Just wondering how long ppl are prepared to hang around for this phone before starting to look at other options? could well be the same delay as for the sx1. also, im sure the 6230 will scoop up some of sendo's potential customers if released prior to sendo x.

Forever practicaly!
I have bought the n-gage as a temp adn it suits me fine. I do most of my program testing on the n-gage so when i get sendo-x i have some ready made programs for it.

Like all fickle customers, I'll wait until something better beats it to the market. Getting a bit fed up of all the non commital "we expect to ship sometime next month" statements tho :mad:

If the Sendo X is a reliable, quality product, it will instantly become the premier Series 60 mobile. I'll give Sendo until the end of the year to sell it through T-Mobile USA.

Arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I can not wait much longer.
Expansys has the SX1 and it's looking very attractive now..
A friend at T-Mobile say it has not even been given a date for release by T-Mobile and their current release schedule goes up to April....

Pleeeeeese some one tell me the wait is nearly over..

I'm getting itchy feet at the moment, my 7650 is dying a slow death, the 4 key is tempermental, the power button has a life of it's own and lack of memory is getting me down

At least it still runs Bemused

Nearly bought a 6600 the other day, but there is lack of Orange stock at the moment

Will probably give them until the end of Feb for something firm otherwise I'm outta the Sendo X race

i think ill be steering away from sendo pretty soon myself, i love the phone but getting sick of waiting. in the meantime another phone has just got my attention, the sharp gx 30. its got all the main features along with a 1megapixel camera!! check it out.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?id=456

is this missing anything that the sendo has got?

SYMBIAN - need I say anymore....


Looks tempting though..

Will

Platform / OS (N/A)

ROFL!

My 7650 is dying slowly too - tempramental keys, occasionally puts itself into headset mode (with no headset plugged in), memory nearly gone...

It's really no wonder Nokia are the market leaders, they've released a 3 or 4 gen 1 s60 phones and a gen 2 s60 phone, when the other manufacturers have yet to release their first s60 to the world at large.

I'm really losing faith in the sx1 - siemens went on and on about making it 'bug free' before release, and as soon as it's released it has some quite major bugs. bah.
Sendo X - will it ever arrive? If it does will it ever get to my corner of the world?

I think the 7700 will be here by then, probably the new communicator too!

A friend has the new motorolla flip phone, screens is very similar to the sharp gx20/30 (i haven't seen a real 6600 yet so can't compare) - it has a vga camera and bluetooth and java games... soooo tempting...

OK I can cope a bit longer now, just ordered a N-Gage from CPW for £99.99 inc shipping, then another £20 off when I send them an old phone back!

and just to avoid taco syndrome, I'm off to order a Jabra BT250

This is crap. Does nobody at Sendo read this board? Do they not realise that by giving high hopes then not backing it up that potential customers (that could 'spread the word') are getting pissed off. Surely someone knows when or if the bloody phone will be released??? I know they are having production problems, I work in electronics and know all too well how difficult it is to introduce a new product, but why give a high profile release then go silent? There must be some clever people employed by Sendo, how come all their muppets seem to work in the marketing and NPI departments???

I don't think we're a stupid bunch (lol) ;) so why can't someone from Sendo give us something other than a bullshit answer? :confused:

Originally posted by evobit
My 7650 is dying slowly too - tempramental keys, occasionally puts itself into headset mode (with no headset plugged in), memory nearly gone...

What is up with the power button on the 7650 ... mine doesn't work for poo ... I have to take th battery out to turn it off, and if I do that, I takes me 30 mins to turn it back on ... pushing the button 100 different ways (and let me tell you, pushing a button 100 different ways isn't easy) ... hands free has NEVER worked well on it ... but, other than that...

The 7650 rocks! ;-) But, getting memory blues, too (well, I have a PDA for more power, but still....) ... The 7700 looks cool, but it's a stylus phone, so it won't be SMS/MMS friendly (typing on a virtual keyboard isn't easy, I know, as I owned a Motorola Accompli 008) ... the new Communitor looks to rock the house ... my friend works for Nokia and has seen it and said it looks cool, but he is forbidden to talk too much about it (or show me pics, etc...) ... but, it should be cool. 6600 is a good phone, but buggy as hell.

