such as whether or not they can be officially re-flashed by Nokia.

But if it is completely ruined, then I'll give it a go with the v11.

And then if that doesn't work, I'll hurl it at people from my balcony.

Fats

06-07-2009, 07:54 AM

Has anyone had any experiences with or read about doing the upgrade with a 3 branded handset?

Yes, my 3 handset bricked with NSU. Used JAF to flash it again and it's all fine now, up and running with v11.

grimmy58

06-07-2009, 08:11 AM

Hi guys, I've just received my replacement phone and now I'm not sure whether to attempt an update or not.

From what previous posters have said, it seems like the people that debranded and over-wrote the voda v.10 firmware with the nokia version and only then updated to V.11 were safe from bricking.

Is it still possible to do this?

Can I still get hold of the nokia v.10 firmware and install it somehow? Or because it has now been replaced by v.11 on the NSU is this impossible?

Any help appreciated.

cheers,

Grim.

291

06-07-2009, 01:18 PM

I debranded to v10 and was running this for a few days before proceeding to v11. Mine bricked.

users who have a v10 handset on voda and debranded to v10 were fine

its just voda users who are debranding v10 and updating to v11 at the same time

nifton

06-07-2009, 03:37 PM

seems to be the voda v10 firmware that is doing this to handsets

just debranded two n97s for friends uk sim free models , used jaf and nsu and worked fine

the other day i saw a voda bricked and read about many voda being bricked by nsu after p/c change to debrand

it seems that v10 voda firmware cant take the debrand and update at the same time and is causing the white screen off death that can only be saved by the jaf dead flash method posted here

users who have a v10 handset on voda and debranded to v10 were fine

its just voda users who are debranding v10 and updating to v11 at the same time

iam hoping that voda release a v11 soon and that this is changed in that firmware as it is very harsh to have messed up the v10 voda firmware that bad that a debrand can brick your device :o:o:o

Seems that way dude, but i did this, swaped p/codes to the """"162 UK non branded code from the voda p/code, unbranded the phone.
This step went fine, though i think it's important to note that even though phone was unbranded, several modules specific to a generic phone were missing (skype, GSM only mode and several other little things).

Today, trying to solve the vanishing phone memory thing, backed up my C: hard reset it (*#7370#) then tried to restore, this bricked my phone :( Seems that the Voda f/w has some serious holes in it relating to the locations of h/w (bus) you ask it to recognise this, and it fadges the phone.

I'll be trying the JAF method tonight, very anoyed as purposfully didn't change to the euro code and force the V11 patch to avoid this situation.

Degriz

06-07-2009, 07:03 PM

the jaf method worked for me although i did have to type in the paths to where I downloaded the firmware. Couldnt get the ini file thing to work. Also dont give up if jaf dosnt see your fone for the 1st half hour, timing the power on is a nightmare

grimmy58

06-07-2009, 07:20 PM

nifton

06-07-2009, 10:06 PM

nailed it, getting all the bits for it was the hardest, picked it up to flash at my first attempt :)

redmistmagpie

06-07-2009, 11:52 PM

ok guys so some of you have it, my uk 3 n97 tried to change to euro code as just know 3 are never going to post firmware upgrades from nokia, has shown the same symptons. If connected to the usb port of the pc it continually recycles. Very briefly sometimes it asks for a nokia usb rom driver, have any of you seen this as part of your fixing? I seem to have jaf all setup just have spent the last 1.5 hours trying to get the timing right to power on, oh what fun. Do you think I have an issue with this driver error? Thanks

redmistmagpie

07-07-2009, 12:16 AM

fixed myself needed to install bb5 drivers from this post
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-531845.html
i have never installed pcsuite on this pc and therefore the correct drivers for windows to see the phone was the issue for jaf
sailed through flashing got to pooling, had to pull the battery twice to get it to boot succesfully but now going
now to see if the new firmware was worth all this hassle, roll on the next one!!!

MrAaronVenn

07-07-2009, 07:50 AM

May I just thank each and everyone of you for all your help.

Yes, my N97 is back up and running.

Thanks to the guy who told me how to manually put the files into Jaf.

Thanks more to the guy that said I should be uploading v11 which stopped that silly Pooling Issue.

But, No Thanks to the Nokia Care & Share Centre.

You see, I popped it in there, thinking it was the right thing to do.
I should have caught on when everyone was oohing and aahing at it.
One staff saying "Oh, i havent seen one of these yet"
...Um, you're Nokia. you make them.

But anyway, because my N97 was from Hong Kong, they were very confused
and unable to help me.

Giving it another go, with free v11 advice and everyones help from here, i'm now enjoying my slide up keyboard yet again.

I love you All About Symbian forum people.

Thanks heaps,
Aaron

sneakybear

07-07-2009, 11:41 AM

Thanks guys - finally got it to work. Power on at the right time wasn't too hard as I cycled the battery BUT didn't have Nokia PC suite installed before hand as was on another pc... d'oh

This means that the USB init section never completed and I received an error - once I'd installed Nokia PC suite the usb drivers were there and although I received another error (couldn't back up CRT?) the process continued correctly.

Overview of the process:

Install Nokia PC Suite
Install JAF v 62
Get JAF v64 ini files and copy them to the JAF folder in prog files
Install the PK emulator
Run the PK emulator to start JAF 62 (with ini support)
make the changes to the phone code
update the phone with NSU
get the new firmware using NAVIFIRM
copy the firmware files to the specific RM-505 folder
run the PK emulator to start Jaf again
make the setting choices as per the forum threads
Put the battery in just before the start phone message
Get the message
Press the on key

watch in amazement as it works!

Genius guys - thanks a bunch. EURO firmware all ok AND all the widgets as I checked the normal and factory setting boxes.

grimmy58

07-07-2009, 12:14 PM

Hi guys, I'm glad it looks like loads of people are getting this fix to work now.

I had a Vodafone branded N97 which had Facebook, Accuweather and BBC Iplayer installed as standard, does anyone know where I can download these applications?

cheers in advance,

Grim

Unplugged

07-07-2009, 02:18 PM

Their are instructions for flashing a non-dead phone on the same site along with instructions for changing the PKEY as well.

Has anyone actually tried doing this rather than bricking it first?

nifton

07-07-2009, 03:28 PM

Their are instructions for flashing a non-dead phone on the same site along with instructions for changing the PKEY as well.

Has anyone actually tried doing this rather than bricking it first?

