Is anybody else having issue with memory cards being corrupted by their N70. I have now tried two different 512Mg cards from Kingston, ths first worked for a few days before the phone couldnt read it - the second could be read when I first inserted it, but when I went to format the card the phone soft reset and now it is saying the card is corrupted. I can read the card in my PC card reader and I can read the original Orange card in my phone... its all a but frustrating!!!

Im having the exact same problem witht he same size Kingston chip.

Sending mine back to get checked, but i reckon ill opt for a refund as they just dont seem to work at all with the N70 :(

No problems with ATP or Transcend cards on my N70, FWIW. Been using those for a few months now.

this Nokia support forum makes interesting reading in relation to you problem..

http://discussions.nokia.co.uk/discussions/board/message?board.id=hardware&message.id=13&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

This happened to me using a 3650 (seems to be a common problem in s60 phones).

I used my cheapy £2.99 card reader to format it, and now it works absolutely fine.

Is anybody else having issue with memory cards being corrupted by their N70. I have now tried two different 512Mg cards from Kingston, ths first worked for a few days before the phone couldnt read it - the second could be read when I first inserted it, but when I went to format the card the phone soft reset and now it is saying the card is corrupted. I can read the card in my PC card reader and I can read the original Orange card in my phone... its all a but frustrating!!!

Using a Kingston 512 on my N70, absolutely no problems at all..

Weird

Got a Kingston 512 for my N70 too.

Works fine most of the time but I have problems transferring data to it sometimes. Pics seem to be fine but if I try and send something like a mp3 it just freezes and says the phone has rejected the operation.

1 thing i did notice, i formatted my card in another phone and then started using it my N70 which worked perfectly, but when i have formatted it in my N70 it doesnt work very well. Not sure if that helps

Having played around with it quite a lot over the weekend (oo-er missus), it seems to be linked to trying to format the card in the phone and trying to do it with a very low battery.
I have re-formatted the card in my card reader and it seems to be working fine (at the moment) in my fully charged phone...

I've just ordered another 512 card made from lexar card from RS Components which costs £27 GBP, which I thought was pretty cheap. Got it slighty cheaper myself as I'm staff :-)

Will pick it up tomorrow and let you know how it is. I'm hoping I dont have the same issues as my Kingston gave me.

Will post feedback.

Beware: I could be wrong, but I think Lexar doesn't have a dual-voltage (DV) RS-MMC available, but just single-voltage (which will not work at all in the N70).

I've gone through 3 Kingstons in the past and had to return them. They don't have good quality control obviously. I also noticed a speed increase since switching to aData cards. All my friends have been using these cards as well. They're reliable, fast and cheap-highly recommended.

Beware: I could be wrong, but I think Lexar doesn't have a dual-voltage (DV) RS-MMC available, but just single-voltage (which will not work at all in the N70).

I checked before I purchased that it was DV. Pick up it later so will be able to confirm for sure.

I've just ordered another 512 card made from lexar card from RS Components which costs £27 GBP, which I thought was pretty cheap. Got it slighty cheaper myself as I'm staff :-)

Will pick it up tomorrow and let you know how it is. I'm hoping I dont have the same issues as my Kingston gave me.

Will post feedback.
I take it it's item 504-1680?

http://www.rswww.com (www.rswww.com)

Whats the lattest new? Does it work?

Carl,

Been havin problems with my 512 kingston card... Doesnt say corrupted, but sometimes i'll select one mp3 and it will play another.. music player readin the wrong tags.. Songs mysteriously dissapearing.. Java games not working.. Got to a point where the menu wouldnt actually load up with the memory card in

Been doing some digging and the Lexar 512 RS-MMC is not Dual Voltage, :(

Did find a DV RS-MMC 512 on Mobilefun

www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6332.htm

£24.95, £27.45 Delivered to UK,

Mine should arrive Tuesday I hope,

Carl,

I checked before I purchased that it was DV. Pick up it later so will be able to confirm for sure.

Yeah your right guys it's not DV. Also brought a mem card reader that will read any card except my kingston. Just trying to transfer data from card to re format it again, having a few problems.

Wouldnt recommend that anyone brought a kingston 512 card for the N70, i've had nothing but problems with mine. :mad:

Yeah your right guys it's not DV. Also brought a mem card reader that will read any card except my kingston. Just trying to transfer data from card to re format it again, having a few problems.

Wouldnt recommend that anyone brought a kingston 512 card for the N70, i've had nothing but problems with mine. :mad:
Like I said, Kingston sucks.