I’m really getting fed up of waiting... i've read some mails (from sendo) in other forums regarding the sendo x...

It all comes down to the same shite ... they are don't know exactly and it all depends on the providers...

I’m seriously thinking of getting an SX1, because:

- stereo playback
- usb connectivity
- 512 mb MMC support
- MMC not located beneath battery but on the side

i really wanted the sendo X
- special graphics acceleration (makes the phone faster?)
- flash
- better camera (?)
- 1 GB MMC / SD support

this is really shite ...

excuse me for my language ... I’ve been watching to much jamie oliver on tv here in Holland...

Its nice to see British exports have an effect on other nations behaviours and temperaments!

I think they've blown it, the vga camera in the X is starting to look old, lots of lovely phones on the horizon.

yeah.. i would much rather have had them introduce it at a date not far off its release date

Originally posted by praefectus
What is up with the power button on the 7650 ... mine doesn't work for poo ... I have to take th battery out to turn it off, and if I do that, I takes me 30 mins to turn it back on ... pushing the button 100 different ways (and let me tell you, pushing a button 100 different ways isn't easy) ... hands free has NEVER worked well on it ... but, other than that...

The 7650 rocks! ;-) But, getting memory blues, too (well, I have a PDA for more power, but still....) ... The 7700 looks cool, but it's a stylus phone, so it won't be SMS/MMS friendly (typing on a virtual keyboard isn't easy, I know, as I owned a Motorola Accompli 008) ... the new Communitor looks to rock the house ... my friend works for Nokia and has seen it and said it looks cool, but he is forbidden to talk too much about it (or show me pics, etc...) ... but, it should be cool. 6600 is a good phone, but buggy as hell.

Regarding the power button - it's a known casualty of dust bunnies getting inbetween the contatcts. Try taking the sim cover off and giving the power button area a blast with compressed air..

Nice to hear news of the communicator. Hope it's released real soon, should be a killer phone :)

It appears they've taken the sendo x OFF the coming soon list at phones4u!!! im getting the feeling none of the shops are expecting it any time soon!?!
this phone definately does not appeal to me as much now as it did before!
does anyone know of any decent phones out on the horizon that could compete with the sendo?

i too want to know about these other phones =]
something equal to or better then the sendo
sendo looks to be a good phone and all.. but this waiting is just too much.. or im impatient

A mobile software company I deal with say me the official release in Europe is now planed for the 3GSM show on 23rd Fed.
Which by coincidence is when a few of the webstore have it list as being released..

Lets hope so ;)

Fingers crossed...


Will

I am starting to look at another cool phones too. Sendo really disappoints me as they postpone the release date without any official update news. The phones I have looked into are Sanyo V801sa, a 3G + Tri-Band GSM phone in Japan, and Mitac 8360, a flipped smartphone in Taiwan. Anyway, I will wait till the end of Feb and make my final decision.

(^_^) I have one expectation Sendo will do: In that two month waiting period, Sendo will upgrade the display and camera to 260K TFT and 1.3MP in order to complete with the others.

any phones that can actually be bought within the time length of say.. 2weeks??

The thing that concerns me is the reliability of the X once it reaches the market. There have to be reasons why it has been delayed this long and with no 'official' announcement as to why or when it will make it into the public domain it gets you thinking. I know of production start up problems and also problems with getting the necessary approvals but how do you think these will affect the consumer? Not sure I trust it or them enough anymore, after all they built themselves up with lo end, high volume PAYG phones. Maybe they've bitten off more than they can chew, maybe Microsoft weren't the villains they've been painted to be in the Sendo/Microsoft partnership ???

I really like the look of the Sendo X and would get one if it came out today.

But as each day passes, I will be less likely to buy one since the launch of the new Nokia Communicator gets closer.

They had better get their finger out, or they will loose out as better spec devices are just around the corner.

I just found out these three Moto phones on the web

Moto E1000

http://img.eprice.com.tw/img/prod/phone/1210.jpg

Moto V1000

http://img.eprice.com.tw/img/prod/phone/1211.jpg

Moto A1000

http://img.eprice.com.tw/img/prod/phone/1209.jpg

All of them are WCDMA + Tri-band GSM. Moto A1000 is using Symbian OS 7 as well. They all have 260K QVGA display, 1.2MP Camera, Bluetooth, Built-in Speaker,........... . I really don't know whether I should get a Sendo or wait a bit longer to get one of these Moto. If Sendo is out for sale in Feb, it becomes less attractive and a bit old.

