(real problem solution here - could this thread be sticky?)


Hello :)

Being stunned by Nokia's ability to destroy my boyfriend's SMS that i sent him, i looked for a solution. A friend of mine in italy (i'm myself in Thailand so this is int'l teamwork) today named me an application yet he wasn't sure if it would work.

I googled for hours and finally was able to find and download the really small (TWO kilobytes!!) thingy, and install it on my boyfriend's 6260.

IT WORKS!!!!

Here is what you need to do:

Download the attachment to this thread. (To the moderators: the attached ZIP file contains "MSdriveE.sis" which is NOT a crack/copy/warez but a freeware which only is DAMN hard to find!)

Unzip the file, you will find "MSdriveE.sis". Put this on your 6260 by means of bluetooth, IrDA or directly to MMC via MMC reader device. DO NOT INSTALL JUST YET!

Make sure the file is on MMC! Do not keep it in messages inbox, move it from there using a file manager like fExplorer (freeware, google it).

Take a note of your message centre number (messaging - options - settings - text message - message centre in use) because it will be needed.

THEN install the small application from drive e, using the file manager software. Install it to MMC only!

Afterwards, in menu you will find a new application, "MSdriveE". Run it ONCE (!!!), it will seemingly do nothing and just exit after about 30 seconds. BUT........

NOW YOUR MESSAGES ARE SET TO MMC USE!!!!!! As the MMC card icon on top, when inside the "Messaging" menu, will confirm.

Now, before you can send SMS, you will need to re-input your message centre number, because it has been deleted. You will also need to tell MMS settings again which access point to use. AND all your stored messages will have seemingly disappeared - it happens only this one time and NEVER again, believe me. They are still there by the way, but in the phone memory, and can no longer be accessed.

Now, opposed to 3650 an d the like, you can NOT switch between phone and MMC memory - it is MMC only from now on. To get back to phone, you need to take the MMC out and reboot the phone without MMC. Upon entering the "Messaging" menu, it will switch to phone memory. To get back to MMC, simply run MSdriveE application again.

Kindest regards.....

your Thanh

thanks i just posted about this and saw your post, this shud be made a sticky!!

does this work with an rsmmc or just a mmc

From the application's point of view, it sees (cannot see) any difference between a full-size MMC or an RS-MMC.

Hello :)

I have been made aware that this application is initially also available for N-Gage and N-Gage QD but on those devices playing an mp3 will disable receiving of SMS when MSdriveE is in use.

The reson for that behaviour (and reason for NOT having SMS-in-MMC available in first place) is the unability of the phone to run more than one task with MMC access at one time. Therefor while playing mp3, also file managers will not be able to "see" the files in driveE:.

Again *i have been told so and haven't actually tested it*!!

However on the 6260 i HAVE tested it. And there is no such behaviour. The phone just functions normal, multiple MMC-accessing apps can run at any one time and MMS/SMS can be received during any other operation.

The only thing NOT available with MSdriveE is an ability to switch between MMC and phone memory, like in a 3650 or 6600.

Kind regards.....

Thanh

PS i wonder why nobody has yet downloaded the thingy - noone with the problem anymore, or just shy? Trust me, it runs on the 6260 that i bought for my boyfriend, and it works fine :)

thanks for clearing that up

i think theres something wrong with the download counter, because i know ive downloaded it and so have a few of my friends.

Hi :)

Thank you for your trust. I did not create that application, and in fact i was being told about it by a friend in Italy. I needed to google for an extended period of time to actually get hold of that file, and after testing it i tought since so many people have the same problem, i just post it in several forums where i am member to ease access to it. Since it is a freeware in first place, this is not spreading warez but purely helping 6260-users.

I do always help as good as i can, because i myself have received great help from other users over time. I believe in sharing of ideas and solutions, which does not include software piracy by the way - developers need to be paid for their work, otherwise they won't develop anymore. But as in sharing tricks and assistance, we all can learn from each other. Today i help you to stop losing your SMS's, tomorrow you might be able to tell me something that i didn't know.

It's a shame that Nokia didn't care for this in first place. The 6260's firmware is so buggy, i believe there was no testing at all before release.

Kind regards.....

your Thanh

Thanh-BKK,


you said earlier that we need to re-input the message centre number again before sending sms. Do i need to do this every time before sending a sms or i just need to do it once.

Hello :)

You need to do that only a single one time. The number is saved in "settings" and stays there.

Kind regards.....

your Thanh

can the messages stored on the mmc be read by a program and transferred to another phone/pc?

