View Full Version : P800 TIPS & TRICKS!


Raven
02-01-2003, 01:32 AM
How to connect to your internet DSL connection through Bluetooth on your P800:

1) Download this Java browser and install it on your P800 http://www.reqwireless.com/webviewer.html

2) Set up your bluetooth connection on your PC and P800. Make sure that the bluetooth icon on your P800 shows that you're connected.

3) Open the reqwireless WebViewer while you're connected to bluetooth and VOILA, off you go surfing the web for free. Normally when you use the WebViewer you should see a GPRS icon at the bottom of your phone, but now you don't, which means you're surfing the web through bluetooth and your PC's internet connection!

Try this little trick out folks, and let me know if it works for you too!

4) To make it work with the built-in browser you need to delete your INTERNET ACCOUNT SETTINGS.

Cheers
Raven

02-01-2003, 07:20 PM
why we dowload this sofware "webviewer"

the p800 have the web inclu in the phone we have not need this one

Raven
02-01-2003, 07:37 PM
Try to compare the WebViewer to the built in P800 browser and you will see why. ;)

It's about twice as fast and it's easier to use for just browsing.
Besides, it recognizes the Bluetooth connection without any hassle.

03-01-2003, 12:03 PM
How do you do this on a mac with macosx

GhostDog
03-01-2003, 05:14 PM
You need webviewer because its better and the builtin browser recognizes your operator GPRS setings and uses them to connect to net.
About the mac issue? All you need to do is setup internet sharing on your box and folow the steps described by Raven.

Rear_Admiral
03-01-2003, 07:34 PM
Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

ginomi
03-01-2003, 11:21 PM
Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

gr8 tips!

Gino

gunnar-p800
05-01-2003, 02:43 AM
Try to compare the WebViewer to the built in P800 browser and you will see why. ;)

It's about twice as fast and it's easier to use for just browsing.
Besides, it recognizes the Bluetooth connection without any hassle.

The Webviewer MIDP app does all access towards a dedicated proxy server owned by its vendor, from how I understand this it never directly accesses a web server. That's how they can display a 500k JPG off a page in a few seconds, the size reduction takes place on the proxy and only data appropriate for the actual device gets sent over, they can use whatever private protocol between the proxy and browser. This principle was a hot topic in research a few years a ago. Seems this browser is among the first for mobile devices that exploit this. Since all traffic flow through the vendors server all sorts of data mining techniques and tollgating could be applied by such a browser vendor.

GhostDog
05-01-2003, 02:58 AM
I'm sure that it is the case with .pdf files.I dont think that they use their proxy server for normal browsing.

ginomi
05-01-2003, 12:44 PM
I'm sure that it is the case with .pdf files.I dont think that they use their proxy server for normal browsing.

With WV you can just see a little subset of HTML tags, so this is the first compression WV make, also I think they could use a bXML protocol to reduce more the BW. And, more, you see a reduced version of every image you load, in size and in bit-depth (look at WV settings).
The result is a more quick browser than the internal...

You can see also a new (coming) version of Opera with this approach:
http://www.opera.com/products/smartphone/smallscreen/

Gino

Link
12-01-2003, 05:07 AM
Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

How the H$!! did you figure that out, amazing...

captainehippo
12-01-2003, 09:34 AM
hihihi
why do you make this
go to the applications
tape view
after system information
and for the emei on the flip tape *#06#

12-01-2003, 10:17 AM
Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

How the H$!! did you figure that out, amazing...

All Ericsson phones had the same code to access the service menu:

> * < < * < * (Where < & > are the arrow keys)

Just translate them into the jog dial rotational directions! :)

CorruptedSanity
24-01-2003, 03:26 AM
Hi,,
Ok i downLoaded the

WebViewer

I downLoaded the

WebViewer.jad
WebViewer.jar

How do i install them on the p800 ? :\

thanks

Raven
24-01-2003, 08:41 PM
Hello,

You just have to transfer the .jar file to your P800. You can do this using IR, Bluetooth, USB or just send the file to your phone as an e-mail attachment.

coolvi
25-01-2003, 11:52 PM
Has anyone tried the "5. Format internal disk" option?! :D

01-03-2003, 02:37 PM
good work how do i sync my p800 to apple ge osx10x

SAFE
01-03-2003, 05:41 PM
Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

Where do I input this sequence?

phunqe
01-03-2003, 10:04 PM
Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

Where do I input this sequence?