Originally posted by drewdrewbb
If Sendo is out for sale in Feb, it becomes less attractive and a bit old.
me thinks exactly
old news before it ever came out

My interest in SendoX is fast wearing out since it's not available here. Looking at the Moto pics revives my interest in new range of Symbian phones. In fact SendoX is beginning to look outdated.

Having owned a Nokia 3650, I would appreciate a smaller Symbian phone.

Originally posted by drewdrewbb
I just found out these three Moto phones on the web

Moto E1000

http://img.eprice.com.tw/img/prod/phone/1210.jpg

Moto V1000

http://img.eprice.com.tw/img/prod/phone/1211.jpg

Moto A1000

http://img.eprice.com.tw/img/prod/phone/1209.jpg

All of them are WCDMA + Tri-band GSM. Moto A1000 is using Symbian OS 7 as well. They all have 260K QVGA display, 1.2MP Camera, Bluetooth, Built-in Speaker,........... . I really don't know whether I should get a Sendo or wait a bit longer to get one of these Moto. If Sendo is out for sale in Feb, it becomes less attractive and a bit old.

Any chance of getting one of those in Europe?

Most likely,i think they are specially designed for Three - the 3G operator.

Given the delay, the Sendo X really should be upgraded to a 262,000 colour screen and 1.3MP camera.

What about waiting for the Neonode N1 guys? Come to think of it, does it actually have a video camera?

i heard SE is making the SO505i gsm version! thatll be sooo sweet!

dragonetti,

According to the web, thses moto will be introduced in Europe and Asia in Mid 2004 or later. I hope they would be out a bit earlier.

dont know if this has been mentioned before but i came across this little article where the prototype was briefly reviewed.


"The first trial
Mr. Brogan also brought us the few engineering samples to us to have a first trial. In his presentation, Mr. Brogan emphasized the phone was for the professional users, and used aluminum as the material. We compared the feel with Nokia 3650. The design of Sendo X is more elegant and straightforward. It reduces the strange looking feel from Nokia innovation design. However, the size of keypads is too small, making them not comfortable to press. The five ways controlling trackball is not easy to press too. The phone is shorter, but have similar width with Nokia 3650. We cannot describe it as small, while we still accept it as a smartphone. We tried a short time, finding that the first prototype not as strong as its described. The Sendo X 65K TFT screen is not brighter than only 4096 STN screen of Nokia 3650. The processor is not pretty fast. Although we give not good comments, we still remind our readers to wait and see because the samples we tried are still prototype. We really hope Sendo X notice that and can make improvement before its launch. We also tried the Now! Screen. The sample shown to us is not as complicated as MS Home screen, while it also makes a different feel from boring Series 60 interface. "

if no improvements are made, this is sounds like its gonna be one very average phone. (bearing in mind the arrival of phones with better screens and cameras on the market v soon)

im gonna be so angry if after all this time the phone is released full of bugs and nothing like its been hyped up to be.

Neonode N1?Never to be released,just another MS trick.

Originally posted by baw
dont know if this has been mentioned before but i came across this little article where the prototype was briefly reviewed.


"The first trial
Mr. Brogan also brought us the few engineering samples to us to have a first trial. In his presentation, Mr. Brogan emphasized the phone was for the professional users, and used aluminum as the material. We compared the feel with Nokia 3650. The design of Sendo X is more elegant and straightforward. It reduces the strange looking feel from Nokia innovation design. However, the size of keypads is too small, making them not comfortable to press. The five ways controlling trackball is not easy to press too. The phone is shorter, but have similar width with Nokia 3650. We cannot describe it as small, while we still accept it as a smartphone. We tried a short time, finding that the first prototype not as strong as its described. The Sendo X 65K TFT screen is not brighter than only 4096 STN screen of Nokia 3650. The processor is not pretty fast. Although we give not good comments, we still remind our readers to wait and see because the samples we tried are still prototype. We really hope Sendo X notice that and can make improvement before its launch. We also tried the Now! Screen. The sample shown to us is not as complicated as MS Home screen, while it also makes a different feel from boring Series 60 interface. "

if no improvements are made, this is sounds like its gonna be one very average phone. (bearing in mind the arrival of phones with better screens and cameras on the market v soon)

im gonna be so angry if after all this time the phone is released full of bugs and nothing like its been hyped up to be.