I've got a PQI card... up to 56mb/sec transfer rate and so far (4 weeks) no hang ups!!

Just recieve a 512mb ADATA RS MMC memory card 512MB RSMMC MO 512MO..for the nokia n70
And the card does not work?Insert the same card in my card reader on the pc and the pc does not even see the card.Have I brougth the wrong memory card?the conecters arn't the same as the memory card that came with the phone.Please help...

I decided to go for a 512mb card from http://www.mobilefun.co.uk £28 Inc Del,

It's an intergral card and despite having problems with their MMC, this one seams to work fine in my N70,

I've loaded a few MP3's on it, Also loaded TomTom on it which is still working at the moe, (V5.000)

Will let you know if the card stops working or plays up,

Carl,

Anybody here tried a 1GB RS-MMC for the Nokia N70?:con?

Anybody here tried a 1GB RS-MMC for the Nokia N70?:con?Yeah, I've been running 1GB in my N70 since Dec 05 and never had a problem :icon14: :D I got mine from Mobymemory.

S.

where & what is the best place for memory cards?

I also bought a 1gig card from "MobyMemory" I ordered it at 2.55pm, and it arrived the very next morning.

A 1gig card is £25.99. So very well priced, and a swift service, so i dont know about the best, but they are certainly the best ive come across :)

MobyMemory (http://www.mobymemory.com/RS_DV_Dual_Voltage_MMC_MMCMobile_Memory_Cards_for_ Nokia_6680_6681_6682_6630_Nokia_N70_N90__mobiles_N 770_tablet.asp)

Ive had no problems yet, however i would reccomend getting a mem card reader from somewhere, as tranferring files to my phone through the data cable is painfully slow, around 30 secs per MB.

I bought a 1GB Kingston MMC Mobile yesterday - no problems so far on my 3.0546.2.3 firmware N70, with the card 80% full. Will keep you posted.

I still find it hard to believe that a particular make could cause problems, though....

Steve Litchfield

how mcuh was it steve?

I think it was about £28? Something like that. Seemed incredibly cheap. I remember buying my first Psion SSD. 128k, it cost £40!

I have a 2 cards of 1Gb rs-dv MMC from Mobymemory, and branded the same way, since November. One in a N70 and the other in a N-Gage QD. No problem at all. The delivery service of Mobymemory, from them to Portugal, is one or two working day, without any problem at all.

The data read/write speeds for the Kingston card seem appalling. Video recording on the N70 to card was next to impossible, with horribly jerky capture. I went back to my US TECH 512MB card and all was fine again.

I strongly suspect, as mentioned by others, that the slow access speeds are also responsible for occasional breakdowns in the integration of apps into the Menu system.

The Kingston card seems OK in my wife's 6630, used for MP3s, but I'm not going to buy Kingston again......

Anyone know of any definitive benchmarks between makes? Maybe we should compile our own?

Steve Litchfield

Very quick and unscientific, but by using FExplorer to copy a largish (3MB) file to my 512Mb US TECH card (from C: to E:), it came up about 1MB/sec write speed.

The 1GB Kingston, on the other hand, came up at 0.3MB/sec write speed.

Can you chip in with your own tests of write speed? Thanks.

Steve Litchfield

slitchfield, I've a 512MB Kingston in my N70 and video is smooth...not jerky at all. It comes with a lifetime warranty too and I'm happy with it. Although I haven't tested read/write rates. Didn't think your's should be slow as that...let's see what other 1GB owners' performance.

Jon

What I'm suspecting is that Kingston is slower in their cards than those from other manufacturers, and also that the 1GB cards, with their slightly larger file tables, are slightly slower to access by necessity. Add the two factors and you might get the results I saw.

What we really need though is lots more data from other N70 owners! I'll put up a pointer to this thread on the AAS front page.

Steve

I'm using a 1GB takeMS card for my N70 and it works fine...
But something is strange in this card, it has 13 pin in 2 lines intstead of 7 in 1 line...
even so the card works properly...

I've been using Kingston 512MB MMCMobile on my N6630 (the latest firmware v.6.03.08) for about 2 months with absolutely NO PROBLEMS... :icon14: I can also read/write that perfectly with my card reader.

=)juha

Can you both do a simple benchmark? Copy and Paste or Move a largish file from Internal to expansion card and then tell us the number of MB/sec, approximately.

Steve

I also bought a 1gig card from "MobyMemory" I ordered it at 2.55pm, and it arrived the very next morning.