I'm going to try this eve, even though I fixed my N97 last night, i'd already blagged a fresh one off voda (free battery and accesories) which came today, so, will be trying a straight up flash with an auto matic p/code overwrite.

Just one thing though, last night when I was trialing various combinations, I couldnlt get a straight flash from a good setup to work, as instructed in the GSM forum guide.

I could only flash 'from dead' IE turning phone off, and powering on when requested.

jmcgrath

07-07-2009, 03:44 PM

I have also had problems getting it to re-flash my phone. When it was bricked it worked great, but not when I wanted to re-flash so that I could try and get accuweather and my music player working again.

I'll look forward to seeing how you get on Nifton.

John

nifton

07-07-2009, 07:46 PM

John mate, whatever you do, if you have upgraded to V11 DO NOT try and downgrade to vodas v10. You can always side-step a revision, but never go backwards, you'll brick it forever if you do.

Unplugged

07-07-2009, 07:53 PM

Cool let us know how you get on.

My N97 developed a screen crack so work are sending it back as "Intermitant Screen Fault" :rolleyes:

New one comes tommorow.

OptX

07-07-2009, 10:37 PM

Hi @ll
I have a N97 now too and it is branded with o2. I hope there is soon a solution to get that debrand done without the brick ^^

edit : I could not resist to change the product code and baamm ! Brick .... followed everything and im up again (debranded).
Whats funny about this : I have lost some widgets :(
How to get them back ?

ironass

09-07-2009, 09:39 AM

Unplugged

09-07-2009, 11:14 AM

Apart from the obvious advantage of instant firmware updates, is there any difference between the generic firmware and Vodafone's firmware, apps etc; as there seems to be very little branding on Vodafone?

At the moment no. However that may change. Its more the frightening amount of first release firmware bugs that I was concerned in getting rid off. You just know its going to take vodafone 50 million years to release a update.

The ones I noticed were that they disabled the settings wizard so your phone doesn't auto configure if you place another providers sim in ( this irritated me greatly as I had to go and find t-bags settings )

No doubt everything on the phone that Nokia adds for VOIP has been or will be disabled in future firmware updates. they tend to hide things like Manual Network selection and Locking the phone to 3G although without a branded phone I cant verify they have on the N97. Not noticed any others apart from the bootup screen and "MyWeb" (browser renames annoy me to hell)

however vodafone tend to put little "gotchas" in their firmware the most famous I can think of was disabling the ability to use MP3s as ringtones on the 6630 when all theirs just 'happened' to be in M4A format. They said it was some c*** to do with copyright but its pretty obvious it was because every ringtone site was selling them in MP3.

nifton

10-07-2009, 08:50 AM

Apart from the obvious advantage of instant firmware updates, is there any difference between the generic firmware and Vodafone's firmware, apps etc; as there seems to be very little branding on Vodafone?

I think the fact that it's hardly branded should make us more warey than ever, if they're trying not to draw attention to the fact they have bastardised the f/w, then what the hell have they done to it?!?

Unplugged

10-07-2009, 10:06 AM

Anybody just tried the "Dead Phone" procedure yet but on a live phone?

By this I mean just taking the battery out and sticking it in when requested thus avoiding bricking the phone and telling Nokia you have changed the Product Code?

I think the fact that it's hardly branded should make us more warey than ever, if they're trying not to draw attention to the fact they have bastardised the f/w, then what the hell have they done to it?!?

Some networks don't do much to their phones at all. I don't mind light UI customisations I can turn off and start-up screens etc what irritates me is having to wait 3 or 4 months for firmware updates and networks which disable stuff.

jmcgrath

10-07-2009, 11:32 AM

OptX - I also lost several widgets and I have tried re-installing the FW and they don't seem to come back.

We'll have to wait until they can be downloaded from the Ovi Store I guess.

John

Seft

10-07-2009, 12:13 PM

Unplugged

10-07-2009, 01:43 PM

Nope well none that don't involve physical damage :p

It wouldn't surprise me if you could just flash a live phone by pretending it was dead.

vishal.dh

11-07-2009, 09:50 AM

hey, was just wondering, everyone seems to have bricked the phone when using NSU, has anyone tried doing the update over the air instead? i need to debrand mine in order to get spanish on to it (for some reason the vodafone uk version only has english, french and dutch :S) but i don't like the idea of bricking and bringing back to life. also, would i be able to get accuweather and facebook widgets back?

the_jackel

11-07-2009, 09:19 PM

Bugger - upgraded to T-Mobile on Tuesday!!

Oh well, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait - I love upgrading my phone (amazing leaps and bounds appeared on the N95 after owning it from release) but can't say I'd want to risk kiilling it to do so!!

Just as a point of interest - How do you know what is branded and where? The N97 I received from Tmobile is unlocked and has no Tmobile branding on it or in the software?

I received an N97 today from T-mobile (upgrade) and it was t-mobile branded v10. Tried to change product code and updated to v11 and the usual white screen like everyone else on this thread. But back to life following the instructions using JAF and Navifirm :icon14:

jamessmith01

12-07-2009, 08:42 PM

I cannot run JAF on my Vista computer - I keep getting an error "Can't load WinSCard.dll" - any ideas? I've tried several different installations, and version of the emulator. Also tried setting all .exe files to WinXP SP2 compatibility mode.

LJS

12-07-2009, 09:19 PM

I used version 3 of the emulator. I also had to set the main executable for jaf to run as administrator. Then run the v3 emulator as administrator too and shouldn't get the dll error.

jamessmith01

12-07-2009, 11:56 PM

Okay I got JAF running - so how can I get it to recognise the phone?!

nifton

13-07-2009, 08:55 AM

OK Guys, on my third N97, the second one had no return spring in the slider, the backlight kept going off, and it rattled. Sent it back, they took three days to deliver it, and this one, rattles like a childs toy. Couldn't be bothered getting a 4th, they have now refunded me the cost of the phone.

Anyway, good news!

I flashed from Voda V10 UK code to Euro V11 using jaf, dead phone method on an untouched handset, with the update prod code enabled.

All apps install and run, uninstall without error. hard resets and backup/restores no longer brick the handset.

Most of the crappy lag and run time errors have been addressed, mine hasn't frozen or rebooted since running V11. I'd say its worth taking the plunge for.

forest76

13-07-2009, 06:02 PM

nifton

13-07-2009, 06:14 PM

Nifton, thanks for checking. However what do you mean by dead phone method?
I thought you would go from a 'untochted' phone, without using NSU?.
I am about to flash, but still wondering which JAF tickboxes to tick.
I aim for Manual Flash, factory setting and normal mode.