Its an old threegmobile review,more then 2 months old,and it was a review of a prototype.

Originally posted by drewdrewbb
dragonetti,

According to the web, thses moto will be introduced in Europe and Asia in Mid 2004 or later. I hope they would be out a bit earlier.

thanx for the info

Reading other forums I see more and more people dropping the sendo-x and going for another SX1, SPV E200, .... and there is always something wrong with another smartphone:

- no stereo
- shite battery
- shite keyboard lay out
- shite OS
- not beeing able to use higher capacity memory cards

...finally a phone comes out which brings a :D on my face...
- shite release

yes ...still I’m watching jamie oliver Shadow12 :)

mmm....

shite keys, SPV?
shite OS, MS mobile?!

maybe the late release will mean that it all works well?! :o

Lets hope so.

The X in Sendo X used to stand for eXiting now its beginning to look like eXstinct!

yes i'm eXhausted of waiting...

Here's something for Dutch-speaking people:


Geachte heer,

Ik verwacht dat we in april/mei in Nederland zullen gaan leveren. Onze klanten (operators of distributeurs) bepalen de prijs. Maar om u een idee te geven, in Italie zal TIM de Sendo X gaan verkopen voor ongeveer 500 Euro, zonder subsidie en SIM.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Marijke van Hooren

linky (http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/19891649)

I don't speak Dutch :) , but I got a hold on "april/mei". :)

Anyways, here's the translation, in case somebody's interested in finding out the availability of the phone in the Netherlands.


I expect that we in April/May in the Netherlands will will provide. Our customers (operators or distributors) stipulate the price. But to give an idea you, in Italie TIME the Sendo X to will sell for approximately 500 euro, without subsidy and SIM.



useful tool for Dutch-to-English translation (http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/translate)


All you peeps who find out anything about the Sendo X, post here!! :)



Cheers,
mihai

im lovin it

Motorola A1000 (http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article5.asp?datePublish=2004/02/11&pages=A6&seq=31)

:D this is a hell lot better than sendo x:D

i think im getting it

The E1000 has a better spec than the A1000.

Now if they could make a Series 90 rather than UIQ version of the E1000, with a 640x320 display resolution, then that could well be the ultimate smartphone.

Originally posted by dabotsonline
The E1000 has a better spec than the A1000.



yes but not symbian

What does the E1000 use?

i dont know but definetly not symbain

What is better in the specs of the E1000?I only found the 260000 colour screen.

Why would they make it Series 90.UIQ is a great User Interface,and IMO what about the most important factor,third party?None for Series 90.

BTW:Nokia doesn't license Series 90.

The E1000 probably runs on Motorola's proprietary OS.

Back on subject, I'm losing faith in the whole sendo x project now

It's been delayed over 3 months and nobody knows any reason why, Sendo have not published any information as to the reasons for the delays or given a proper launch date (just the standard, we are in the final stages of testing and hope to have the phone out within the next month)

Where does this leave us on the whole subject of support for the phone, if they can't support the release properly and keep us punters interested how the hell can they support us when it's finally released

Oh and another thing - STILL no news from any of the UK operators touting it as their new phone

Oh, I ditched my Nokia Pastie (tm) and got another new 7650 to tide me over, guess I'm gonna end up with a 6600

Sendo say that there will be a new release v soon?!

They've been saying that for over 3 months!

They don't give any confirmation or information about it's release and there's no price announced yet, just a ball park figure based on what the Italians are expecting to pay. Oh, and there's a barely readable comment at the bottom of the smartphone page on their website about not yet getting approval for the US market. What a great company.... NOT :mad: ;). They should have stuck to what they appear to be good at, cheap and nasty PAYG phones, leave the smartphones to the big boys ;)

If it's not released on or soon after the exhibition in Cannes they might as well forget it IMHO. My money's gonna go elsewhere now anyway.

but wasnt the SX1 delayed quite a lot?

