Is there any way I can change the menu Icons on my 7650?

No.

if you upgrade your fone to 4.37 or 4.39,then the icons will change :D

if you upgrade your fone to 4.37 or 4.39,then the icons will change :D

Which ones, none changed on mine 3.16 to 4.39 absolutely none.

No.

Don't be so hasty with your answer ;)

Something is being worked on at the moment...

I can't reveal any more information just yet, but work is in progress to achieve this.

So the answer to his question is still......no :P

How long till this work gets achieved?? :D

So the answer to his question is still......no :P

Bah! :D

I can't predict the timescale it will be ready....

I think the app will consist of a PC application and a Series 60 .sis file, where the PC app is used to design the icons (or just use any other .bmp) and compile the graphic sis, then the phone sis will install it.

Or another idea is a Series 60 icon designer actually on the phone but I believe that is much harder so it could take longer.

Also, AFAIK to start with there will just be an "Icon Pack" to replace the existing icons with new ones (of course they can be uninstalled). I have a copy of the "new" icons for the original pack, however I will have to find out if it's alright to upload them here first (of course, if you guys want me to.)

Cheers

Okay... here are some screenshots:

7650 menu concept:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=2588

7650 'Tools' (screenshot from FExplorer):

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/files/7650_Tools.jpg

3650 menu concept:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/files/3650_112.jpg

if you upgrade your fone to 4.37 or 4.39,then the icons will change :D

Which ones, none changed on mine 3.16 to 4.39 absolutely none.


ooops sori i mean 4.37 only,coz vodafone made it :)

Okay... here are some screenshots:

7650 menu concept:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=2588

7650 'Tools' (screenshot from FExplorer):

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/files/7650_Tools.jpg

3650 menu concept:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/files/3650_112.jpg



nice shots bro :D

No.

Don't be so hasty with your answer ;)

Something is being worked on at the moment...

I can't reveal any more information just yet, but work is in progress to achieve this.

I assume this is the one being worked on by PsiLoc then? Sounds very promising! The more configurable the 7650 interface the better!

No.

Don't be so hasty with your answer ;)

Something is being worked on at the moment...

I can't reveal any more information just yet, but work is in progress to achieve this.

I assume this is the one being worked on by PsiLoc then? Sounds very promising! The more configurable the 7650 interface the better!

The one I am talking about has no connection to PsiLoc. :)

If you need some icons you can rip them out of my iconpacks from http://nokia.warlocks.be ;)

If you need some icons you can rip them out of my iconpacks from http://nokia.warlocks.be ;)

Great stuff! Cheers :)

This program I want!

Extended menu (the psiloc's program which is mentioned here and is under development) will be like wildpalm's wildskinz, i think. But the program that will change the icons will be working as a plug in of pc suite. At least that's how it looks to me. Maybe nokia is working on it and as i said on a previous thread it may release it as a part of a connectivity pack for 7650/3650/n-gage or a unified one for series 60... Time will tell

will it work on old framewares??
like the 3.12 fw :P

will it work on old framewares??
like the 3.12 fw :P

The icon pack that I'm talking about should work with all Series 60 devices, not just Nokias, so firmware versions should not be an issue.

Let me know if you want any screenshots of any other menus and I will try to arrange it.

Cheers

oh ok thats good
:D

More pictures from my 7650...

Opinions on the new icons are appreciated.

HI!...

How you can use that icons?... how you configured that?

any app for that?

thanks!

:D

How you can use that icons?... how you configured that?


Hey dude, if you read the thread you'll see it's an application under development, and there is no public version available yet! :)

Sooo.. 2 new configuration apps coming out soon... I can't wait! :)

Also just as a side note, I'm sure it will please many of you to hear that when the application is finished, it will be distributed as freeware.

Legendary!

Superlative!

8)

So nobody has any opinions on the icons? :-?

Favourite icon/least favourite icon anybody?

Request for more screenshots? If so, which?

