View Full Version : Nokia 6600, the 7650 successor?


petran
16-06-2003, 10:37 AM
Is this (http://mobile.bpit.ch/forum/index.php?s=f8d4b9d1d0bf482a31e1049399d092e0&act=S T&f=2&t=2601) the new series 60 phone we were expecting from Nokia this year?
Rather nice, with all the features we've been missing on the 7650. Although I still prefer the 7650 design. :)

simonbwoy
16-06-2003, 10:52 AM
Phone looks heavy.

Any idea what kinda price range this will be in?

So the fact that its an OS6 model will mean that it will definately be able to have all the same kinda apps installed on it as a 7650?

16-06-2003, 10:55 AM
this is Symbian OS 7 phone!

n1ghtFLY
16-06-2003, 10:58 AM
i think it is the ONE !!! :P :P

and from the nokia press release it says that compatible with Series 60 platform 2 stuff and MIDP 2.0

so does this means the OS is series 60 platform 2 or still 6 ??

16-06-2003, 11:20 AM
platform 2 (based on OS7)

petran
16-06-2003, 12:45 PM
The official press release (http://press.nokia.com/PR/200306/908005_5.html) and some photos (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,33325,00.html?appId=6600).

yourmanlee
16-06-2003, 01:01 PM
Man this phone looks the business!
When can we get our hands on this in the UK?

Cheers

Lee

Jay3gsm
16-06-2003, 01:31 PM
Apparently due Q4, so hopefully out in time for Xmas.

16-06-2003, 02:00 PM
Why oh why can't they upgrade the camera, 640x480 on the 7650 and 3350, I would like to have a higher spec cam. Probably the two things I use most on my 7650 are the calender-to do lists and the camera. Upgrading would make so much more sense (yeah, okay for me I 'm talking about). In my opinion the 6600 look like the bastard ofspring of a 7650x3350 mating. Not impressed.

Rear_Admiral
16-06-2003, 02:06 PM
I wonder what market the pinkish color is intended for... ;)

Other than that, great phone! The first "normal" symbian phone, without strange key-layout or other funky, but unusual gadgets.

Al3xandr3
16-06-2003, 04:04 PM
Great GReat phone. It seems it has it all.
But don't count on that before 2004.... With previoues phones, Nokia takes about 6-9 months until release. At leaste with the more powerful ones. 7650 was announced in Nov 2001 and released in July/August 2002.

But this is an awesome phone. I will replace my 7650 for this one. It's superb. All the features are nice... Maybe the camera specs could be a little better, but with the 65k color screen, it may help a bit. Please, God, make Nokia deliver this baby sooner!,,,,

daniatt
16-06-2003, 04:40 PM
6mb memory, mmc slot, camera zoom, Bluetooth, true tones

a very good looking phone 8)

:angel:

Orophin Anwarunya
16-06-2003, 05:05 PM
excellent work nokia, i cant wait to upgrade from the 7650. :D :D

GhostDog
16-06-2003, 05:06 PM
The 6600 is stalking me today! :) Well,anyway,I don't know what is that platform 2 or 6 or 7 talk,I don't even think such thing exist.

It is running on Symbian 7.0(?) with Series 60 as an UI,might be 2.0.As for the apps,I hope Nokia thought of backwards compatibility,lets hope so.MIDP 2.0 is nice.

Mint_Sauce
16-06-2003, 06:45 PM
Looks funky, wonder how much it will retail for.... ?

PMidway
16-06-2003, 06:48 PM
Looks funky, wonder how much it will retail for.... ?

in the conference video stream Vanjoki said about 500 euros.

Jay3gsm
16-06-2003, 07:08 PM
7650 is starting to show its age these days, I've been playing with the idea of getting an SX-1, but not now. Because despite what people say about Nokia blandness, everyone having one, etc, they just do it so much better. The 6600 is a neat looking phone, definitely a worthy replacement to the 7650. I tried the P800, no go. Just one thing, although the UI is series 60, the OS underneath it all is Series 7? Correct? If so, I wonder if Nokia will be able to:

Have a working alarm when the phone is off?
Implement T9?
Implement Line 2?