And I think we wait about 6 months from the date Nokia announces a phone untill it's in the shops

I waited a lifetime for the 3650, had to get it on import in the end - it was another 3 months untill it was in the shops and on T-Mobile in the UK

So I don't think the delay is any worse than any one else.

Thou it's still very frustrating!!!

:(

But Seimens and Nokia don't have to pin their future on one new phone and its popularity within the market. They already have an established brand name so punters are willing to wait and accept the delays and they launch many new phones to the market each year. Most of their existing users will buy their brands again and again.

Sendo on the other hand is a small fish with next to no brand (apart from its cheap PAYG) and no real credibility as yet. I would have thought that by launching its flagship product and then delaying it over and over without any proper announcements will prevent it from gaining any credibility at all....

Release date slipped again today.
Was 23rd Feb
Now 18th March

http://www.celluloco.com/products/customer/product.php?productid=143&cat=&page=1



Will

Why don't ask Sendo just close the company and pass the X project to the other reliable manufacturer, like Nokia or SE?! Mar 18 might not be the real release date as they will delay the release again.

from celluloco.com (http://www.celluloco.com/products/customer/product.php?productid=143&cat=&page=1)

...Sendo X : This New Entrant to the Smartphone Arena Sets A New Benchmark for All Others in the delaying Segment...

:D

Why is Celluloco's price (and for that matter, the US list price) so high?

Possibly because Sendo can't get the proper approvals to sell it in the US so it may never get there 'legitimately'. Mind you, it may never get here legitimately either :rolleyes: ;)

Next week is the 3GSM exhibition in Cannes, one of the proposed official launch dates (for the Italians anyway). I'm gonna get a friend who's out there for the exhibition to see what he can find out....

Originally posted by drewdrewbb
Why don't ask Sendo just close the company and pass the X project to the other reliable manufacturer, like Nokia or SE?! I believe a couple of weeks ago there are as many Nokia engineers as Sendo engineers, all working in Sendo's offices....

However, I've no heard whether they've got anywhere yet...

That's it i've had it.... i just got an deal for an SE P900, if all goes well i'll have it on monday...


this is how I think of Sendo X now:

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/7214H9I62GS/picserver.jpeg

Originally posted by dragonetti
That's it i've had it.... i just got an deal for an SE P900, if all goes well i'll have it on monday...


this is how I think of Sendo X now:

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/7214H9I62GS/picserver.jpeg
lol that pic is hilarious

Yea it definetaly looking like that!

any news from the 3GSM show? if they dont at least mention the phone then im done waiting.

With much pain in my heart ... yeah right... I will be saying goodbye to this thread, for my P900 is here...

Sendo X may kiss my "Urban Grey" (http://www.clubsonyericsson.com/en/products_p900.shtml) butt...

... for now... sorry, I had to get this out of my system

N-joy your P900!

You'll soon get pissed off with that damn pen thing!

for all those people who wants to buy a Sendo X like me, just take a look:

www.sendo.de/shop

Many people was waiting for and official answer.
It seems that it's going to be out about mid-march

Regards

Originally posted by willbrady
You'll soon get pissed off with that damn pen thing!

Usually referred to as a stylus!

I'm definitely not going to buy the X now because the specs are fast becoming outdated. It's just been delayed too long for me.

I like the look of the Dbtel M8, Motorola MPx and a few others, but I'm going to see what other new models are announced and wait until they hit the market before making a decision on which handset to purchase next. A 1.3M pixel camera is a significant improvement over a 300K one (more than four times the resolution), so it's worth waiting for the next wave of mobiles.

Originally posted by 2nr
lol that pic is hilarious

:D

Originally posted by Shadow12
N-joy your P900!

thanx!
The phone is really beautiful! When it's on the cradle, it makes my desk look prettier! The screen is really a joy to look at also!


Originally posted by willbrady
You'll soon get pissed off with that damn pen thing!

It doesn't bother me at all, It’s quite pleasant to get extended functionality with touch screen / stylus (as a former P800 user I know...)

Still... I would have sacrificed that for what the sendo X had to offer. But like topic title: "How long you willing to wait?"

