All About Symbian - Symbian, Nokia and S60 unwrapped.
The vanilla Nokia X6 is here and it’s almost ready for action
Published by Ewan Spence at 11:39 UTC, January 26th 2010
Summary:
With the launch of a second bundle for the touch-enabled Nokia X6, Ewan wonders just what is in store for the first vanilla device from the Finns with a capacitive screen.
Not the flavour, of course, but a standalone Nokia X6 (without the inclusion of Comes with Music) has been announced by the Finnish company. Expected to retail at 350 Euros (£305), this plain X6 is aiming at the consumer space that the 5800 made its own during 2009. This is sensible strategy from Nokia, but unfortunately has a few flaws that will need to be worked out.
The main one is the X6 itself. The current firmware, as reviewed here on All About Symbian (parts 1, 2, 3 and 4) has problems, especially in Music player, that makes the core functionality of music almost unusable for anything other than very short periods. No matter the price point or bundled service, until the firmware is updated and the bugs cleared out, we can’t recommend the X6.
But once the music player is sorted out, then the X6 is going to be a nippy wee beastie of a phone. As the review points out, it’s almost there as a consumer grade device. The price of the original X6 was far too high, but two changes in this announced package are bringing the price down.
The first is the loss of Comes with Music. To some this will be painful, in which case go get the original bundle! Free mainstream music for a year is attractive, but not for everyone, especially as it adds a significant premium to the device to give the major labels and publishers their dues.
The other cost saving is a dropping the internal memory from 32GB to 16GB. Part of me wonders if there has been a clinical study inside Espoo as to how much music the average Comes with Music owner carries on their phone compared to a regular music-enabled phone, and they’ve come up with a number that is just below (the memory size) one step below 32GB. Only part of me thinks that was what happened – more likely “it’s cheaper and creates a dividing line in our portfolio.”
No matter what’s been shaved off, the X6 is starting to look more attractive at that current price point. The question is whether Nokia believe in it here, and if they’re happy to promote this device when there are other Nokia smartphones that cost just a little bit more, and just a little bit less, than the X6. The range of phones from Nokia that have the same basic Symbian S60 functionality is starting to get very crowded in the £220-£320 market, so the X6 is not only fighting the competition, but also its best friends.
On balance though, very few buyers go on just the price - most target the feature set and fashionable status, and the X6 does have an advantage here. The capacitive screen gives it the sex appeal and tactile levels almost demanded after the iPhone and Android devices on the market, while the almost single sheet style of the front of the unit, with a hint of colour in the trim, is certainly a winner on the fashion front – this isn’t just a phone – they have number pads, small screens and buttons everywhere. Not the X6 – this is a classy piece of electronics.
Throw in the mix of colours now on offer (and much as we may go 'really?', that splash of pink on one model is going to be popular) and you start to see how the device could carve out a nice niche for itself and build up enough momentum to become as big a hit as the 5800 was.
It’s not quite there yet, although two more steps - to make it more stable and less costly - and the X6 will have muscled its way into the limelight, ready to continue the fight for the mid-range mass market device. It’s not a fair fight, and a lot of that is because the device is being pulled back by its creators, but it is straining at the leash. Today’s announcement gives it a little bit more room to push forward, a little bit more aggression.
I’m sure Nokia are just slowly winding up this tiger, taking the time to get it right. That development is now being done out in the open and I hope this doesn’t cripple the X6 before it can run.
-- Ewan Spence, Jan 2009.
Discussion
No matter no how, Symbian is dead!!!
Sorry to say but like it happened for the iPod..they will never catch the iPhone
LOL @ the pathetic troll.
Get a life sad act :D
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6948006.ece
I am not an apple fan but i am sooooo tired of Nokia fooling us for years with that Symbian CRAP!!
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
These are toys for < 16 years old kids.
No matter no how, Symbian is dead!!! Sorry to say but like it happened for the iPod..they will never catch the iPhone |
Just going by current marketshare, Symbian is by far and away the most popular smartphone OS on the planet. Not just by a small margin, but by a huge margin. And then if you look at the installed user base over say the last 5 years, that margin get even bigger.