Which one did you do?

Thanks!:icon14:

Hiya Forest,

I can only assume you're from nottingham, it's only natural you won't get this first time ;)

You need to flash it as if it was dead, select all the options as instructed, just turn your phone off, remove the bat, then plug it all back in when you have pressed 'flash' but not before you 'ok' the warning message.

If you can get it working using the standard method you're a better man than I. All i get is a reboot of the device, then it just sits there for as long as you care to leave it.

Damaged

13-07-2009, 06:18 PM

hi ppl
ive followed the guide to bring my N97 back to life
but when i run the emulator i get loads of errors
please could someone help me or guide me in simple terms
thx Chris

DJ-1

13-07-2009, 06:22 PM

Hi, i got an n97 (Black rm-505) UK Vodafone Branded handset.
i got a few questions before i willing to do anything

is there any differences between the black/white fones softwarewise ?

at the moment i`m on v10 fw, is there any huge differences between the eventual voda v11 fw and the v11 `Generic`one you lot get quicker by changing the codes ?

what i`ve got done so far is
1: change the wincard.dll from safe mode in the c/windows/sys32 folder

2: got `JAF 1.98.62` installed and `JAF 1.98.64`s .ini files into the ODEON/JAF folder

3: i got `OGM_JAF_PKEY_Emulator_v3` and v5.... wich one to use ?

4: bb5 Drivers i have got but NOT installed any because i dont know wich ones to use

5: I have `Ovi suite installed`

6: I also hve Navifirm v0.1 and downloaded ALL 7 files to a temp folder relating to an`N97/ RM-505/ V11.0.21/ UK CV B V2 (0585162)

I`m using Win XP home 32bit OS

all i get so far is 1st i run the `OGM_JAF_PKEY_Emulator_v3` then run `JAF 1.98.62`... i hit GO, then it says `error- BOX DRIVER NOT INSTALLED`, I tried V5 emu aswell, but SAME result
it says i have `USB Cable Driver version: 7.1.17.0` is this one ok ?

sorry for the long post but its normally better to giv lots of info otherwise ppl dont know my situation,
thanks.

forest76

13-07-2009, 07:30 PM

Thanks Nifton :) Actually Amsterdam, netherlands!
But the trick worked! I did get the first standard message that it could not downgrade.
After that
Reading IMEI...
Failed! Aborting!
Failed to backup CRT...

and a popup that it failed to backup IMEI or something. After clicking that away I pushed in the battery and switched it on. and it worked :)

Now reinstalling my settings :)

Thanks!!

forest76

13-07-2009, 07:30 PM

Zyyb

13-07-2009, 09:00 PM

I officially love you all, my phone is alive :-D

nifton

13-07-2009, 09:19 PM

Forest,

Untick the CRT-308 option under 'use.ini' ;) glad it worked buddy! when you see the gay couple holdingn hands to that little tune when your phone comes back to life, it's like taking the biggest crap you've ever had its such a relief :D

DJ-1

13-07-2009, 10:13 PM

Hi, i now got `Nemesis Service Suite v10.38.14` when i installed it what option do i use, i think there`s about 5 different install option, F1, Multi purpose, and a couple of others, does it matter wich one i install ?, and summut about a driver to change at the end ?

also is the Ovi suite ok for this as lot of other ppl mention using Nokia pc Suite, i would have thought they were the same thing, just checking...
thanks.

Edit: i attatched a .word file with the avaliable BB5 drivers i have got, but dont know wich to intall, theres i pic in the .word file of the option i have

DJ-1

13-07-2009, 10:46 PM

i`m looking for the Pheonix sofware at the moment so i got a variety of stuff at my disposal

from the experiences of other ppl on here what is the best/easiest/safest way of doing it, ?..... someone early in pg 8 i think it was were saying about after changing code, updating to v11 with a fone that is still alive and puttin in the battery part way through, or is it best to brick it?

also wich is best for changing product key?, nemesis or JAF ?, some say nemesis doesnt always do the trick?

thanks.

vishal.dh

15-07-2009, 11:29 AM

gaja

15-07-2009, 05:08 PM

I bricked two n97 phones (vodafone branded):frown::mad:, now I got 3rd one Im not going to change product code.:con?

nifton

15-07-2009, 05:33 PM

now that vodafone v11 firmware is out, has anyone tried going from vodafone v11 to euro v11 without bricking? i.e. changing product code and simply reinstalling firmware using NSU.

would be good to know :)

No, but I went from VodaV10 to Euro V11 without bricking it.

I also went from VodaV10 to UKV10. So if you're asking if a 'sidestep' is possible, yes it is. But i'd be careful not to rely on any backups you take after you do it.

Lasikie

15-07-2009, 07:12 PM

I'm getting a little confused here.

Anyone willing to write a guide from scratch?

I'm stuck on V10 on my 3 branded black N97 0586308

I haven't attempted to update yet as I've been trying to read up, I just can't seem to grasp which order to follow.

Dknow75

15-07-2009, 11:13 PM

Hi guys,

I bricked my N97-1 (RM-505 code: 0576128) when I was trying to update the Firmware using Nokia Software. It doesn't work at all.

I followed all the steps on the tutorial of this forum and in every try it gets an error (log bellow).
I first tried with an Euro Firmware v11 then I tried the Emerging Asia V11. I also tried with Euro V10 with same error but the status bar showed it progressed more than the previous ones.

It is interesting to note that in some point it erase CMT but latter it can't write it. Also, the v10 has more files than v11. They are not used in this process?

Does anybody has any clue of the origins of the errors?