So nobody has any opinions on the icons? :-?

Favourite icon/least favourite icon anybody?


Ok, if you really want to know... The messaging icon doesn't fit very well into the the design of the other icons, I think. The calender icon shouldn't be labeled with "cal" because in other languages than English this would make no sense perhaps... The icons for images, profiles and speed dial all look a little bit boring.
Now don't you complain about me critisising your icons, you wanted it that way... ;)

Btw I like the camera icon very much :D :D

So nobody has any opinions on the icons? :-?

Favourite icon/least favourite icon anybody?


Ok, if you really want to know... The messaging icon doesn't fit very well into the the design of the other icons, I think. The calender icon shouldn't be labeled with "cal" because in other languages than English this would make no sense perhaps... The icons for images, profiles and speed dial all look a little bit boring.
Now don't you complain about me critisising your icons, you wanted it that way... ;)

Btw I like the camera icon very much :D :D

Thanks for your honesty! ;)

Your suggestions will be taken on board for the final release!

Cheers

I hope it won't be too difficult to create our own icons :) I've got some ideas for a couple of sets :)

BTW, will it let us change 3rd party app icons, or just the system ones? :)

I hope it won't be too difficult to create our own icons :) I've got some ideas for a couple of sets :)

BTW, will it let us change 3rd party app icons, or just the system ones? :)

It's really easy to make your own - any 44x44 bitmap/gif/jpeg will work fine!

Unfortunately only system icons will be changable initially, due to UID restrictions.

Cheers

Have to say Im not too worried about what the icons look like, as like most I think Ill be creating my own to go with the theme of my phone.

Looking good :)

Have to say Im not too worried about what the icons look like, as like most I think Ill be creating my own to go with the theme of my phone.

Looking good :)

Fair comment! Also I would greatly appreciate it if you could perhaps PM or e-mail me with your finished icons so I could bundle them up and put them in some sort of gallery - with full credit to the owners of course.

For now, if you want to do that, just send me the individual 44x44 bmp/gif/jpg files and I'll package them up when ready.

Cheers

Now accepting beta testers. Please register your interest here (http://iconchanger.symbian-world.com/).

Thanks to Jordan for the webspace!

Registered beta testers should receive the beta within 2 weeks.

Cheers

I registered
looking forward for your reply :)

I registered
looking forward for your reply :)

Thanks! Yep, I got the e-mail with your details. I'll be in touch with more developments with the app as I get them.

Have fun :)

Just registered, won't be able to do any testing till monday morn tho, as I left my irda dongle at work... :)

i registered as well :)

i got my IR port here~

Registered :D

Thanks for registering guys! I did set a max of 25 and 35 have registered!

No problem, those 35 lucky ones will get the beta ;)

Unfortunately this means I'm not accepting any new registrations right now.

Cheers

J2k, can we change the icons of the folders "Conectivity, Extras, Games, SIM and Tools" and of the our own folders?

J2k, can we change the icons of the folders "Conectivity, Extras, Games, SIM and Tools" and of the our own folders?

Hi there,

Good question - I don't see why it can't be done! It won't be present in the first beta (it is only a beta after all ;)) but it should be ready for the final release.

Cheers

Thank you for your answer! Keep your good work :)

HI!...

We can't wait too much! :D

launch the final version Freewere SOON! :D

cya! 8)

HI!...

We can't wait too much! :D

launch the final version Freewere SOON! :D

cya! 8)

You'll get it when it's ready ;)

... Unless you are a beta tester....if so you'll be getting it a lot sooner

HI! ...

:( :cry: nope i am not a beta tester ...

i'll wait...

i am making some cool icons by now :D

cya! 8)

HI! ...

:( :cry: nope i am not a beta tester ...

i'll wait...

i am making some cool icons by now :D

cya! 8)

Hello,

Sorry you couldn't become a beta tester.