You can't even begin to compare the iPhones success to the iPod, they're very different market segments. The iPod simplified the MP3 player market in its very, very early days - there really wasn't much competition apart from Sony and their NetMD players, but Sony are often technically inept. The iPhone has come into a mature market thats dominated by Nokia, and they've done a serious job in getting all the players out there to re-consider their UI designs, which has been blatantly required for a good few years (and I've been harping on about the UI design flaws in WM and S60 Touch for quite a while).
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
These are toys for < 16 years old kids.
No matter no how, Symbian is dead!!! Sorry to say but like it happened for the iPod..they will never catch the iPhone |
Yawn.
Any Nokia customer who puts his/her hands on a iPhone for more than 30 mins is a lost customer for Nokia so no matter their market share, they will only loose loose and loose in the future...
Nokia is still strong in the emerging markets or for <16 years old kids in developed countries, so basically they will fight against Sony Ericsson (which has got a better GUI for low-end devices).
But what is more shocking is that the iphone was launched in 2007 and since then nothing close to that came out from Nokia. Google did something pretty good, why Nokia couldnt learn the lesson and **invent** something nice??
Arrogance or lack of invention??
To keep matters short, I can only strongly advise everyone to not by a Symbian device until Symbian^3 or Symbian^4 comes along or to just switch to Maemo or Android or something along these lines.
Don't presume you have all the facts. Symbian is by far the most open OS and has a proven pipeline. It will be around for many, many years to come. The iPhone can't be diversyfied in as many aspects as symbian, which can be installed on numerous different devices i.e. formfactors.
Why is everyone assuming that the perfect choice for them is the perfect choice for all. Shut up you little stalins and hitlers - i don't want your phone .. I want my own!
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Things change faster than you think.
Any Nokia customer who puts his/her hands on a iPhone for more than 30 mins is a lost customer for Nokia so no matter their market share, they will only loose loose and loose in the future... |
I would buy an iPhone myself today if: It had a better camera, it was smaller, it had a replaceable battery, was more resistant to impact (see Ebay for loads of cracked screen iPhones for sale), some of the multi-touch functions had single hand operation alternatives and it was much smaller.
I think I just described a Nokia.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Arrogance or lack of invention??
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Nokia have decided to get their act together, but because of development lag the results arew just starting to appear (see latest maps).
Has it got more RAM?
Has it got less buggy firmware?
If the answer to those questions is a No, then all Symbian/Nokia soothsayers note how the company treats you.:icon13:
Seriously, How can they say they have a 'portfolio' of touch devices if all are just so similar to each other.
Please keep it about the the actual news item.
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Originally Posted by bartmanekul
Comments regarding how bad symbian is and iphone/adroid versus wars are becoming far too common on the news comments. Any further ones will be deleted.
Please keep it about the the actual news item. |
This site is called allabout symbian,then,I don't see a reason why any constructive criticism can't be taken in stride.
You should notice that since your post was related to the X6, it was left.
You can send MMS!
WOW interesting it still has the bald look! cool!
Person2: Wow thats great dude
Person1:No one can beat IPHONE
It's phone for ilusions, because of the ui graphic-puzle floading icons, you made think is promising device, but can't do this, can't do that, forbiden this and that, and all you get for free at itunes is garbage, and if you want better it will cost you a lot of money.
The iphone screen resolution is low and flimsy it hurts your eyes if you ster at it more than 10min, as i found out the only way to continue using it is to wear sunglases to protect my eyes from flimzy screen radiation iphone, and by the way the bluetoth is useles on iphone, it's just hanging with it, that's all!!
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Person1: apple iphone is the greatest phone on the planet,U can call from it now.