In flip closed mode :)

03-03-2003, 03:50 PM
test

03-03-2003, 03:53 PM
Hi all

I've just order a MSI dongle from scan.co.uk.

When you have setup the phone and PC and they talk to each other
how do you configure your PC to connect to the internet when its gets
a request from the BT enabled p800.

I take it your basically using your PC as the internet gateway here, but
how does this work in practice.

Thanks

Ian :D

Raven
03-03-2003, 04:06 PM
You cannot initiate a BT serial port connection from the P800, you have to start the connection from your PC. And when you have a stable BT serial port connection between your PC and P800, simply open the P800 Opera browser, and off you go surfing through your PC's ADSL(or whatever)connection. Simple as that. :)

ceemrl
07-03-2003, 02:43 PM
I'm having some issues getting this running under Linux. I have a working BT connection using the BlueZ stack, and I can get my P800 connected (with the <> sign beside the Bluetooth image), but as soon as I start WV it starts GPRS, too.

Am I missing something really obvious here?

Raven
07-03-2003, 03:25 PM
Well, it normally should choose BT/DSL over GPRS(Opera and WebViewer).

Do you have internet sharing enabled on you PC?

07-03-2003, 03:57 PM
But if you have a PC, with a broadband net connection and are within (what) 10 feet of it for the bluetooth connection to work, why are you bothering to browse the web on the P800 when the PC, with a chuffing great screen and full speed access (as oppose to BT speed) is sat right next to you?

Other than 'because you can', which is OK for about 30 seconds then starts seeming a bit pointless after that.

Is this webviewer app any better than Opera P800?

As to Mac OS 10, there is no Ericsson software for that OS nor would I hold your breath for it to arrive. However, Apple and SE do have a good relationship, and Apple's inbuilt iCal and iSync software work well with the T68i. I haven't tried it with my P800 yet (I don't have a BT adapter for my Mac) but if they don't work with the P800 now, they will very soon. That's if you've got 10.2...

07-03-2003, 04:00 PM
does the BT connection from the phone go thou ports like 8080 instead
of 80.
The reason why I ask is because I have a outbound proxy server on
8080 and so the p800 will hit it on port 80 instead of 8080.

Can you tell the p800 to change its ports

ceemrl
07-03-2003, 04:07 PM
Raven - the Linux box that my BT dongle is on is my firewall/router/ADSL connected box. It has access to the ADSL connection, and I didn't think I needed to do any more, but now you mention it... I'll check when I get home.

Jonbwfc - there is certainly an element of 'because I can', however if someone else is using that PC, I'm in another room or outside (where I do get BT connection) then it would be useful. Additionally, I have my P800 set to check for mail on a regular basis. Given that it uses 2.4k to check that nothing is there, I can see some small bandwidth savings.

Friends also run BT in their flat and have broadband, so, again more flexibility and potential reduction in expenditure. :-)

Raven
07-03-2003, 04:28 PM
But if you have a PC, with a broadband net connection and are within (what) 10 feet of it for the bluetooth connection to work, why are you bothering to browse the web on the P800 when the PC, with a chuffing great screen and full speed access (as oppose to BT speed) is sat right next to you?

Other than 'because you can', which is OK for about 30 seconds then starts seeming a bit pointless after that.

Is this webviewer app any better than Opera P800?

As to Mac OS 10, there is no Ericsson software for that OS nor would I hold your breath for it to arrive. However, Apple and SE do have a good relationship, and Apple's inbuilt iCal and iSync software work well with the T68i. I haven't tried it with my P800 yet (I don't have a BT adapter for my Mac) but if they don't work with the P800 now, they will very soon. That's if you've got 10.2...

Actually the BT range is approx. 10 meters(not feet) and it can go through walls, so if you have your PC upstairs and bedroom downstairs you can browse the web and check your mail(without having to use expensive GPRS) before you go to sleep. That's just one suggestion, and of course it might not be so usefull to everyone, but I think it's kinda fun, and if you have a program on your P800 which requires GPRS for updating, streaming, downloading etc you can use it through BT/IR/USB instead, quite usefull and a money saver I think.