Please feel free to send me any icons you do create so I can package them into an Icon Pack for you so you don't have to do it yourself when the product is released ;)

Cheers

HI!

ok... sure.. i'll send you my pack :D

but! please...

could you post here a list on the System Icons that we
can assign with your app? ..

i mean all the icons that we can create by now... wich are they?

- Phone - Contacts - Images... etc...

thanks! a lot!

hope you soon tell us a DATE for the launch of the App..

cya! :D

Is it possible to convert Desktop windows icons and use them on 7650? 8)

HI!..

no is not..

that's why this guy is doing that app...

and will be avaliable soon... just wait...

J2K!!!.. look... this is the list that i think can be icons changed,
you tell me if this are all the icons to you can make a pack:

- Telephone
- Contacts
- Images
- Services
- Folders (Any)

- Settings
- Manager
- Log
- Profiles
- Apps

- Recorder
- Calculator
- Camera
- Clock
- Calendar
- Composer
- Notes

- Messanging
- BlueTooth
- Infrared
- SimDirect
- ToDo
- FixedDial
- Favorities
- VoiceMail
- Call Divert
- SpeedDial

- Snake
- MixPix


cya! :D

Is it possible to convert Desktop windows icons and use them on 7650? 8)

Hi there,

My application will allow this, yes.

Cheers

HI!..

no is not..

that's why this guy is doing that app...

and will be avaliable soon... just wait...

J2K!!!.. look... this is the list that i think can be icons changed,
you tell me if this are all the icons to you can make a pack:

- Telephone
- Contacts
- Images
- Services
- Folders (Any)

- Settings
- Manager
- Log
- Profiles
- Apps

- Recorder
- Calculator
- Camera
- Clock
- Calendar
- Composer
- Notes

- Messanging
- BlueTooth
- Infrared
- SimDirect
- ToDo
- FixedDial
- Favorities
- VoiceMail
- Call Divert
- SpeedDial

- Snake
- MixPix


cya! :D

Hi there,

Yes, all the main menu items that can be accessed by pressing the Menu key on the phone can be modified, except for folder icons. The folder icons coding is being worked on at the moment, so eventually that will be possible too!

Cheers

Also in your list, you forgot "About" ;)

Hey all,

A quick Alpha version for you all (This is the only version non-beta testers will get hold of until the Final Release) which will change the To-Do icon.

I've released it to prove MaleBuffy wrong that this is not a hoax (in the Series 60 news forum) :P

If you have any opinions, comments or questions, please send me a PM.

Cheers, and enjoy!

EDIT: Alpha version now removed as the Beta has been released.

I've installed it my Nokia 7650 and 3650 and it's cool to see a new icon for "To-do" :angel:
It is using 9kb

I'll be waiting for the next release :D

Thank you j2k.. it's a clever idea.. new icons.... not so boring to always see the same icons :angel:

Note to 3650 users: It can be installed in the MMC :angel:

Note - This version works properly only if you use English, French or German language. If not, the icon will change, but the text underneath it will be in English, not in the native language.

This will be fixed in the first beta.

j2k worked fine on mine m8....

j2k- looking good, got your emails re beta test (and replied), can't wait to see the beta version, the alpha worked mint! :)

Hey all,

A quick Alpha version for you all (This is the only version non-beta testers will get hold of until the Final Release) which will change the To-Do icon.

I've released it to prove MaleBuffy wrong that this is not a hoax (in the Series 60 news forum) :P

If you have any opinions, comments or questions, please send me a PM.

Cheers, and enjoy!

If I choose to download this update. How do I return to original Icons.

Just in case I don't like them. :D

Uninstall it from tools -> manager ;)

Uninstall it from tools -> manager ;)

Thanks

Nice one j2k. Will be nice to use the final version.

Yep, looking good j2k :)

HI!...

Some questions and suggestions about icons and your excellent app...

1. I notice that the icons are shinked on height size to see the label
at the botton of the icon, then when you enter to the app the icon it´s showed at the real full size on the upper left corner... is this right?