Bellow is the JAF log of one try:

JAF version 1.98.62
Detected PKEY: 9000AAEB
Card life counter: 99.99%
P-key nokia module version 01.02
FBUS INTERFACE NOT CONNECTED!!!
USB Cable Driver version: 7.1.16.0
Changing mode...Done!
FILES SET FOR FLASHING:
MCU Flash file: NONE
PPM Flash file: NONE
CNT Flash file: NONE
APE Variant file: NONE
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\

Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
Scanning ini files...
Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Checking path: E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
FILES SET FOR FLASHING:
MCU Flash file: E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.core.C00
PPM Flash file: E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.rofs2.V20
CNT Flash file: E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx
APE Variant file: E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM505_507_11.0.021_uda1_001.uda.fpsx
Languages in ppm: English,Filipino,Bah Indonisia,Bah Malasia
Detected P-KEY: 9000AAEB
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Init usb communication...
PRESS POWER ON NOW!
Searching for phone...Found
Sending RAW loader...
Using 009.008.003
Elf2flash 09.11.000
CMT RAW loader...
Patching RAW boot step1...
Patching RAW boot step2...
Patching RAW boot step3...
Sending RAW Loader...
....................Loader Sent!
Stage 2 starting................PUBKEYS already sent...
PUBKEYS already sent...
PUBKEYS already sent...
PUBKEYS already sent...
..........Phone prepared OK!
Waiting for the phone to boot...
Searching for phone...
Status byte: 8000
Selecting CMT flash...
Result: 0000
Phone is in flash mode...
CMT blocks: 573, APE blocks: 0
Erasing cmt...
Processing E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.core.C00...
Erasing cmt zone 00040000 - 00082FFF ... Erase result: 0000
Erasing cmt zone 00083400 - 003FFFFF ... Erase result: 0000
Erasing cmt zone 00800000 - 00D5FFFF ... Erase result: 0000
Erasing cmt zone 00D60000 - 0AB9FFFF ... Erase result: 0000
Partition result: 0014
Processing E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.rofs2.V20...
Erasing cmt zone 06EA0000 - 09C9FFFF ... Erase result: 0000
Processing E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx...
Erasing cmt zone 09CA0000 - 0AB9FFFF ... Erase result: 0000
Processing E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM505_507_11.0.021_uda1_001.uda.fpsx...
Erasing cmt zone 0ABA0000 - 0F71FFFF ... Erase result: 0000
Send CMT CFG...

Writing cmt...
Processing E:\Arquivos de programas\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.core.C00...
Sending CMT HASH for ADA
Sending CMT HASH for KEYS
Sending CMT HASH for PRIMAPP
Sending CMT HASH for RAP3NAND
Sending CMT HASH for PASUBTOC
cmt->PAPUB_CERTIFICATE_DATA_BB5 block detected
cmt->PAPUB_CERTIFICATE_DATA_BB5 block detected, sending...
cmt->PAPUB keys already sent...
cmt->PAPUB keys already sent...
cmt->PAPUB keys already sent...
Sending CMT HASH for SOS*UPDAPP
Sending CMT HASH for SOS*DSP0
Sending CMT HASH for SOS*ISASW
Sending CMT HASH for SOS+CORE
Sending CMT HASH for SOS+ROFS1
Error sending cmd data...
Error sending cmd data...
Error writing cmt...

Regards.

vishal.dh

16-07-2009, 12:06 AM

No, but I went from VodaV10 to Euro V11 without bricking it.

I also went from VodaV10 to UKV10. So if you're asking if a 'sidestep' is possible, yes it is. But i'd be careful not to rely on any backups you take after you do it.

so you're saying, if i manually back up my files, change product code, use NSU to "sidestep" to euro v11, then manually restore my files, it should work without the whole bricking and bringing back to life process? is that what you did when going from vodafone v10 to uk v10?

thanks

Unplugged

16-07-2009, 08:15 AM

so you're saying, if i manually back up my files, change product code, use NSU to "sidestep" to euro v11, then manually restore my files, it should work without the whole bricking and bringing back to life process? is that what you did when going from vodafone v10 to uk v10?

thanks

No

It will brick. Or at least in my experience of tthree N97s and pretty much most people in this thread.

Now that Vodafone have released v11 (apparently) it may be possible to use NSU to upgrade to v11 and then change the product code to de-brand to Euro v11. People were doing this with 10 however it was noticed their was still a lot missing from the firmware (apps, menus etc) so clearly the FULL flash is not downloaded to save Nokia Bandwidth which is possibly where all these bricking issues are coming from.

Chances are at some point if you want a full de branded phone with no upgrading issues at a later date you will need to carry out the JAF procedure to get the full euro firmware on with all the correct modules. Otherwise this problem may well continue at a later date.

OptX

17-07-2009, 12:42 AM

OptX - I also lost several widgets and I have tried re-installing the FW and they don't seem to come back.

We'll have to wait until they can be downloaded from the Ovi Store I guess.

John

The new Phoenix 2009 works perfect ^^ I flashed my non-bricked N97 with it and everything was back on. (AccuWeather and all the other stuff i was loosing)

raysn97

17-07-2009, 01:20 AM

Hi all sorry if ive put this in wrong place im so tired ive bricked my lovely n97 i need to know how people are unbricking/fixing it

Things i need
1. Software List of what is required
2. Step Guide on how to do it
3. Gotchas list things to be aware when doing it

Im techie but from what ive seen the instructions are no too clear i would appreciate someone help in getting my symbian phone up again

i have windows xp sp3 please someone help :(

oh my N97 is voda uk

raysn97

17-07-2009, 11:55 AM

Hi all ive unbricked my n97 (boy was my uk vodaphone n97 dead) didnt use the the Jaf method that sucked bigtime used phoneix and its cost me 7euro to do it as had to DL big files theres also a few gotchas that you need to aware when doing this took me couple of try's but im done so happy and a big thanks to my german mate Alex from youtube he was kind enough to help me out...

edie209

18-07-2009, 11:19 AM

Hi all I have been following this post for a while now but must admit it gets a little confusing wading through all the pages.

I have a N97 on the 3 network that is NOT bricked

but I wanted to use firmware 11 and subsequent new versions as they become available, like most of you all here.

Well I found this blog

http://n97debranding.blogspot.com/

I tried it and it works I now have a debranded N97 without turning it into a brick in the process.

rdcinhou

18-07-2009, 11:31 AM

ironass

18-07-2009, 11:59 AM

Well said rdcinhou!

There are now 9 pages to read through on this subject.

Surely someone out there could post a stickie with the definitive guide for dummies on best way to debrand the N97. Please!

edie209

18-07-2009, 12:04 PM

Suggestion: will one or two of you "97th Degree Master Masons" out there distill the wisdom in this thread down to a single new thread post which can then be put as a "sticky" on the top of this sub-forum?

Reading the latest posts in this thread in the early morning hours before I've finished my first cup of coffee I was wondering what to build with all these bricks? A building? A wall? A monument?

This is the blog I refer to above and it works

1) Check your version on your phone by pressing *#0000#
You will see your current softwareversion (currently probably 10.something and that's why you are on this page). The model probably is N97 and the type RM-505.

It is also important you have already installed the OVI-suite.