A 1gig card is £25.99. So very well priced, and a swift service, so i dont know about the best, but they are certainly the best ive come across :)

MobyMemory (http://www.mobymemory.com/RS_DV_Dual_Voltage_MMC_MMCMobile_Memory_Cards_for_ Nokia_6680_6681_6682_6630_Nokia_N70_N90__mobiles_N 770_tablet.asp)

Ive had no problems yet, however i would reccomend getting a mem card reader from somewhere, as tranferring files to my phone through the data cable is painfully slow, around 30 secs per MB.

I'll second that. I bought two 1Gb's from MobyMemory - one for my N70 & one for the wife's 6680. Both work flawlessly with music, video & TomTom.

Can you both do a simple benchmark? Copy and Paste or Move a largish file from Internal to expansion card and then tell us the number of MB/sec, approximately.

SteveIt's quite hard to measure any transfer speeds as I have only about 2,5MB free flash on my N6630. I think that it would need about 5 to 10 MB file to tell any difference on speeds...

=)juha

is the speed in the handy so important? i have no problems with my 512mb mmcmobile card and my 6630 and my cardreader can write on it with 8mb/s. only the access time is too long. i can transfer one 20mb file faster than 50 small .txt files.

I have an N70 and am using a 1gb atp. It works flawlessly. On an unrelated note, this forum form looks bad on my n70 using opera. Im writing this from it. The form is long and skinny. On topic, 1gb atp works perfectly.

I also bought a 1gig card from "MobyMemory" I ordered it at 2.55pm, and it arrived the very next morning.

A 1gig card is £25.99. So very well priced, and a swift service, so i dont know about the best, but they are certainly the best ive come across :)

MobyMemory (http://www.mobymemory.com/RS_DV_Dual_Voltage_MMC_MMCMobile_Memory_Cards_for_ Nokia_6680_6681_6682_6630_Nokia_N70_N90__mobiles_N 770_tablet.asp)

Ive had no problems yet, however i would reccomend getting a mem card reader from somewhere, as tranferring files to my phone through the data cable is painfully slow, around 30 secs per MB.

Get one of these. Smallest and cheapest card reader, best way to carry a spare card, turns your card into a USB flash drive.
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Reader%5FUSB2%5FSD%5FMMC

I had my N70 for about a month, and a week back, obtained a bargain-priced (~18£ or so after conversion from my currency), Kingston's 1GB DV-RS-MMC Mobile card.

I formatted the card with my card reader (as FAT16) and N70 said it's corrupted. So, I formatted the card with the phone. And it's been fine since.

So far, there's no issues of unredable/hangups/missing files/apps on my phone yet.

However, performance is medicore. Pasting my 8mb MP3 from the card into the phone memory takes about 6 seconds (that's a little over 1.2mb/sec) - I'm not sure if this is good or bad?

Transferring files to and fro the card with a card reader is fast though, around the same speed as my USB FlashDrive.

"into the phone memory" - we're mainly talking about WRITE performance here - can you possibly give me the speed at pasting the same file back onto the card?

Steve Litchfield

I have a 512 Mb card and it ruined my phone. the gallery freezes all the time, and the video freezes too. First i thought it was the phone with bugs, but after a while i understood it was a mmc problem... What a waste of money...

I've been using a 1gb Kingstom memory card in my N70 for the past few weeks and its been great.

Steve,
I will be more than happy to provide actual write/read speeds if you will tell me how, or what program, or what... I just dont know where or how to get the "speed" info... Let me know and will test, mike

-never mind, just read the post and realized how to do it... Copied a 7mb mp3 from root c to root e and it took aproximately 8 seconds. so thats just under 1mb/sec write to card.

My first post on the forum...

Using a 1Gb Dane-Elec MMCmobile card with no problems at all (lots of music, eBooks, data & apps).

Copied a 11MB PDF document from C:\ to E:\ in 11.2 seconds, so again about 1mbps. Using a USB flash drive I get MUCH better performance (transferred about 400MB of oggs in one go - didn't take too long. However, converting 800MB of MP3s into OGGs took almost forever!!).

The MMCmobile spec states a *minimum* read/write speed of 2.4MB/s - cards have to be faster than this to be called MMCmobile, so I guess the lower performance is to do with the RAM<->MMC interface on the N70.
See page 11 (13) at the 'MMCmobile' spec: http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/MMCA_System_SummaryV41.pdf

Thanks. That's roughly what I see from my US TECH card, perhaps confirming that the N70's max write rate is around 1MB/s. And puts the 0.3MB/s write rate of the Kingston 1Gb card into perspective!