If you are not a havy user then you don't need a touchscreen or a stylus but for me its essential in a device.

touchscreens are absolutely great, much quicker getting around the menus and all. the only reason why i wouldnt go for one is that IMO they can get quite easily damaged. a touchscreen phone wouldnt survive a single day in one of my pockets.

Originally posted by magnificus
for all those people who wants to buy a Sendo X like me, just take a look:

www.sendo.de/shop

Many people was waiting for and official answer.
It seems that it's going to be out about mid-march

Regards

So, another pre order page with no firm delivery :rolleyes:

I'm afraid that "We expect the supply of Sendo mid March and communicate to you in time, when the devices will come." isn't good enough really, typical non committal Sendo blurb......

Not a thing about the X coming out of the 3GSM show then
:confused:

dabotsonline,

i had a quick look at the mpx and thought it was quite nice. but one of the mobile review sites slammed it. and it has less spec than the X ! so its off my list now. unless they bring out the mpx300, with win2003 and itap6.0 ! ;)

what i dont understand is.. what makes the X so great anymore?
in my opinion, the only thing that sets the X apart is the foldable keyboard as an accessory and FM radio
what phones do you guys think should be just as good, or if not, better than the X?

it depends what you are after i suppose. for me the X is still the best i reckon. i thnk the NOW! screen will be great. i love shortcuts! ;)
and it sounds as though the organiser is pretty decent from what they tell me. better than the 6600? or so it seems. plus it has boosted sound.

Originally posted by 2nr
what i dont understand is.. what makes the X so great anymore?
in my opinion, the only thing that sets the X apart is the foldable keyboard as an accessory and FM radio
what phones do you guys think should be just as good, or if not, better than the X?

trying to find a symbian phone which contains:

- a normal keyboard layout (numbers 0 to 9 in a normal way)
- stereo
- MMC / SD support (+512mb support)
- camera with flash, even if it's just a bright led
- good graphic processing possibilities (but still I do not know what the results of this really in the sendo)
- no folding out phones (Motorola, some Ericsson...etc... but this is personal)
- USB connectivity

...and the phone has to have some good looks to, the sendo has lot to offer on this except a proper release...

too right dragonetti:

i forgot about the stereo bit. ive heard that it might have 64 voice polys too?!
think it is def the best at the moment. unless the x700 is really good?

I've seen some mention here of the Sendo X having an FM radio; well just to disabuse you of a misconception, it does not have an FM radio.

But it does have everything else you need.

A few more short weeks and the waiting should be over.

Originally posted by jarold
A few more short weeks and the waiting should be over.

Do you know something we don't then? Excuse me for being cinical but the lack of info coming out of Sendo hasn't really inspired confidence in them as far as I'm concerned. Can you shed more light?

I'm prepared to wait until mid April (renewal time!) but after that it'll be a P900 and not an X that I'll buy..... In fact, having spent some time with a mates P900 it might have to be one of those anyway ;)

what do you want a radio on a phone for anyway?!

im the same, april is about as long as i can wait. i normally upgrade in feb! :(

Yes, you could say I have 'inside' knowledge

The phone will ship by the end of this month to Spain first, don't ask why

Having played with the device over the last few weeks I can only say that it blows most everything else away.

Look for it by the end of the month, perhaps earlier!

Thanks for the info, though without any 'official' confirmation I await to be impressed or dissuaded from what I said earlier....

Originally posted by jarold
it blows most everything else away.

Eh?

Good news about the release date, though!

Well I gave up waiting and got a 6600 this week and have to say I'm chuffed to bits with it!

Sorry Sendo - another sale lost!

have you got active desktop loaded, to give you that Sendo-esc feel?!

here's what sendo are saying:

"- We are now manufacturing and I expect that we ship in the next couple of weeks. :D
- SIM free without subsidy for approx. 500 Euros.
- We will start in the UK, Italy, Spain and France. The US is planned for the 2nd quarter of this year.
- We have made some minor changes to the plastics."

about time!

Good news! I was about to suggest that we all go down to Sendo's Brum HQ and demand that the phone be released now!

Right, I just phoned Sendo's UK office (+44(0)1212515000) and asked when the Sendo X will be in the shops. The lady at the other end said that they have not set a firm date yet, but said it will probably be end of April.... End Of April!!!!