Hello :)

I am not sure if there is a program available to decode those..... maybe there is. But i am not aware of it. There are good chances that you can transfer the whole lot to another phone by copying the whole folder "system/mail" to the MMC of the other phone (got to be Symbian of course!) and it *should* work.... haven't tested it!

You can however NOT transfer/backup/copy SINGLE mails. Only the whole lot. That is because, even tough certain elements are in seperate files, the whole thing is similar to outlook express messages, where the whole bunch of mails is in one .dbx file. You need a program like dbxtract to get single mails out of that, and on the Nokia's it all depends very much on the "index" file in the mail folder.

Kind regards.......

Thanh

i've read in another forum that the main reason nokia don't provide the setting for saving messages in the mmc is because the mmc is hot swap. meaning that the phone will crashed when the mmc is removed. So have you tried to swap the mmc while there phone still on?just curious,but i guess if using 512MB mmc, there's no need to swap any, :D


btw,only want to share some info.right now i am trying a method purposed by HanSolus. Remove the 3rd party application,Mighty Backup. Seems working fine for two weeks already. although the phone restarted, the messsages in inbox and 'my folder' still there! :)

The 6630 is hot swap and so is the Ngage QD when you remove the MMC it defaults the memory in use to the phone.

Hello :)

Yup, i have tested that after reading about this "issue". The 6260 just won't care if it's run with MMC, without MMC or with another MMC. If a message is received while it's got none or another MMC, it will automatically save the message into the phone memory. After that (and only when a message was received during such test!) you will need to run the MSDriveE once again.

Kind regards.....

your Thanh

seems to be running ok. thanks Thanh for recommending it! now i'm able to bluetooth large files to my phone without the memory problem.

but i find that now when i open an sms or do anything with my sms (such as deleting etc), or access it's kinda slow in executing the task (at least slower compared to when the sms is saved in the phone). i'm using a 512mb mmc. dunno how true is it, but someone told me 6260 is most compatible with a 256mb. using 512mb will slow only down the applications... anyone knows anything abt that?

hi thanh,

thnx for ur solotions on the mssing sms on 6260. i downloaded the zip file and installed it into my 6260 as u instructed in mthe forum word for word but i m dissapointed to say the problem hasnt entirely gone away. u said no sms will ever go missing again after installing it the prpoper way but still now some of my sms vanishes after i switch the mobile off. for example i had 30 sms stored on rs-mmc card after installation. when i switched my mobile on again one morning after the installation 25 of the sms went missing and only 5 were left behind strangly......i wanted to ask u if u have faced any such continuing problems after installing the software u provided in the zip file....if yes can u plz help me fix it again. cant afford to miss any sms :( this is so dissapointing coming from NOKIA.

i have the same built version as u. so can u shed some light into my problems......thanks....

regards.

Akid.

Hello :)

I'll address tyhe first question first... yes, MMC cards tend to be slower than internal memory, this effect can be seen with just about any application. All of them will react slower when installed in the MMC - and HOW slow depends on the MMC card itself! I had an experience with a card branded "Kingmax", 512 MB in size. This card was SO slow that it was impossible to record video - each video recording application would crash. Also ogg's played from the card stuttered and hung - it sucked. I had that card exchenged after two days use, now i am using a 512 MN "NCP" branded card, and no such problems. Oh, and just since today i use a 6600 :)

About the missing SMS, i have to say that my boyfriend so far hasn't lost ANY since installing the little thingy. The phone has been rebooted or turned off over night plenty of times, also crashed or froze occassionally - yet no single message ever disappeared. Please check if you really have "MMC" memory selected! There should not be any problem.

With kind regards.....

your Thanh

star_keiko


as for the speed,it is common that your phone will be slower when you use bigger mmc. It actually give and take issue, :D .So if you want you phone really fast,then you have to use 32MB mmc which is i think not a good option if you want to put a lot of stuff inside your phone.

btw,there is a few ways that can help your phone speed up such as make the log setting to just one day and etc, :)

p/s: want brand of mmc are you using


akid,

well, maybe your can try remove the third party application Mighty Backup. After i removed it all my sms (in phone memory) never been deleted even the phone restarted automatically or turning off because of low battery. It always there! :)

i'm using TwinMOS mmc... but i guess the speed is still tolerable.

and how to remove the Mighty Backup u mentioned? but what does it do in the first place?

thanks!

remove mighty backup

Hello :)

Mighty Backup is a 3rd party application that allows you to backup your phonebook to an online server. You can access it, using a password, via a computer and modify it, add entries, delete them, etc and load it back onto the phone. The service is free for one year after activation. (www.mightybackup.com)

I had this removed from my boyfriend's phone prior to it being flashed for the first time, and it did not make any difference with the SMS. How could it? Mighty Backup does nothing as long as you don't want it to do something, and if that is the case, all it does is create a GPRS connection and upload your phonebook to that web server. Period. It won't touch the SMS memory in any way.