2) download the new firmware via Navifirm here

Run it (start-up takes a while, it retrieves data from the internet) and select the version that you want to download. Make sure that you know which firmware you want to download.
A list of all the product codes (and the ones which are already updated can be obtained here)

3) Store the files that you have downloaded in following folder:
C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505

where RM-505 is equal to the code that you retrieved in step 1

You now have possession of the part that you need to upload to your phone!

To be able to flash this on your phone you need toinstall and get J(ust) A(nother) F(lasher) working

Download JAF version 1.92.62 here, and in order to get it working download OMG JAF PKEY Emulator v5: here

version 1.92.62 does not know the N97, so 1.92.64 can be downloaded. You don't need the .exe file just the .ini files. So download JAF version 1.92.64 here and only put the .ini files in the directory where you installed version 1.92.62

When this is done, open OMG JAP PKEY Emulator v5. After pressing go without changing any setting you should get JAF running.

You first get an error message that Box drivers are not installed. This is OK as you don't have a box. If you get a query regarding installing new drivers keep the ones you currently have (those you got when installing the OVI suite and they are perfect)

Press BB5, now we need to tell the programm where to get the new flash files.

First select: dead USB (even if your phone is still working)
Manual flash , factory set and normal mode.

If your phone is still working you can press .ini when it's connected. It will automatically know where your You can do this by connecting your phone and press: use ini, or when it's dead press the buttons MCU , PPM,CNT and APE one by one.

You should point them to your directory

MCU Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.core.C00
PPM Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_prd.rofs2.V01
CNT Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_11.0.021_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx
APE Variant file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM505_507_11.0.021_uda1_001.u da.fpsx

Also make sure you click the option: Change also product code and uncheck CRT 308.
Now make sure your phone is switched off and battery is in! Now take out the USB CABLE untill the program tells you to switch on your phone after you pressed FLASH.

When you press flash you first get an warning message to tell you you shoud never downgrade, when you click that away you should connect your USB LEAD TO YOUR phone.

Flashing will start and your phone will be on the new software!!

Dknow75

18-07-2009, 12:23 PM

Differently of most people here I didn't get my phone recovered yet.
In every try, the JAF software shown the same error message (see the complete log on the post of 15-07-2009 11:13 PM):

Sending CMT HASH for SOS+ROFS1
Error sending cmd data...
Error sending cmd data...
Error writing cmt...

I've been monitoring three forums to find a solution. Also, I've been trying with different firmwares and OMG JAP PKEY Emulators in the last nights without success.

Does anybody here faced the same problem?
I found on the internet some hardwares ("boxes") for N97 unlock / recovery. Do this stuffs work?

Thanks.

ironass

18-07-2009, 01:18 PM

edie209

18-07-2009, 03:55 PM

romitchell

18-07-2009, 05:39 PM

ironass

18-07-2009, 05:48 PM

Tried to follow that blog but got as far as trying to download JAF version 1.92.64 and the link given is invalid!

I just googled JAF 1.92.64 and had no problems finding a download, I have the ini files needed if you would like me to email them.

Might be a good idea to post the link on here so that other people can share it. :icon14:

EDIT.

Actually, after quite a few broken links, I've found a download here:-

http://rapidshare.com/files/253434472/Complete_JAF_1.98.64_Virtual_PKEY_V2.exe

cegevara

18-07-2009, 06:10 PM

@ edie209 and all

My N 97 was dead after firmare update.
I saw Your post about JAF and flashing...I try all,but I can't flash!
I had problem with cable driver 7.0.2.0 and now I install 6.85.10.0 .
When pop up start screen off JAf I checked bb5 and next "manual flash,dead usb,normal,factory set. In the screen under have message "JAF version 1.98.64
Detected PKEY: 90009AB2
Card life counter: 99.99%
P-key nokia module version 01.02
FBUS INTERFACE NOT CONNECTED!!!
USB Cable Driver version: 6.83.9.0
Changing mode...Done!"

Next- I uncheck CRT and check "use ini" and in new screen I check firmware version for N97.Next- I check "change product code " and after that I press "FLASH"

Then out in the bottom of the screen 2 variations, the first time to do half of the process and to print the phone "rebooted but not in flash mode...", a second variant that is not find phone even though the pressure of a button to start...
What is error???
Please help me!!!

Dknow75

21-07-2009, 12:32 AM

cegevara,

I didn't get my phone working yet but I think I know what is happening in the second variant you described. In my opinion, the phone is not recognized by Windows at the same time you are trying to flash it.

With my phone, I saw it enters in a pattern of been detected by Windows for 2-3 seconds then stay a long time (30-75 seconds) not recognized before been detected again and the pattern repeats.

Try to see if this is happening to your phone. To do that, I suggest you let your phone for a while without battery and disconnected of the PC. Then open the Windows Device Manager first and, after that, try to connect it. Your phone should appears as a Wireless device at the end of the list and disapears entering on the pattern above.

If this is happening, you have to follow the last instructions of the tutorial (see the message of edie209 of 18-07-2009 12:04 PM) with care. In this part, you have the JAF message about the risks of downgrade, your phone connect on the PC via the USB cable and the battery off the phone. Almost the same time you click to go anyway on the JAF message you have to insert the battery on your phone.

In most of times, this procedure starts the pattern making the phone detected by the PC. The goal of this is to achieve a syncronism between the time frame of 2-3 seconds of the phone been detected by windows and the begining of JAF Flash process.

If you let the Windows Device Manager open all time you could see all this happening and tune the syncronism.

I didn't know how to help you on the first variation. But, I strongly suggest you to have the same drivers and software versions used on the tutorials because this could be the cause of the problem.

Good look.

edie209

21-07-2009, 12:22 PM

Just a quick note

I didn't remove my battery for the process I unplugged the usb lead and had my phone switched off. when requested I connected the usb to the phone and the JAF software took control the whole process then took about 8 seconds to complete. I then disconnected the usb lead and rebooted the phone and everthing was fine.

Make sure you have everthing set as in the tutorial, I got errors when I didn't do the above.

easily_tempted

21-07-2009, 12:54 PM

Hi Guy and girls, I wish I could even get up to opening jaf. I have done everything up to pressing go and this is what jaf pkey v5 ays

Checking Windows version ...
Windows version: Microsoft Windows Vista 32-bit
Searching for JAF install location ...
JAF.EXE find in: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\
Enable SafeDllSearchMode ...
Saved winscard.dll to: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\Flash\winscard.dll
Saved original.dll to: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\Flash\original.dll
Starting JCOP emulator ...
JAF.EXE find in: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\
Saved JCOP.EXE to: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\JCOP.EXE
JCOP emulator started succesfull on port 8050
Powering JCOP simulator ...
ERROR: JCSIMU_open_socket connect socket: 10061
ERROR: JCSIMU_reset_card initialize
ERROR: Cannot get ATR from JCOP simulator!