2. Are any way that your app have an option to NOT show the TEXT LABEL of the icons if we want?... that could be really a nice option... because the icons was created with that in mind you know... ICONS are IMAGES , ideas , symbols that are telling a name, without read text... if i see an icon i know what it is, i don´t need the TEXT... i really like if we can put ONLY ICONS WITHOUT TEXT LABELS on the screen. Just like we can put only icons on the Windows IExplorer Icons on the task bars. You may really try hard to make this option PLEASE! :D

3. If the Icons that we create are not GIF with transparent BG, like a JPG or any other... tha BG will Fill the Square ? (44x44)

thanks!..

hope to see the Final Version SOON!!! :D

cya!

8)

Nice icons :) good work j2k 8)

Thanks for your kind words everyone! :)

In response to some questions from AEFOX:

HI!...

Some questions and suggestions about icons and your excellent app...

1. I notice that the icons are shinked on height size to see the label
at the botton of the icon, then when you enter to the app the icon it´s showed at the real full size on the upper left corner... is this right?

Yes, that's correct. The top left icon when the app is active is 44x44 but the icon shown in the menu is 42x49, hence the shrinking. :)

2. Are any way that your app have an option to NOT show the TEXT LABEL of the icons if we want?... that could be really a nice option... because the icons was created with that in mind you know... ICONS are IMAGES , ideas , symbols that are telling a name, without read text... if i see an icon i know what it is, i don´t need the TEXT... i really like if we can put ONLY ICONS WITHOUT TEXT LABELS on the screen. Just like we can put only icons on the Windows IExplorer Icons on the task bars. You may really try hard to make this option PLEASE! :D

Yes, sure...a text-free pack should be no problem ;)


3. If the Icons that we create are not GIF with transparent BG, like a JPG or any other... tha BG will Fill the Square ? (44x44)

I'm not quite sure what you mean here...do you mean how can you make the icon background transparent? If so, just make the area you want transparent bright pink (RGB 255,0,255 - HEX FF00FF)

thanks!..

No problem ;)

hope to see the Final Version SOON!!! :D

Not long to wait :D

cya!

8)

Byeeeeeee :)

Looking really great!!! :o WhoooaaAAAaa!
I have only one question: How much space final version needs/takes?

Edit: Typo

HI!..

i think that the space will be depends on the amount of Icons you wanna change.. don't you? J2K?...

I know how to make transparent icons... but.. my question is
about that we don't need transparent icon all the time?.. i mean can be non transparent BG icons too right? ...

And one more thing to get clear... you said that we can put
icons without text labels... what is the best size for an icon pack for that?
44 x 44 too?... how much space use the TEXT LABELS?.. and then what is the Full Size Icon there? (without text labels)

Thanks! A LOT! :D

cya! :D

Yes I know that it depends how many icons you have ;) ... But how big is the "core" of the prog whitout any icos? Not much I think (I hope)...
Icons itselfs won't take too much of space.

Approximately 10kb per icon. (That includes the icon file, which is 2kb each)

HI!..

i think that the space will be depends on the amount of Icons you wanna change.. don't you? J2K?...

I know how to make transparent icons... but.. my question is
about that we don't need transparent icon all the time?.. i mean can be non transparent BG icons too right? ...


Yes, you can use non-transparent icons too.

And one more thing to get clear... you said that we can put
icons without text labels... what is the best size for an icon pack for that?
44 x 44 too?... how much space use the TEXT LABELS?.. and then what is the Full Size Icon there? (without text labels)

It will still be 44x44 (for the top left icon) and 29x44 (for the menu icon), with or without text.

cya! :D

Bye bye

I think there could be an option which makes the icons transparent except the higlighted one (the one that you are on at the menu)

Approximately 10kb per icon. (That includes the icon file, which is 2kb each)


mmh... i have see that your's app make a todo.app file. this is 9kb.

so when Sdoubler compress an app, it make an file less to 300b that "call" sboubler. i think like a ".bat" file in ms-dos system.

my question is, can you change todo.app in a smal file?
thank you


sorry 4 my very bad english

is my name down as a beta tester? i registered a while back

is my name down as a beta tester? i registered a while back

Yes you are.