You can remove it, should you wish so, simply via the "Manager" application. That is in menu-tools and in there you find a list of all applications installed in your phone and MMC. You can easily remove it from there.

Kind regards.....

your Thanh

Hello :)

Mighty Backup is a 3rd party application that allows you to backup your phonebook to an online server. You can access it, using a password, via a computer and modify it, add entries, delete them, etc and load it back onto the phone. The service is free for one year after activation. (www.mightybackup.com)

I had this removed from my boyfriend's phone prior to it being flashed for the first time, and it did not make any difference with the SMS. How could it? Mighty Backup does nothing as long as you don't want it to do something, and if that is the case, all it does is create a GPRS connection and upload your phonebook to that web server. Period. It won't touch the SMS memory in any way.

You can remove it, should you wish so, simply via the "Manager" application. That is in menu-tools and in there you find a list of all applications installed in your phone and MMC. You can easily remove it from there.

Kind regards.....

your Thanh


are you sure?maybe when the phone being flash,they put it back.So far everyone that used this method had claimed that it works well including me, :)

yes,it theory it has nothing to do with sms.However,after removing it your will see that your sms stord in the inbox will always been there.No matter if your phone hang,restarted automatically or being turn off.who knows about the situation 'inside' there? :D

why need to use Mighty Backup when your can easily stored/saved all your contacts to the pc and it's free compared to gprs? :D

Hello :)

Congratulation that it worked for you :) But if you read my post completely... i already mentioned... even after ununstalling it, the SMS still disappeared. That's why i say, it's nothing to do with MightyBackup.

And i can NOT back it up to PC - because the PC Suite that was delivered with the phone refuses to run on my XP-SP2, it only fires error messages. An older PC Suite which works on the PC does not work with the 6260.

However now i DO backup to MMC and to PC :) Tricky but i can do it :)

Kind regards....

your Thanh

sorry to hear that.the pc suite seems to work well on my XP, :)


if you want to save messages to pc,i've one good software to introduce.Use MsgSaver.You can send directly to pc using bluetooth,dk2 cable or infared.the message will the stored in the pc in txt format.Easy and fast, :D

(real problem solution here - could this thread be sticky?)


Hello :)

Being stunned by Nokia's ability to destroy my boyfriend's SMS that i sent him, i looked for a solution. A friend of mine in italy (i'm myself in Thailand so this is int'l teamwork) today named me an application yet he wasn't sure if it would work.

I googled for hours and finally was able to find and download the really small (TWO kilobytes!!) thingy, and install it on my boyfriend's 6260.

IT WORKS!!!!

Here is what you need to do:

Download the attachment to this thread. (To the moderators: the attached ZIP file contains "MSdriveE.sis" which is NOT a crack/copy/warez but a freeware which only is DAMN hard to find!)

Unzip the file, you will find "MSdriveE.sis". Put this on your 6260 by means of bluetooth, IrDA or directly to MMC via MMC reader device. DO NOT INSTALL JUST YET!

Make sure the file is on MMC! Do not keep it in messages inbox, move it from there using a file manager like fExplorer (freeware, google it).

Take a note of your message centre number (messaging - options - settings - text message - message centre in use) because it will be needed.

THEN install the small application from drive e, using the file manager software. Install it to MMC only!

Afterwards, in menu you will find a new application, "MSdriveE". Run it ONCE (!!!), it will seemingly do nothing and just exit after about 30 seconds. BUT........

NOW YOUR MESSAGES ARE SET TO MMC USE!!!!!! As the MMC card icon on top, when inside the "Messaging" menu, will confirm.

Now, before you can send SMS, you will need to re-input your message centre number, because it has been deleted. You will also need to tell MMS settings again which access point to use. AND all your stored messages will have seemingly disappeared - it happens only this one time and NEVER again, believe me. They are still there by the way, but in the phone memory, and can no longer be accessed.

Now, opposed to 3650 an d the like, you can NOT switch between phone and MMC memory - it is MMC only from now on. To get back to phone, you need to take the MMC out and reboot the phone without MMC. Upon entering the "Messaging" menu, it will switch to phone memory. To get back to MMC, simply run MSdriveE application again.