I even tried version 4 and this

Checking Windows version ...
Windows version: Microsoft Windows Vista 32-bit
Searching for JAF install location ...
Saved winscard.dll to: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\winscard.dll
Saved original.dll to: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\original.dll
Starting JCOP emulator ...
Saved JCOP.EXE to: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\JCOP.EXE
JCOP emulator started succesfull on port 8050
Powering JCOP simulator ...
ERROR: JCSIMU_open_socket connect socket: 10061
ERROR: JCSIMU_reset_card initialize
ERROR: Cannot get ATR from JCOP simulator!

I've run it under administrator and nothing can someone help, or has anyone else had this error. Thanks

Dknow75

21-07-2009, 09:28 PM

easily_tempted,

I read in some places that people are facing problems to run JAF on windows vista. Most successful cases I've read was on windows xp.

edie209,

I had to remove the battery because my phone doesn't power on. In fact, it doesn't give any sign of life already. An exception is after the first reboot on JAF (just after the 'PUBKEYS already sent' messages) when the screen turns white. But then JAF shows the 'error writing cmt...' message and the phone stays bricked.

The syncronism issue I described before can be a specific problem of my bricked phone. But, in my opinion, this is something to aware and to verify when you get messages of phone not found.

Good look.

pitsyapa

21-07-2009, 10:07 PM

Hi
Thanks everyone for the detailed instruction. I followed instructions given in this forum. I had a 3 branded UK handset with (not dead, working already fine) , which I debranded without any problems whatsoever, using JAF. Firstly I flashed with the same version 10 and it was fine. then today i used nsu to update it version 11 which is latest.
thanks again for providing detailed information.

easily_tempted

21-07-2009, 10:27 PM

wadisnake

22-07-2009, 10:48 AM

Hi all,

It looks like changing the product code this way won't brick your phone :

updating to voda firm v11 using NSU
changing product code to euro code
updating to the new firm using NSU

I have a voda UK N97, someone can confirm ??

Thanks in advance.

jamessmith01

22-07-2009, 10:52 AM

[QUOTE=Dknow75;429437]easily_tempted,

I read in some places that people are facing problems to run JAF on windows vista. Most successful cases I've read was on windows xp.

Cheers

I've given up now, but I'm sure there must be able to do it on vista.

Make sure the 'smartcard' Windows service is running.
Did you make sure not to block the software with your firewall?
Is Windows DEP enabled? If so, disable it.

If you can't get it to work with the PKEY emulator, try "virtual pkey". I used that and it worked fine for me on Vista.

romitchell

22-07-2009, 05:26 PM

Have asked the same question myself, no one seems to have done it. I strongly suspect it'll work fine.

If you find out let us know! Might be worth making a new thread, seems to get lost in here.

Hi all,

It looks like changing the product code this way won't brick your phone :

updating to voda firm v11 using NSU
changing product code to euro code
updating to the new firm using NSU

I have a voda UK N97, someone can confirm ??

Thanks in advance.

jamessmith01

22-07-2009, 05:31 PM

Well flashing to update to v11 with JAF works. And you can use NSU afterwards if you like.

wadisnake

22-07-2009, 06:01 PM

Have asked the same question myself, no one seems to have done it. I strongly suspect it'll work fine.

If you find out let us know! Might be worth making a new thread, seems to get lost in here.

Yes, it'll be a good idea to create a new topic only for changing the UK Voda product code. It looks like the brick problem is only happening with operator from UK ?

Anyway, do you want to create the topic ? I can help you to keep it updated, thanks

romitchell

23-07-2009, 08:39 PM

Yes, it'll be a good idea to create a new topic only for changing the UK Voda product code. It looks like the brick problem is only happening with operator from UK ?

Anyway, do you want to create the topic ? I can help you to keep it updated, thanks

Feel free to do it, I wont be.

wadisnake

23-07-2009, 09:17 PM

ok, I'll create the topic tonigh.

For your information, I updated my N97 to V11 yesterday (VF firm).

jamesworts

25-07-2009, 04:22 PM

Hi all,

I debranded my t-mobile v10 n97 and upon rebooting all it did was cycle on and off with a white screen.

Now after following guides i was told to use jaf or phoenix to re-flash it.

I have spent hours trying to do this.

This info is wrong, all i had to do was hard format it. now that was easier said than done.

After a while searching through forums, i found the solution.

Open the phone to reveal qwerty keyboard and hold left shift, spacebar and backspace, then press and hold power button. this will bring up the white screen and then NOKIA let go of the buttons and wait for it to reboot, this has solved my problem!

wadisnake

26-07-2009, 08:45 AM

ah, that's good to hear.

thanks !

simongie

29-07-2009, 09:12 AM

Hello all

Thanks for saving my butt! My phone is up and running again.
The only reason I upgraded the firmware was to see if it sorted out my signal strength issues, which it hasnt.
I've gotten hold of Nokia, and they want me to bring the phone in. My issue is this. Previously the phone was a T-Mobile UK branded N97 with FW v10. It is now a Euro QW1 FW v11. It obviously has a different product code to that shown under the battery, so I want to change it back.

Can I use the previous methods to roll back the firmware to v10 and set the product code back to the original?
Or will Nokia go ahead and repair the phone anyway, as it was giving trouble before the upgrade anyway?.

tazzy76

03-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Hi Guys,

I noticed a few of you are on T-Mobile UK. Can I just ask do you use the Euro code or the UK code? I can't decide between the RM-505_EMEA_EURO_QW1 Black (0570817) code or the N97 UK CV B (0585162) code? My current code is 0587665.

Also I'm a bit nervous so what is the best method to for a total NOOB like me to use for those who went from similar route as above? Sorry for sounding like a whiner but I love this phone and obviously my bollocks are being tested :D

Cheers,

Taz

andonevris

03-08-2009, 12:18 PM

Hi Guys,

I noticed a few of you are on T-Mobile UK. Can I just ask do you use the Euro code or the UK code? I can't decide between the RM-505_EMEA_EURO_QW1 Black (0570817) code or the N97 UK CV B (0585162) code? My current code is 0587665.