Any others who can contribute data?

Steve Litchfield

... Any others who can contribute data?Could firmware be an issue here? I'm using an N70 - F/W: V 2.0537.1.7, 18-09-05, RM-84. I also have the Orange Talk Now service activated (This is Orange's version of Nokia's Push To Talk, PTT, walkietalkie type service) and notice that the Talk Now app is always visible in the app list. Anyways, I use a MobyMemory branded 1GB MMCMobile card and it's been working perfectly since I got it in Dec '05. I seem to get results twice as slow as everyone else so far :icon13: :frown:

I got the following results using FExplorer V1.15 and an MP3 file of 10.205MB:

Copying from E: to C: (from MMC to phone memory): 27s equivalent to 0.38MB/s

Copying from C: to E: (from phone memory to MMC): 20s equivalent to 0.51MB/s

... Video recording on the N70 to card was next to impossible, with horribly jerky capture. I went back to my US TECH 512MB card and all was fine again.

I strongly suspect, as mentioned by others, that the slow access speeds are also responsible for occasional breakdowns in the integration of apps into the Menu system...

I've never lost an app in the manner that you describe and video recording even on the highest setting has been fine when I've taken them, infact I would say the N70 is better at taking vids than it is at still images.

:icon4: I just had another thought... I run Symantec Mobile Security :redface: I'll re-run the test with it switched off. See what I find... No difference what-so-ever.

Only other relevant info I can think of, I have 15MB free of phone memory and 520MB free memory on the card.

Hmm I feel a phone format coming on. Heh or maybe a firmware upgrade.

S.

I just received a new 1G Adata card which is much better than my previous 512M kingston one.

Video is perfect and I don't have any longer problems with TomTom and POI ! :)

I am definitely sure that write/read speeds are really important if you want to use your N70 correctly

Adata specs are 100x high speed MMC 4.0 standard which was the minimum required by tomtom to have its software working properly.

Gallery is also speedier

whatr are the faster cards
dv rs
mmc mobile?

I *think* that MMC Mobile is a standard form of DV RS-MMC that has extra pins and has the potential to be faster. But you can't always guarantee it. A lot seems to depend on the manufacturer involved.

Can anyone else shed light on this issue?

Steve

well the defualt card that came with my n70 had these extra pins & is labeled dv rs however the card which i bought for my 6630 about a yr ago is aslo labbeld dv rs but doesnt have the extra pins.
moby memory sell the ones with the extra pins at a higher cost. they lable them as dv rs & the standard ones as mmc mobile

Regarding MMC performance, I just wanted to check if it was possible or even advisable to defrag a MMCmobile card (using a PC & card-reader). I'd asume that this would result in somewhat increased performance especially given the access latency of the N70.
(sorry for posting this again, earlier post in another thread got no response :frown: )

Regarding MMC performance, I just wanted to check if it was possible or even advisable to defrag a MMCmobile card (using a PC & card-reader). I'd asume that this would result in somewhat increased performance especially given the access latency of the N70.
(sorry for posting this again, earlier post in another thread got no response :frown: )
might increase the speed for a while but seasm rather pointless. sicne the mmc is l ike a usb key would you defrag a usb key?no, sicen it would just get fragmented agian after a few transfers. defrag is better suited to pernament hdd since they will usally hold stuff for quite a long time.uslly with our mmc we put stuff on then delete it once weve backed it up

I have used a Kingston 1Gb card for about two weeks now, I have not seen any problems at all. copy speed appear to be around .2-0.3 Mbps when copying from C: to E:

I have not noticed any problems playing back recorded videos - apart from the expected 15fps stuttering.

I do play back a lot of pre-recorded movies (Smartmovie at 160 kbps), no problems

It may be slower than most cards, but at about 23 GBP, it was cheap.

Regards
Michael

Oh well, here I was going to buy a Kingston 1GB MMCmobile, and now I hear everywhere it's a bad idea =/

OK then, reading through this page I can conclude that the good 1GB RS-DV-MMC are:


ATP
Adata
MobyMemory
Dane-Elec


Is that right? Is there any other I could trust?
It's pretty hard for me to find any of these cards here in Brazil, so if you could find a trustable site that would ship one of the trustable brands of RS-DV-MMCs internationally to Brazil I'd appreciate it.

EDIT

I found a couple of sellers that are selling these Adata cards. Do you think those announced Adata cards would be a good deal? The guys selling have pretty high eBay scores, and they do ship worldwide.