Kindest regards.....

your Thanh




*********YOU ARE JUST AMAZING*********** I HAD HEARD ABOUT THE FILE BUT COULDNT FIND IT ANYWHERE.. ANDFILE TRNASFER TO MY NGAGE WAS A MAJOR PAIN NOW IT WORKKS PERFECTLY FINE.. THANX AGAIN,.....

Hi,sorry i dont know how to move the MSdriveE.sis using a file manager like fExplorer..i use a bluetooth to send over the file.. please help..thanks

Hello :)

That is very easy.... locate the file (it's supposed to be in c:\system\mail\.... somewhere, search for it using the file manager. Then select "cut" from the options menu of the file manager. Then navigate to the root of drive e: and select "paste" from the options menu - done :)

Kind regards....

your Thanh

Thanks..but i already just install it..its work fine..hahha no problem rite? ;)

everything works fine rite but can u, after being installed the program n all teh messages are in mmc, put em back in the phone memory so in other words can u change the directories wenever u want or wen u installed it thats it it has to be in the mmc?

Hello :)

Please read in my initial post.... after setting to MMC, it is "MMC only". You can go back to phone memory with a trick, but the messages saved in MMC stay there and you can not copy them to phone memory.

To get back to phone memory:

1) turn phone off.
2) remove MMC card
3) turn phone on
4) enter "Messaging" menu - phone will reset it to "Phone memory"
5) exit menu
6) turn phone off
7) insert MMC
8) restart phone

Now it's phone memory again. If you want to again change to MMC, just run MSdriveE once again.

Kind regards.....

your Thanh

Hello :)

Please read in my initial post.... after setting to MMC, it is "MMC only". You can go back to phone memory with a trick, but the messages saved in MMC stay there and you can not copy them to phone memory.

To get back to phone memory:

1) turn phone off.
2) remove MMC card
3) turn phone on
4) enter "Messaging" menu - phone will reset it to "Phone memory"
5) exit menu
6) turn phone off
7) insert MMC
8) restart phone

Now it's phone memory again. If you want to again change to MMC, just run MSdriveE once again.

Kind regards.....

your Thanh

thank you =)

Hello :)

It is my pleasure to use my limited knowledge to help :)

Kindest regards....

your Thanh

thank you very much this is what has been buggin me for the last couple of weeks for my friends and my sisters phone the 3230 has the same problem

just a thought, for those who dont want to lose their msgs that are saved on the phone memory trying backing them up using this program and i dont know though if it can restore them after u run that msdrive application
http://www.symbianware.com/product.php?id=messagestorer60&pl=n6600

No offence or critisism ... but i used to use message storer b4 .. and believe me .. the way messages r stored .. its like junk alphabets put together ...

Just a lil Boredom experiment and this is what i come up with .. D'load Oxygen Phone Manager .. now i guess if people using message storer would also use a bluetooth to transfer em right ? .. so all u have to do is install OPM .. and configure it to connect through bluetooth .. send a .sis file to your phone that creates a connection between the software and your phone .. and voila your connected ...
I rather not bother with gettin a full version .. if i wont be using all the options .. but the only options that i use is :

1) Read all contacts : and save as OPM file or a text file for later use ( BACKUP )
2) Read all Inbox & Outbox messages : and select all and save in one file ...

You would be surprised to see the order and tidyness of this software when it save all smses and contacts in a file ..

Hope this helps a few neatness lovin ppl :tongue:

Thankx ..

yeah i use that program its tight as hell, cant wait though until it supports the 6680

Same problem for 7710 where you can't configure messages on MMC.
Do you think the same little program can work on 7710??

Plus.. does anybody using Hoxygen program know if you can copy the messages database form a telephone (i.e. 6600) on the PC and then transfer all this to another telephone, in order to move all the SMS/MMS from one telephone to the other?

Thanks, bye

been googling this for ages for my 6260.... just posting to say many thanks for the file, its solved a lot of problems!

Thank A Lot

Thanks. My little bro asks me to find this file on Internet. He is using N-Gage. I don't know that N-Gage also face the same problem.

i'll save all my sms to MMC by using msvdrivee, the problems is when someone sending me a file or pictures i can't see it on my mailbox *i'm sing file manager*, the only way to trace the files or pictures is by going to e/system/mail and copy folder 00001001_S, so is there any solution or other file manager to solve this problem?, its really annoyed me, thanks =)

I saved all my sms to MMC by using msvdrivee, the problems is when someone sending me a file or pictures via bluetooth i can't see it on my mailbox in the file manager, the only way to see the files or pictures is by going to e/system/mail and copy folder 00001001_S and paste it to the mailbox, so is there any solution or other file manager to solve this problem?, its really annoyed me, thanks =)