I'm on T-Mobile UK and went to euro code (0570817) with no problems. I used the JAF method as detailed here

http://n97debranding.blogspot.com/

The only problem I encountered was that my firmware update files (the ones downloaded using navifirm) weren't being found automatically by JAF even though I'd updated the .ini files as stated in the tutorial.

In this case you have 2 options, input them manually into JAF (which I found a bit buggy and had to manually paste the file path in) or move the products folder from nokia\phoenix into the root of the c: drive. For some reason for me JAF was looking in the root of c: for the files and not in nokia\phoenix\products as stated in the tutorial.

After that it was plain sailing. As stated by others the hardest bit is trying to plug the phone in and turn it on at just the right time for JAF to work its magic. I kept getting "phone not found" errors or "phone responded but not in flash mode"

Just keep trying and you'll get it eventually.

Accuweather and Facebook widgets were missing after the upgrade, I downloaded accuweather from the ovi store, I'd imagine the facebook one is there too, can't say for sure as I don't do wastebook myself.

Good Luck

Unplugged

03-08-2009, 12:40 PM

That's interesting because I didnt loose my Failbook widget and used the "Use Ini" option (also t-mobile)

I wonder if something goes astray if you port the files in manually. Not that I rearlly care the Facebook widget is slow and is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. I scrapped it and went back to the mobile site.

dsn7287

13-08-2009, 07:40 PM

As my title says and also like jamesworts (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showpost.php?p=430082&postcount=151) says its as simple as upgrading the firmware and then when is phone is OFF:

1. Open the n97 up.
2. Hold the Left Shift + Space Bar + Backspace down.
3. While holding the buttons down turn on the power and continue to hold them down till the Nokia screen comes up.
4. Thats it! Phone will start like normal after that!

Fantastic!

NOTE THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR PHOENIX, FLASHING, ETC!

spark001uk

13-09-2009, 04:51 PM

Oh my life, you're having a laugh!! I bought my phone brand new off someone lastnite, and was up til 3am unbricking it after i did a voda v11 > nemesis > nsu v12 and bricking, and i then read that all it needed was a hard reset???!!!

(i must admit i did try it at the time, but having owned a 5800 i held red+green+camera!) :)

wezz69

27-09-2009, 07:42 AM

COULDNT FIND PHONE... until i removed the sim card, then worked instantly. Really thought i lost an amazing phone just coz vodafone wanna ruin the handset with their crappy f/w. just need to find th facebook app again

nottmbantam

27-09-2009, 09:32 AM

The Facebook widget is a free download from the Ovi store, just have a look in the 'Applications ' section.

lovesign

27-09-2009, 09:55 AM

just need to find the facebook app again

Ovi Store :)

hadzsity

27-09-2009, 05:27 PM

JAF version 1.98.62
Detected PKEY: 90009699
Card life counter: 99.99%
P-key nokia module version 01.02
FBUS INTERFACE NOT CONNECTED!!!
USB Cable Driver version: 7.1.17.0
Changing mode...Done!
Detected P-KEY: 90009699
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Done!
FILES SET FOR FLASHING:
MCU Flash file: NONE
PPM Flash file: NONE
CNT Flash file: NONE
APE Variant file: NONE
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\

Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
Scanning ini files...
Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
FILES SET FOR FLASHING:
MCU Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_12.0.024_prd.core.C00
PPM Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_12.0.024_prd.rofs2.V07
CNT Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_12.0.024_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx
APE Variant file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM505_507_12.0.024_uda1_001.uda.fpsx
Languages in ppm: English,German,Croatian,Serbian,Greek
Detected P-KEY: 90009699
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Init usb communication...
Searching for phone...Found
Reading SW version...ICPR72_09w17.6 12.0.024
Reading battery value...4127 mV
Init usb flashing...
Reading flashid...
CMT: 004000EC <=> SAMSUNG (SEC) -> KAT00F00RA
APE: 00000000 <=> Flash -> not detected
Verifing ADL communication... Status byte 7
Rebooting to flash mode...
Waiting for the phone to reboot...
Searching for phone...
Phone rebooted but not in flash mode...

:icon13::icon13::mad::con?

hadzsity

27-09-2009, 05:28 PM

JAF version 1.98.62
Detected PKEY: 9000AAC9
Card life counter: 99.99%
P-key nokia module version 01.02
FBUS INTERFACE NOT CONNECTED!!!
USB Cable Driver version: 7.1.17.0
Changing mode...Done!
FILES SET FOR FLASHING:
MCU Flash file: NONE
PPM Flash file: NONE
CNT Flash file: NONE
APE Variant file: NONE
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\

Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Searching for JAF saved location of ini...
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
Scanning ini files...
Searching for default location of ini...
Checking path: \Products\RM-505\
Checking path: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\
FILES SET FOR FLASHING:
MCU Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_12.0.024_prd.core.C00
PPM Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_12.0.024_prd.rofs2.V07
CNT Flash file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM-505_12.0.024_C01_prd.rofs3.fpsx
APE Variant file: C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\RM-505\RM505_507_12.0.024_uda1_001.uda.fpsx
Languages in ppm: English,German,Croatian,Serbian,Greek
Backing up CRT...
Detected P-KEY: 9000AAC9
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Init usb communication...
Reading IMEI...
C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\ProgData\356064032553659_CRT_backu p_1928279.pm
Done!
Backup CRT OK!
Detected P-KEY: 9000AAC9
P-key nokia module version 01.02
Init usb communication...
PRESS POWER ON NOW!
Searching for phone...Found
Error reading phone init data...

no succes....

wezz69

27-09-2009, 06:26 PM

wezz69

27-09-2009, 06:31 PM

Fair point. I've done it now and the tone has returned. Still not getting any widgets though but that's not an issue really.

davwil, I think someone in this thread stated it happened to their 3 handset too.

i didnt have any widgets after flashing, but just click options add content to re-add the widgets on the homescreen,, simples

lovesign

27-09-2009, 07:17 PM

Why aren't you using NSS to debrand?

FAR, FAR simpler, and way more successful....

http://nokia.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/firmware.htm

ironass

27-09-2009, 10:45 PM

Far, Far, Far, Far sinmpler this way... honest!

http://nokia.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/firmware.htm

mattjuk

28-09-2009, 04:49 AM

hi all just to let you know what happened with mine i was on vodafone v11 changed my code to a euro one used nsu to flash to v12 and my phone appeared to be a brick (cycles of powering on a single horizontal band on the screen then turning off) all i had to do to fix was a hard reset worked first time :-D

aferg01

29-09-2009, 03:32 PM

tolick

22-10-2009, 01:33 PM

Yes, I've done everything that everyone has suggested.
MY problem is it gets to Pooling then fails....