And, no, WebViewer was just an alternative before we got Opera. WebViewer is written in Java and doesn't take use of the entire screen, and it doesn't have all the features of Opera.

Cheers.

07-03-2003, 08:30 PM
I am not clear how to connect p800 with pc?
dial up, lan access or serial port connection?
How do you do this? from PC or from p800 to initiate the connection?

Thanks in advance
my email address is
beichuang@yahoo.com

Xavier
07-03-2003, 09:35 PM
bluetooth passthrough internet access apparently only works on systems running the SE proxy stack, which is part of the SE software suite... so if you're using OSX or *nix you might be out of luck.

Raven
07-03-2003, 10:57 PM
I am not clear how to connect p800 with pc?
dial up, lan access or serial port connection?
How do you do this? from PC or from p800 to initiate the connection?




You cannot initiate a BT serial port connection from the P800, you have to start the connection from your PC. And when you have a stable BT serial port connection between your PC and P800, simply open the P800 Opera browser, and off you go surfing through your PC's ADSL(or whatever)connection. Simple as that. :)

08-03-2003, 09:24 AM
Maybe this is old tip, i haven't seen it here before. When you are surffing with p800 via mrouter lika via bluetooth then your local computer is found from address wsockhost.mrouter. In example if you have webserver at port 80 running in your mrouter host computer it can be found at address http://wsockhost.mrouter/

Dillerfrazer
08-03-2003, 12:35 PM
How to connect to your internet DSL connection through Bluetooth on your P800:

1) Download this Java browser and install it on your P800 http://www.reqwireless.com/webviewer.html

2) Set up your bluetooth connection on your PC and P800. Make sure that the bluetooth icon on your P800 shows that you're connected.

3) Open the reqwireless WebViewer while you're connected to bluetooth and VOILA, off you go surfing the web for free. Normally when you use the WebViewer you should see a GPRS icon at the bottom of your phone, but now you don't, which means you're surfing the web through bluetooth and your PC's internet connection!

Try this little trick out folks, and let me know if it works for you too!

4) To make it work with the built-in browser you need to delete your INTERNET ACCOUNT SETTINGS.

Cheers
Raven
.... goes for Opera, too!

Raven
08-03-2003, 02:46 PM
Yep...That's a really old post, before Opera was available. Read the entire thread before making comments, please.

knoppi
08-03-2003, 07:11 PM
How do you do this on a mac with macosx

Its possible by using "Sony Ericsson Clicker" from Jonas Salling.

Establish your connection and it works :fadein:

08-03-2003, 10:55 PM
Since the port connection has to be done manually, is it possible to leave your break your bluetooth connection and then have it re-establish itself upon your return? You can setup the software to sync automatically once it connects so this would be cool.

My problem is that my bluetooth serial port connection continues to assign itself com port 0. I am then given the message that my p800 refused the connection. Miraculously, the sync then begins. It seems like a bug to me, since it's actually connected to com port 10 according to the com port list in the sony sony software. Has anyone figured out away to make this work properly?

Thanks!

Chewie
16-03-2003, 11:03 PM
Which is better webviewer or opera

Raven
16-03-2003, 11:23 PM
Opera of course

J2theIZZO
17-03-2003, 02:46 AM
Opera of course

Without a single doubt!

Zak248313
17-03-2003, 06:02 AM
Which is better webviewer or opera

:o

Chewie
17-03-2003, 07:33 AM
OK which is best was probrably the wrong question, let me put it this way does webviewer have any advantages over opera apart from its smaller filesize.

J2theIZZO
17-03-2003, 09:12 AM
To answer your question: No, I can't think of anything.

ephebe
17-03-2003, 09:21 AM
It does have an advantage, yes. Webviewer uses a proxy server at Requireless, which filters out a lot of the webpage that you wouldnt be able to see on your device. It re-sizes any images, before they are sent to your phone. Opera does the filtering / re-sizing once it has downloaded the page. If you want a lower GPRS byte count / quicker download time use Webviewer.

Andy.

tybollt
17-03-2003, 10:02 AM
It does have an advantage, yes. Webviewer uses a proxy server at Requireless, which filters out a lot of the webpage that you wouldnt be able to see on your device. It re-sizes any images, before they are sent to your phone. Opera does the filtering / re-sizing once it has downloaded the page. If you want a lower GPRS byte count / quicker download time use Webviewer.