I think those that are talking about 2 weeks or so, and not giving any source for this date, appear to be very wrong.

Did you specify the UK?

It could be out in other countries before that. Earlier in this thread Spain was quoted as being the first place to get them. Look at how long its taken the SX1 to officially come to the UK.

If Sendo ship in the next couple of weeks to the distributors and to the network operators, actually having them in the shops at the end of April (in sufficient numbers) is probably about right, although I would have expected shops to have them in the shops within a couple of weeks (but not in sufficient numbers - and they will probably be filling backorders for the first week or two).

In which case, both statements are compatible, and the woman from Sendo is probably just setting the expectation at the right level.

Either that, or they're delayed again :(

i think it is a bit poor of Sendo not to put a release statement on their web site. that way everyone will know the truth. they said they were going to do this weeks ago :(

Today Motorola has annouced 3 new GSM music phones. It is sad that Sendo X has not been out in the market yet as many newcomers start to promote their new products.

One of the music phones which I think it is comparable with X

E680: New Linux OS, QVGA touchscreen, Bluetooth, MP3 playback, SD card slot, VGA camera, MPEG4 video, RealPlayer, Java, 3D graphics, "3D" stereo speakers.

What do you think about this phone? Only drawback is the Linux OS.

I can confirm as stated earlier that full-scale production is starting and the X will be in Spain through Telefonica before the end of the month

So, jarold, 'fess up. Do you work for Sendo? And if not, how do you end up with the inside knowledge and first-hand experience?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Yes

Well, some of the comments in this thread must have made uncomfortable reading. Best of luck with a swift and painless rollout.
Which office, just out of interest? I'm a Brit, based in Cambridge.

Originally posted by jarold
I can confirm as stated earlier that full-scale production is starting and the X will be in Spain through Telefonica before the end of the month
What about the UK? When can we buy one here, on a network or contract free?

jarold:

good news, but what about the uk?
ta

Sendo only have one office, our HQ is in Birmingham, near the airport.

As for the UK, I'm afraid I have no news on that; Spain with Telefonica is first out of the gate and then depending on how that goes (from the customer/distributor/network) other countries will follow.

We are gearing up the support infrastructure now.

I've seen a lot of comments re delays on the Sendo X. There has never been a 'firm' release date, when people have posted that the phone has slipped again they are basing this on dates quoted by resalers who are basing their dates on best guesses. The phone was announced on October 21st and in most cases products announced tend to come to market around 3 months after announcement, in this case it has been a little longer but the product is a lot more complicated than most.

Please bear with us

i think they should have put a release/delay notice on the website though.

As someone who works in the IT industry I can sympathise. It is very hard to put accurate estimates on how long integration/bug fixing is going to take, even for very simple products. The only safe thing to do is to wait until the product is ready for sale (or at least volume manufacturing) before announcing it. This is what some companies do (Apple springs to mind), but they sell to end users.

Dealing with networks who like plenty of time to gear up to a launch, it is probably in a manufacturers interests to get a certain amount of buzz going before the product hits the shelves. So they're then faced with two options: pick what seems like a sensible data, publish it, and hope you don't slip, or adopt the id Games approach - we'll release it when it's ready.

When it comes to release dates, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

(Just my opinion).

Originally posted by jarold
I've seen a lot of comments re delays on the Sendo X. There has never been a 'firm' release date,

I hate to be picky (Oh not I dont ;)) but the original press release (http://www.sendo.com/news/newsitem.asp?ID=74) published last year it said "Sendo expects to ship the phone in some territories before the end of the year". Although I accept that that is not a firm commitment, I think its where people perception of its lateness comes from.

Anyway its good news that its coming out soon and I'm sure Expansys will get some (probably expensive) units for sale in the UK before the official release. Lets just hope its as good as its hyped up to be :)

personally i dont mind if it is delayed a bit, especially if it means there will be a lot less bugs (unlike the 6600 maybe!?)
BUT, i think they should have kept potential buyers informed of the delays and revised dates etc.
I know a number of people have got hacked off with not knowing what is going on

does anyone know if only the carbon-fibre effect version will be available or the aluminum edged one as well? and why on earth did they change it!?

Anyone know the latest on FCC authorization in U.S. for the Sendo X? Can you give me a estimate on when it will be released in U.S.?