"My ressurection goes fine until it gets to the "Pooling Phone" bit. The screen goes all LCD liney, then stops.
Then, JAF says something along the lines of:
"Did your phone turn back on, Yes No?"
when I click "No" cos it didn't back come back on, it just says "Done!" and finishes.
Though its not actually done, as the phone doesnt turn back on or do anything.

So I try it all again, but then click...YES
But when I click "Yes" JAF thinks for a while then says...
"Phone not found...
Second try...
MCUSW: (null)
APESW: (null)
VariantSW: (null)
Prodcode:
Setting test mode...
Failed! Aborting!
Done!"

It doesn't turn on or anything.
And JAF has finished.

I've done the files manually. The .ini file option is there
ie: N97 is listed. It looks for the folders
both Phoenix\Products\RM-505 and the other Nokia folder
I downloaded everything from Navifirm

Basically, I've done everything correctly just the minute it gets to
"POOLING" it doesn't work. Trying again makes no difference.

riverboat

28-10-2009, 07:56 PM

riverboat

28-10-2009, 08:06 PM

It to had a bricked N97 after rebranding from vodaphone and upgrading.

I followed the instructions at http://dailymobile.se/forum/index.php?topic=1792.0 but with a twist.

Before you start JAF the 1.98.62 version download JAF 1.98.64 from http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=779333&page=24
and copy just the ini files to progam files/odeon/jaf, this includes the latest settings for the n97.

Then follow the rest of the instructions.

Happy days :):)

David

I can't see anywhere on that link to download the ini files from or JAF 1.98.64.

Can anyone provide a nice clear idiots guide and the actual progs used, i know everyone would have to use Navifirm to get there individual firmware.
But as this is a N97 forum, perhaps a nice clear sticky would be great, as i'm sure loads of people with bricked phones would benefit from it.

lovesign

28-10-2009, 08:17 PM

I've said it once and I'll say it again.....

Why oh why do people persist in using the terribly complicated and perilous method of JAF to debrand their phones when the Nemesis Service Suite method is infinitely simpler and infinitely less prone to problems?? :banghead: :hmmmm: :stupid: :con?

Go to this link....

http://nokia.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/firmware.htm

...follow the very simple steps (all links to NSS are included) and change that Product Code safely in seconds. Then use Nokia's very own tried and tested method of firmware updating, NSU, to finish the job.

No messing around with swapping out batteries, downloading firmware from places that aren't even Nokia, swapping .dll files, etc, etc.

Just download and install NSS, plug the USB cable into your phone, allow NSS to find your phone, key in the new product code, press write, job done.

riverboat

28-10-2009, 09:07 PM

Lasikie

28-10-2009, 09:59 PM

lovesign

28-10-2009, 10:38 PM

NSU and ovi suite updater don't work for everyone pal.

And why is that, PAL?

wills54321

28-10-2009, 10:45 PM

lovesign

28-10-2009, 10:58 PM

I was under the impression that just changing the product code via NSS would brick the handset when you tried to install the updated V12 firmware. I followed the JAF de-branding guide over at http://n97debranding.blogspot.com/ and this worked perfectly (for me anyway).

-Will

Nope. NSS works flawlessly everytime. If it fails to restart (which is rare from what I hear) a simple vulcan death grip sorts that out for you. A simple Google search on the JAF method turns up enormous amounts of people who have had it fail on them or it took an inordinate amount of time to perform. NSS is one app two clicks and done.

riverboat

29-10-2009, 07:59 AM

This is starting to sound like the Xbox360 VS PS3 or N97vs Iphone stuff, with just a different subject to argue over LOL.

Lovesign, last night i debranded and updated both my N97 (delivered yesterday, and My Hubbys N86, again new yesterday)
I used Nemesis and then Nokia Updater, all went fine, and both phones are now debranded and running the latest firmware.

However, i had done exactly the same thing the previous evening with the N86 and it bricked, no amount of hard re-setting got it going. So i was looking at Jaf as a way of flashing it back to life.
So there you have it Two N86's on same Vista desktop, one went okay the other didn't!

Hal-IBM

06-02-2010, 06:01 PM

I Googled like a lunatic when I was about to change the firmware language of my Nokia N97. There are a lot of sloppy tutorials out there and I was quite confused until I hit the mother load. These two guides are the best on the web in my book, for those who are interested:

How to Change the Product Code on a Nokia N97 (http://www.techcredo.com/symbian/change-n97-product-code)

How to Unbrand Your Nokia N97 (http://www.n97fanatics.com/complete-guide-to-unbranding-your-nokia-n97/)

Both seems pretty fool-proof to me and if I'd have to choose just one, I'd go for the first.

Just wanted to share :D

Enjoy

ecsw

12-02-2010, 01:26 AM

And why is that, PAL?

Simple answer, change of product code changes the region of the product and lose the 3G band.

If you are in North American (RM507, 850/1900/2100) and want Asian characters, you need firmware/product code from RM505 (900/1900/2100). Change the product code to RM505 loses 850 band and 900 band will not work either.

It has different hardware inside. Nokia's program designer didn't think about everyone. :icon13:

There are many different immigrants from different countries to North American. They need the phone (3G) part, but they also want to read MP3 tag in their original language because that's the music they listen to.

JAF is a power tool to flash Nokia even when it's dead. You can pick any part of the firmware file and flash it as you like. NSU is smart and great program, but not good enough imo.

ecsw

12-02-2010, 01:29 AM

emilc

29-08-2010, 04:46 PM

Heeeelp me..

i was just flashing myg phone nokia n97 useing the guide. half way of flash my PC crashed and now my phone is dead.
i have tried hardreset without any help.
noting happens when trying to turn on my phone, no screen at all.
but when the phone is connected to the pc via usb and try to turn on the phone. i then can hear usb connect dis-connect. it just goes on and on with connect and dis-connect,. can someone plz help me.

ps. i installed jaf 1.98.62 and copied all ini files from 1.98.64. then downloaded OGM_JAF_PKEY_Emulator_v 5 but when i click at GO, i then get this message:
"Checking Windows version ...
Windows version: Microsoft
Searching for JAF install location ...
Saved winscard.dll to: C:\Program Files\ODEON\JAF\winscard.dll
ERROR: Not supported Windows version"

i also tried with version 4 but the same.
im runing windows 7.

any help please