Andy.

This isn't a software feature in particular.
In theory you can setup a smart proxy that does this for the Opera browser or any other browser too.

ephebe
17-03-2003, 11:02 AM
This isn't a software feature in particular.
Yes it is.

In theory you can setup a smart proxy that does this for the Opera browser or any other browser too.
And where exactly do you put the proxy server address in Opera, so that your smart proxy server is used?

The guy asked if there are any advantages in using Webviewer over Opera, of which this obviously is one if he is having to pay for his online data throughput / time.

Dillerfrazer
30-03-2003, 06:40 AM
1) How do you get the mail programme to use the BT connection?

2) Can you get programmes like WorldMate to use the BT?

Raven
30-03-2003, 01:04 PM
1) You need to set up a new "dummy" internet account, don't fill in any settings, just change the IP address to something like 123.000.000.000. Then go to messaging accounts and set your e-mail account to connect using this dummy internet account. 2) Yes, it works without having to change any settings, just like Opera and WebViewer etc.

31-03-2003, 06:50 PM
How do you do this on a mac with macosx

Its possible by using "Sony Ericsson Clicker" from Jonas Salling.

Establish your connection and it works :fadein:

No it doesn't. Clicker doesn't even work with the P800, only the T68

Vindacatrix
17-04-2003, 01:18 PM
Hey guys,

Do you have to have the PC Suite installed on your computer to be able to share the internet connection via bluetooth through it? Only I'm running Win'98 on a relatively old machine, and when I tried the latest '98-compatable version it turned my PC into electronic treacle :(

I've read about "mrouter" a few times, and am assuming it's a part of the PC Suite (& possibly the part which lets you net share); is there any way to load it seperately or an alternative that I could use, preferably which doesn't eat up all my system resources?

Thanks for your help :D

18-04-2003, 01:11 AM
Reqwireless browser version 3.0 is a pretty substantial upgrade from 2.0 with caching and history support (and is much, much faster than Opera). WebViewer handles web sites much better and faster than Opera IMO, which is much more important for a mobile experience. Apparently 3.0 is due for release very, very shortly (I have a pre-release version).

Chervitsche
18-04-2003, 07:38 AM
Hello Guys i am from the netherlands ... i have the p800 for a wile
but i read something about going on the internet trough the pc connection ( for free then ) because i have LAN i think so what do i need to do to get free internet on the P800 :-?

Chewie
18-04-2003, 09:59 AM
You need to make a bluetooth serial port connection between your PC and the P800. When you open up a browser such as Opera it will automatically use the bluetooth connection to connect to the internet.

enterprise
19-04-2003, 01:18 AM
For quite a while now, I have been reading posts where people are asking help on what they can do to fix their P800 after tweaking something or installing some softwares. They say that they have done almost everything even uninstalling the newly installed program.

It has been posted so many time also to make a backup regulary. But I guess, it should be emphasized... do a BACKUP REGULARLY!

Aside from your regular backup (i.e. daily or weekly), do a backup before and after software change.

Without a backup there's nothing to restore from.... duh! 8)

vex
29-04-2003, 10:23 PM
Where do I input this sequence?In flip closed mode :)Don't forget to unlock your keypad, if you use that option.

Bigfeat
30-04-2003, 12:53 PM
As far as the Browser options which has the overall package? I'm running Opera now, but I've run into some glitches with the Hotmail and Yahoo sites... It crashed on me a few times, but at the time I was running an older firmware.. I just got updated to R2D I wonder if the firmware addressed the issue or the browser designers have to do the work.

1.Opera 6.0
2.Webviewer
3.Reqwireless

alfonso
10-05-2003, 07:27 AM
after sometimes, my MSI 1.2.2.15 pops up a box requiring me to enter a license key.

now i cant use my bt anymore.

had anyone encountered the same prob? :cry:

02-06-2003, 09:20 AM
Back to to the same old connection via bluetooth gateway thing.

I am trying to connect via bluetooth through a pc on a lan with a dedicated connection through a firewall and router. What settings should be used in the dial-up settings on the P800 to make this work with Opera.