All things SE found they couldn't put on the P800 due to the OS, or so its been said on here and many other forum.

GhostDog
16-06-2003, 07:21 PM
The UI is series 60,the OS is Symbian 7.0s.

The 6600 and the p800 use Symbian 7.0,but not same version of Symbian 7.0 and i really dont buy that stuff about not being able to implement an alarm when its off because of the OS.My Nokia 7650 has it,probably the 6600 will have it too.

Predictive text input -T9,is listed as one of the 6600 features on Nokia's website.

What is line 2?

PS: p800 not cuting,i find that hard to believe,maybe you were looking for a smartphone,like the 6600,7650 or 3650 and not a PDA/Smartphone combo,like the p800.

-Edit-

About app backwards compatibility,it seems that Nokia thought of that too so most of the apps already available for Series 60 should run on the 6600.

naivri
16-06-2003, 07:52 PM
ill never buy another phone with that stupid arsed wee joystick clitoris shaped thing on it again

sorry nokia !

i want to play games, after 5 minutes of playing games when my finger slips off the 7650's clitoris

i think ill be tempted to get an N-gage

Jay3gsm
16-06-2003, 08:34 PM
If playing games on a phone is so important to you, then the N-Gage will probably suit you fine. Although I like to play games, it's only a pass time in between appointments or such. (I only have one game, Space Invaders on my phone) I find the joystick on the 7650 very easy to use, much better than the t68 flimsy thing. I'm glad it's staying. Good to hear a lot of the 7650 apps will work on the 6600 too, stacker will still be a useful app to have.

n1ghtFLY
17-06-2003, 12:34 AM
IMO

the jotstick on 7650 is far better than SE one such as T68i and T300 cos on SE phones the jotstick is very loose or something like that

The Party Boy
17-06-2003, 06:04 AM
must have fone :)

yourmanlee
17-06-2003, 08:55 AM
Keep researching this baby on the web and it's looking better and better. I think (as with many others in here) this will be the one i upgrade my 7650. :D
I posted on a different thread about the 'phone and keys in the pocket' sratchin problem like the 3650. It seem Nokia still haven't found a solution to this. Also, no X-press on covers? :-?

Seems a silly question but i couldn't find a spec on how much the thing weighs. After lugging about the 7650 for the last six months, i do not want another 154g phone and the weight will be a major factor in my decision to buy despite all the obviously lovley bells and whistles the 6600 will have. Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks

Lee

Al3xandr3
17-06-2003, 10:08 AM
6600 it's about 120gr, which is 35 gr les than 7650. I think it's about the weight of an 3310.

17-06-2003, 10:14 AM
6600 looks great no usb that would be great for all those who cant seem to get on with bluetooth and the problems it has had but i want one anyway

RoYaL21
17-06-2003, 11:12 AM
it's lighter than a 3310. A 3310 is 133g. 3650 is 130g and i can even feel the difference between those two. only 3g. So it should feel pretty light, i guess.

energy
17-06-2003, 11:44 AM
The UI is series 60,the OS is Symbian 7.0s.

Series 60 2.0 to be exact...

Weights 122g.

whiplash
17-06-2003, 12:03 PM
clitoris?

funny man... what do you see??


:D :D

6600 cool!!

GhostDog
17-06-2003, 12:16 PM
The UI is series 60,the OS is Symbian 7.0s.

Series 60 2.0 to be exact...

Weights 122g.

Thanks for the correction energy,i forgot about that one :)

17-06-2003, 03:51 PM
damnit and i was soo prepared to get a Samsung DGH-S700! ( i think that's the model number, the sweet S60 samsung phone, with the cool twirly screen that i am soo gonna break)

I can't decide if it is fugly or not bad, it looks a bit wide for my liking.... but a S60 with a normal keypad? seems as though the 3650's complaints from some caused nokia to listen..

deathmonger
17-06-2003, 05:46 PM
No doubt this phone is the best choice for someone who's looking for an improved version of the 7650. I've felt in love with this phone.... I wonder when it will come out in stores....

superduper
17-06-2003, 07:11 PM
Just noticed that camera is unprotected competly. scratches and dust on the lenses are guaranteed. Or is there any kind of cover the phone comes with?