Link 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1GB-Adata-DV-RS-MMC-1-G-GB-Nokia-6630-6680-N70-N90_W0QQitemZ7615980316QQcategoryZ43476QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)
Link 2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9720505096&sspagename=TNSX:PL:US:1)
Link 3 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NOKIA-1GB-N70-6630-6680-6681-DV-RS-MMC-MEMORY-CARD-1-GB_W0QQitemZ9129798118QQcategoryZ98876QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem)
Link 4 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NOKIA-1GB-N70-6630-6680-6681-DV-RS-MMC-MEMORY-CARD-1-GB_W0QQitemZ9133485531QQcategoryZ98876QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem)

You can buy Adata cards securely from flashman on ebay. I already bought quite a few things from this shop, very good products, very good services, prompt delivery, never a single problem.

I strongly suggest Adata cards, with my 9500 and my N70 they always proved to be the quickest and safest on the long term.

As I said, the 100x 1G for my N70 allowed my phone to be much speedier and without any problems with TomTom POI (always crashing before with the old card)

Thanks bluestar! Could you do that test that was being mentioned early before in this topic to see if your card's writing transfer rate is 1mb/s as expected?

I bought Adata from Flashman on ebay.

Well, the problem is still there. The jerky video recording is still there.

It is fixed by immediately formatting the mmc, after which it records rather perfectly at a perfect framerate. But after a while, after I've filled the card with some amount of data, its video recording becomes jerky again.


Can somebody PLEASE find a fix to this problem? It would be great in Nokia gets to know about this and releases an update or something.

By the way, is this any case of a messed up N70? Can i take my phone to a service center with this reason and get the phone replaced or something????

Guys, I found this :

Now, if you've been following the conversation in many of the N90 forums around the web, you'll have seen that a common 'problem' on the N70 and N90 is jerky video capture, with the culprit usually being sub-standard memory cards. The N70 and N90 capture video at 352 by 288 pixels, at 15 frames per second, saving data at around 4MB per minute. The N93 will be capturing four times as many pixels at twice the frame rate, with an estimated data rate of 20MB per minute. Sustaining this for long periods (minutes) with no holdups whatsoever is going to take some doing and cards such as SanDisk's new Ultra II cards are going to be needed if video really is to be captured at full resolution and rate. You have been warned - an older card or cheap eBay knock-off won't do here.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/The_swivelling_fliptastic_N90_and_its_successors.p hp

http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/cards.htm



Wow. So ADATA cards from FLashman on ebay really AREN'T GOOD. I bought it, and the jerky video recording IS STILL THERE.

Someone, Somewhere, please point out a good, original, seller on ebay who sells the real stuff. It doesn't have to be Ebay, it can be any reliable site with international shipping. I want to get rid of this problem soon and quick.

Guys, I found this :



http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/The_swivelling_fliptastic_N90_and_its_successors.p hp

http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/cards.htm



Wow. So ADATA cards from FLashman on ebay really AREN'T GOOD. I bought it, and the jerky video recording IS STILL THERE.

Someone, Somewhere, please point out a good, original, seller on ebay who sells the real stuff. It doesn't have to be Ebay, it can be any reliable site with international shipping. I want to get rid of this problem soon and quick.

Try here: www.mobymemory.com; SLCards and with Write / Read speed high, for MM cards and Sandisk Cards.

Try here: www.mobymemory.com; SLCards and with Write / Read speed high, for MM cards and Sandisk Cards.


I'd love to get mobymemory, as i've heard nothing but good about it. But I live in India, Mobymemory does not ship to asia (or India).


Its so hard getting an original 1gig card here, if there's still any good legit source of the card that would offer international shipping to India, please do post.

(P.S : Is amazon.com any good or is it just like Ebay?)

I'm using an ATP 1gb rs-mmc in my n70 unbranded, fw 2.x 33mb free and still perfect video capture and playback.

Check the numbers, ATP is the fastest 1gb rs-mms there is, bar none.

Where did you buy your ATP card from? Is there any online site ready to ship internationaly to Asia?

http://www.flashrus.com/atp/web/dv1g.htm

http://www.flashrus.com/atp/web/dv1g.htm

They still don't ship to my country (India) though. Too bad actualy, if India is big enough to get its own ebay address (ebay.in), then it should be on that list!

Anyways thanks though. I know a relative in UK that can get it for me from either that, or mobymemory.
Still if anybody stumbles upon a verified online site that would ship to my place and good cards like ATP, please do post :)