You can send MMS! WOW interesting it still has the bald look! cool! Person2: Wow thats great dude Person1:No one can beat IPHONE |
Ok, I've been a Symbian user since the 7650 then a Siemens SX1, Nokia n70, Nokia n73, Nokia n82 and now SE Satio. Still really like Symbian BUT I was given an Iphone 3g 8g. Didn't use it much at first, then I started using it more because it was easier to use the Internet, much easier than the Satio, despite it's higher resolution screen. I then jailbroke it as I do most of my devices, now the device is not very limited! I started to browse apps, and now I'm just addicted. Have tons of apps, some I can't get on Symbian, The only time I pick up my satio is when I'm off out in the evening and know I will want to take decent pictures. The iphone is just so easy to use, not frustrating, it has rarely crashed on me. Nothing really that hasn't been said before.
Nokia was king up until the touch screen era. They used to compete on hardware, but now they don't. They are not competing on software so now there's no reason for me to buy there phones So I switched to Sony Satio because at least it was competing on hardware, but now I realise I'm just fed up with Symbian.
Apparently the next symbian is going to cure all our woes with Symbian but the fact is many former Nokia fans have grown tired of waiting, they have purchased or used a friends Iphone and well, it'll be very hard for them to switch back to a Symbian product.
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Originally Posted by dannieboy69
The X6 is just a slight rehash of the Nokia 5800 that came out yonks ago. Sony Ericsson were nearly destroyed by releasing the exact same phone just in a different form factor or with different looks. I fear the same is going for Nokia, most definitely at the high end. The x6 just confirms that. They haven't learnt any lessons.
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Originally Posted by bartmanekul
Comments regarding the phone are. Comments about Symbian which are repeated over and over on almost every news article isn't.
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Let's be honest; the iPhone is a very nice phone, but it is not the phone for everyone (ie.power users or those needing a keyboard), and is certainly not the best phone in all departments. And as to innovation; the ONLY areas where Apple innovated was the UI and the app store, and no, Apple did not invent mobile email, whatever Steve Jobs claims...
As an N97 owner awaiting V2.1 firmware 7 months after release to get the product to finally work as described I reckon those were pretty bold steps forwards and changed consumers' expectations and tolerances of a device. Something other paltforms and munufacturers seem to still not be able to get to grips with.
I have loaded lots of music to my laptop. It´s been great to find a lots of LP´s what I used to own as vinyl records.
The nokia with internet browser SkyFire is possible to display any flash videos, java scripts and more just like on desktop computer so take a look here about it with video presentation http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/...interface.html
There is BOLT internet browser that is powerful to, it is possible with it to render this web-page in full screen desktop quality and still readable and clear, and it uses very little data download it's because it compresses data up to 70%, and the best thing is with nokia that you can run 10-20 or more applications at the same time, you can use the phone to call or if someone call, the apps you are running there will not be a change, you turn on the loud speaker continue talking and work at the same time with your apps on the phone, nokia is multitasking computer phone, and most wot i do with my nokia 5800xm is multi-messenger with Nimbus, SkyFire web browsing and play internet-Radio all at the same time i just bring in front screen each app i have to interact with it...!
Iphone fun girls you come here and tell us about your beloved iphone a hype price about it, it seem iphone is becoming more like religion for you isheeps, but all i can see on that iphone is like kitchen toy or something like that, otherwise iphone girls, you must come here with a strong evidence to prove about wot you are claiming about iphone, but not just say like that jealous girls "iphone is best" liketerrorist, but tell us how and why?
We nokia community, we know about iphone most important things, that is NOT multitasking, NO flash player on internet browser, in menu internet sites is known as WAP browser, you have to scroll screen all the time to be able to read text on menu web-sites..., it's danger iphone from radiation and danger it may explode in your face unexpectedly that Jesus iphone..lol.
By the way, salute with iphones newborn icupid(ipad tablet) big icupid from aple..., wow wot a jock from iphone..lol. :-D
If a product is crap, they say it's crap. They do not defend it emotionally.
Not like the iPhone users who come here and spam.
Yes, your Jesus Phone is the best in the world. We all know that.
Now go play in the corner, quietly please.
Different phones suit different users.
Personally, I absolutely need a physical qwerty keyboard.
So I cannot use the Jesus Phone, no matter how singing and dancing it gets.
I use a iPod touch, cause it's a very good MP3 player, and I do love the apps.
For a phone, I use something else.