Al3xandr3
17-06-2003, 08:34 PM
I've heard somebody mentioning that there was a little protecting plastic in the lens, but from the pics I saw I couldn't figure out no plastic. It should be protected as 6650, but... nothing's perfect, huh?

nk8
17-06-2003, 08:45 PM
it's just that this is quite important,

no point using a camera when it's totally scratched right?

zygote
17-06-2003, 08:48 PM
Nokia are really losing it these days with their phones. Not that the 6600 isn't a reasonable phone - but no pop-port, seriously? :o

They did the same thing with the 7650 - release a phone that resonably aged (not babies) people will like and provide no decent support for using it in the car. I mean even the other new phone, the fashion-accessory 3100 has a decent hard wired car kit. :x

This all seems a bit bizarre since Nokia are trying to sell this as a business phone. Get real Nokia, what the business world needs is a phone like the 6310i with a big screen and Symbian, not a stupid toy.

Before I get flamed... I KNOW that you can use the bluetooth car kit with the 6600 but you still have to trail a stupid cable between the cigarette lighter and the phone to power it, and that this will be necessary since bluetooth has a tendancy to run the battery down much more quickly.

Come on Nokia, get yer act together. The P800 is serious competition.

deathmonger
17-06-2003, 09:19 PM
Just noticed that camera is unprotected competly. scratches and dust on the lenses are guaranteed. Or is there any kind of cover the phone comes with?

Is just like the 3650, I've talked with some of this phone owners and they say that eventough it seems the lens is vulnerable is it VERY DIFFICULT to cause some harm to it.

deathmonger
17-06-2003, 09:24 PM
Nokia are really losing it these days with their phones. Not that the 6600 isn't a reasonable phone - but no pop-port, seriously? :o


What need of pop port do you have??
RADIO? ---> You've got the Nokia Radio headset..
CAMERA? ---> Built in...
MP3 PLAYER? ---> Built in....

The only accessory imaginable could be a FLASH LIGHT.... IMO

Al3xandr3
17-06-2003, 09:26 PM
that's good news!! :P

evobit
17-06-2003, 09:41 PM
RADIO? ---> You've got the Nokia Radio headset..


After spending 500 euros on a phone, I don't want to be spending even more on a radio. It should have been built in like the SX1.


CAMERA? ---> Built in...


But no improvement over the 3650? We're yet to see a pic, but I don't imagine it will be a whole lot improved. We know the resolution is still the same :(


MP3 PLAYER? ---> Built in....


mp3's in MONO? What a waste of time.


The only accessory imaginable could be a FLASH LIGHT.... IMO

True, but the screen makes quite a good light by itself :)

bigdaddychris
18-06-2003, 06:17 AM
6600 is a nice phone but we also have to think that nokia produces phones that we should replace after a couple of months because there is another new and much better phone in the market. i have been using nokia for 7 years now and tried almost all of their models (3810, 6110, 6150, 8810, 8850, 8890, 8250, 7110, 9110, 9110i, 9210, 6510, 8910, and 7650). recently, i switched to SE P800 because i am fed with this NOKIAMANIA.

Kirill
18-06-2003, 08:34 AM
Isn't the radio headset a pop-port accessory. Then how can you use it with the 6600?

n1ghtFLY
18-06-2003, 09:19 AM
Isn't the radio headset a pop-port accessory. Then how can you use it with the 6600?

no u can't use this radio headset thingy on ur 6600

cos nokia designed that for Nokia 3100 and Nokia 6100

even for Nokia 6100 u must have certain Firmware version to get it to work (got it from Nokia's site)

energy
18-06-2003, 09:50 AM
But no improvement over the 3650? We're yet to see a pic, but I don't imagine it will be a whole lot improved. We know the resolution is still the same :(

Why are you talking about resolution? Do you think that's the only way to improve picture quality? No. What we need is to get rid of those VGA-cameras (VGA-camera resolution is 640x480) and put better camera on the phones. Asia already has a megapixel camera built in for cellphone (Waiting them to come Europe).

ebo
18-06-2003, 01:30 PM
In my opinion the current VGA resolution (640 x 480) is quite enough for phone-to-phone messaging via email or MMS, but if you want to make even 10 x 13 cm prints on paper, then higher resolutions are a must.