Whenever I try connect. It comes up with an "Information Unknown error box"

any ideas anybody

Thanks

Raven
02-06-2003, 10:35 AM
You must set the P800 to connect through GPRS. No settings is needed when using Opera. Just remember to connect your P800 to your PC using the PC-Suite, as mRouter in PC-Suite acts as a gateway to your PC's internet connection.

Jago
02-06-2003, 12:15 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get the phone to ring through the normal speakers when in Handsfree mode?

I use the supplied earphones when driving but don't want to keep the ear bud in all the time, I'd prefer to just put it in when I get a call but miss calls because I can't hear a ring. It only rings through the earbuds when in handsfree!

Cheers
Jago

bigdaddychris
08-06-2003, 01:51 AM
Another nice trick: to get access to the service menu, use the following combination: turn jog dial up ,*,down, down,*,down,*

How the H$!! did you figure that out, amazing...

All Ericsson phones had the same code to access the service menu:

> * < < * < * (Where < & > are the arrow keys)

Just translate them into the jog dial rotational directions! :)

its not working for me :(

bigdaddychris
08-06-2003, 01:54 AM
it worked! :D

31-07-2003, 11:43 PM
I have been reading the forums about how to connect my P800 to my PC with a bluetooth serial port connection so I can brows the Internet through my mobile without any extra cost. I am using a 3Com Wireless Bluetooth PC Card 3CRWB6096 with and 3Com Bluetooth Connection Manager installed on my laptop that runs with OS XP Home edition and I have had no successes so far in making a serial port connection. In all the posting I have read it is simply said that one has to make a serial port connection without any further explanation.

For me this is not a peace of cake as it obviously is for other readers. I have also read in one of the forums “The software does not include utilities for initiating connections other than the LAN and DUN profiles. This may be the problem since the software cannot initiate Serial COM connections”.

If someone has figured out a way to make a serial connection port with this equipment I would like to know how.

Raven
01-08-2003, 10:27 AM
Guest,

I assume you've paired the two successfylly, no? It sometimes require quite a bit of fiddling to get a stable serial port connection going..

What I've found to be an easy way of starting the connection is to double-click the mRouter icon(bottom right corner of your PC - looks like two small arrows pointing in opposite directions) and check the com ports you're using(repeat if needed).

Oh, and of course you must have the P800 PC-Suite installed, mRouter is a part of PC-Suite and acts as the gateway to your PC's internet connection.

There's also another(better) solution posted before in this forum(I'll try to hunt down the link) where the PC and P800 will immediately recognice each other and a BT serial port connection will automatically be started.

Raven
01-08-2003, 10:34 AM
Here's the link: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14640&highlight=bluetooth+connecti on+automatically

tsg
05-09-2003, 01:45 AM
1) You need to set up a new "dummy" internet account, don't fill in any settings, just change the IP address to something like 123.000.000.000. Then go to messaging accounts and set your e-mail account to connect using this dummy internet account. 2) Yes, it works without having to change any settings, just like Opera and WebViewer etc.

Hey I tried this and I get an error"Activation rejected"... has any one else got this working?

tsg
05-09-2003, 02:49 AM
1) You need to set up a new "dummy" internet account, don't fill in any settings, just change the IP address to something like 123.000.000.000. Then go to messaging accounts and set your e-mail account to connect using this dummy internet account. 2) Yes, it works without having to change any settings, just like Opera and WebViewer etc.

Hey I tried this and I get an error"Activation rejected"... has any one else got this working?

Ok I've managed to get this working now.. I just set up a new internet account and didn't change any of the settings - including NOT changing IP address.

Now I just set prefered account to 'dummy' and can use the built in browser and email over bluetooth. sweet...

spacedude
07-09-2003, 05:11 PM
Just installed Opera and now connecting to internet using my broadband connection WOW!!!! superb

i got a 100 metre range connector so i can go out in the garden and go online on ME PHONE!!!!!!!!!!

spacedude
08-09-2003, 06:07 AM
err actually i cant go outside in the garden!!! :( :(
i dont think the p800 can go over 10metres even if the USB adaptor can

still good though!!

can any one get hotmail this way? i try but it crashes the fone!!

Raven
08-09-2003, 10:29 PM
can any one get hotmail this way?

Try using the Reqwireless HotViewer (http://www.reqwireless.com/hotviewer.html).