Sendo's site says
"In the USA, the Sendo X phone has not yet been authorised as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This product is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, unless and until authorisation is obtained. "

I'm going back on my word now, and may decide to get a Sendo X after all.

Does anyone know of any reviews of the final production version other than The FutureLook's one: http://www.thefuturelook.com/showcase/?id=139 ?

i have just come back fron spain today... and while i was there i popped into the mobile shop telefonica and asked about the sendo x suprise suprise they dont know anything about it coming out i even had to tell them what it looked like, and they spoke english and my other half speaks spanish so we could not go wrong

I'm not working at telefonica.
They don't have in their lists this model, but I received an e-mail from Sendo last week telling me that Telefonica-Movistar is going to release the Sendo X because they are already making some tests in order to launch the movile.

I checked fcc page and it seens sendo x hasnt got that authorization yet.

I can see authorization for sendo 100, 331, 251 and 551.

Maybe its the real delay reason

bummer :(

from sendo today

We are still testing but we are getting closer.

Marijk

:eek: hmmm....interesting layout

from another forum.....

This has been passed on from our good friend at Sendo...


Thanks for your email. First of all, you will be able to download software updates or fixes. Secondly, to quote your own statement, you do not want to buy a phone that crashes and we do not want to sell one.

Allow me to explain why it is difficult to give a precise introduction date. Smartphones are very complicated products, which comprise many different software modules (the basic phone stack, the operating system, the user interface, various third party applications etc.). All this software has to work seamlessly and without glitches. On top of this, the phone needs to work on network infrastructures of more than 600 operators. All these operators have different base stations, different switches etc. and they do not all interpret the GSM/GPRS standard in the same way. This means that testing and solving software issues can take a long time. We are making very good progress and we are confident that we will ship the Sendo X in the near future.

With regard to the article on the 'engadget' website. First of all, I do not know this journalist or analyst. I am therefore surprised to read that he has had bad experiences with Sendo. We are in contact with more than 3,500 journalists and analysts and I can assure you that I cannot find this gentleman in my database. With respect to the crashing of the phones, I cannot comment on this since I do not know what happened and how he and his friend were using the phone. I do know that most of our internal users do not have this experience. Also, I checked with some journalists that got early versions and they did not experience this.

Again, we will ship the phone when it is ready. We feel that that is more important than shipping it early.

Hope this answers your questions.

Best regards,

Marijke

Anyone seen the May issue of Stuff magazine? The model on the front is clearly holding the Sendo X yet there's no mention of it inside!! strange dont u think?? this phone isnt gonna b out for a while by the looks of things.

I’ve waited since December for the Sendo X to turn up in the UK and finally gave up and got a 6600. Hardly much improvement over my old 7650 but that was falling apart. Maybe I’ll catch the Sendo X II, if they ever get a phone to market :rolleyes:

Rumours are that there will be some news on monday.

Isn't that just the way with rumours :rolleyes: But then rumours is the way with new phone releases these days ;)

I'd like to once more add my opinion that this phone is worth waiting for. I've had quite a long play with (and this was some time ago) and I found it quite stable. I have to say I somewhat suprised about how long things are taking, but I haven't got a 6600 because I want an X.

I was wondering (despite the concerns and worries of all the people on this site) whether the phone will be made available in Australia at all?

Cheers Hawkeye

Hi.

Just had a mail from Celluloco saying they have stocks of the Sendo-x and are processing my order!!!!!!!!
:) :) :) :) :)

I'll let you know if it arrives!!

:) :) :)

Will,be sure to write up a small review and let us know what you think of the device.

Hi.

Just had a mail from Celluloco saying they have stocks of the Sendo-x and are processing my order!!!!!!!!
:) :) :) :) :)

I'll let you know if it arrives!!

:) :) :)

Yeah, they told me that weeks ago :tongue: Even the web site states, that it is "out of stock" & Asian import (27.04.2004) for ~ 730 EUR!!!

The X will be produced in The Netherlands and shipped from their to all the foreign operators and resellers ...

I doubt, that they already got them, since Sendo has not yet shipped .... :D

Great, I was having a good day till now :(

...is this missing anything that the sendo has got?


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