I haven't still got very excited about MMS messages, even though I have two camera/MMS phones (N7650 and SE T610), but when camera phones start to have good enough technology for high-quality prints, then I'll be very interested. I don't necessarily need 3-4 or more megapixels, but enough for 10 x 13 cm prints.

One local image laboratory recommends following resolutions for different print sizes:

10 x 13 cm: 1024x768 - 1280x960 pixels
13 x 17 cm: 1024x768 - 1600x1200 pixels
20 x 27 cm: 1280x960 - 2048x1536 pixels

Tero

xunvala
18-06-2003, 03:42 PM
N6600 looks to be a great phone but i don't think it will replace my SE P800.

GhostDog
18-06-2003, 04:01 PM
Its not meant to replace the p800 and the p800 is not competition to the 6600 and vice versa.

xunvala
18-06-2003, 04:12 PM
ya i guess you're right.............. P800 n N6600 are quite different.

zygote
18-06-2003, 08:34 PM
What need of pop port do you have??
RADIO? ---> You've got the Nokia Radio headset..
CAMERA? ---> Built in...
MP3 PLAYER? ---> Built in....

The only accessory imaginable could be a FLASH LIGHT.... IMO

Tell you what mate, read the rest of my post. :roll:

I don't give a monkeys about radios/cameras/mp3 players, my point was that you need the pop-port to use the CARK-126, or any other speakerphone handsfree kit which can be hardwired to the car and charge the phone. This is crucial if nokia want the business market to adopt this phone in the same way it adopted the 62/6310/i

Hektik
20-06-2003, 08:26 PM
Agree totally with this!! Although not important for everyone, I personally would LOVE for this (and all future) phone to come with a car-kit connector! What ARE Nokia playing at?? :cry:

Zipper
18-08-2003, 12:53 PM
Well Going back to original subject of 'does it replace 7650' It does... and it doesnt. History lesson here guys. The first official 'business' class phone was a 6XXX Series. replaced by a 7110, that was replaced by 6110. HOWEVER 6110 lacked some features the 7110 had. Then 6110 was Overtaken by 6310/i. So in theory after a lil market analysis we should be seeing another 7XXX series to replace the 6600 aprox 14 months after 6600. Its got these features due to nokias Unsuccesful 6XXX business phone [forgot which 6XXX it was]. but not many people know about that one. so this in theory is a second successor to the 7650 for business use. Obviously from a symbian point of view this its first successor. so after all that. Yep its more of a 'Business' replacment. But it is designed to replace. 7650 is no longer in production. Because of market saturation. so they had to 'peg it out' [Market term for letting the saturation 'dry off' a little] so the 6600 will sell more. Expect prices to be about 10-15% lower than 7650 in accordance with release times. [IE the price for the 7650 initially on new release is about 10% higher than than the 6600 will be etc...].

Hope I made it clear! :o

omar_g
19-08-2003, 01:39 AM
History lesson here guys. The first official 'business' class phone was a 6XXX Series. replaced by a 7110, that was replaced by 6110. HOWEVER 6110 lacked some features the 7110 had. Then 6110 was Overtaken by 6310/i.

Don't want to nit-pick but the "history lesson" is completely wrong.

The correct order is:

Nokia 6110/6130 etc
Nokia 6150
Nokia 7110
Nokia 6210
Nokia 6310

From what i've seen and heard the initial launch price of the 6600 is higher than that of the 7650, at least in the UK. I picked up my 7650 for 110 during its first month of release on a low user T-mobile contract. Thanks mainly to the recent price hikes here, you can't even pick up the dated Samsung T100 for that price on Orange! :(

Zipper
20-08-2003, 11:26 PM
Hand set only price is less. But now phones are not so subsidised by networks as much as they used to be, they'll naturally be more expensive on contract. But handset only. Phone order is correct.. I just didn't make it clear enough. There were 2 6 series business phones to replace 7 series business phone. Then another 7 series came out to replace them (7650) then an unsuccessfull 6 was bought out making 6600 technically second replacement to 7650. If u follow.