Is it possible to make Animated Icons ? :D many years ago i saw 1 of my friend's IBM computer,the desktop icon is animating 8) i wonder is it possible to do it on symbian phone?

Is it possible to make Animated Icons ? :D many years ago i saw 1 of my friend's IBM computer,the desktop icon is animating 8) i wonder is it possible to do it on symbian phone?
@yoko: do you really want to have 9-20 animated icons in the menue???
a.o.t. that should really take in claim the RAM pretty much...
for in series 40, animated icons are allright because you have only one per screen.
I would be really fine with customable icons - the SW from j2K sounds great :D

It would be nice if they are only animated when they are highlighted/selected.

is my name down as a beta tester? i registered a while back

Yes you are.

great, thanks :]

Do you need a translator for that wonder program? i can translate that to portuguese for free! see my email in my profile and email me if you are interested!

I don't know a thing about programming... but I could translate your program in Greek if you'd like... :o :angel:

If you need help I don't mind offering it... :D

My email is just below... :o :D

It would be nice if they are only animated when they are highlighted/selected.

Yea, good idea :)

More pictures from my 7650...

Opinions on the new icons are appreciated.

Sorry but I don't think the new Snake EX looks good. Kinda shabby IMO and if anything it should be left the same.. or modified from the original rather than a new image.

I like the connectivity ones though! They look really cool@!

I could translate it to german if you are interested.

HI! ...

lol! :D nice excuse to get any beta version! ...

ok ok .. me too... i acn traslate that to Spanish if you want ;)

J2K .. please!.. Launch the app!!! go go go !! :P :D :D :multi:

cya! 8)

HI! ...

lol! :D nice excuse to get any beta version! ...

ok ok .. me too... i acn traslate that to Spanish if you want ;)

J2K .. please!.. Launch the app!!! go go go !! :P :D :D :multi:

cya! 8)

LooL... yeap it seems funny...
:P
I don't mean that... :black:
I was planning on doing it after the launch of the program... :angel:

After all it doesn't cost anything to offer help...

I like those 3-D icons (camera, contacts) :P

It looks great.....!!!!!!!!

Thanks for comments.

I agree that the Snake logo needs quite a lot of work! :)

Attn: translators - thanks for your feedback. I appreciate it. Please PM me with details on how I can contact you, and you will be added to the beta tester list.

Cheers

HI!...

J2K you can contact me by email:

aeidac@hotmail.com

i was talking serius about the translation to Spanish, in fact
english is not my language :D

i talk spanish, i am in Caracas - Venezuela... so i can
send you the translation of your app...

cya! :D

I could translate it to portuguese if you are interested!

my e-mail: laorzin@globo.com

:D

I can do Japanese if interested.

poyama@bentine-gems.com.au

That's great. After I offered myself to translate a lot of people did the same. So far so goos, but the "smart" brazilian also wanted to translate to "portuguese". Everybody knows that brazilians talk their own Portuguese, so J2K, choose who you want, if you're going to choose some.

But remember that pshyco isn't Portuguese...

J2K where are youuu! :D
Did you get my PM?

I've received quite a lot of PM's - I apologise that I have not had time to respond yet, but I will soon enough ;)

:D
Sorry! I think that you was gone... what would been sad :(

so when do we get to change our icons finally ? are u plannin on a full version j2k ? i cant wait to change em ... is extended menu out as yet . im lost on this topic plz update thk u

sp when do we all get hold of this software ? is extended menu out as yet ?

cant wait..when will this be out?

Portuguese... send me a mail if you are interested...

Levi (Beta tester)

??? :o

Beside changing only the TO-DO list icon, any change in other icon?

any news?

Patience is the key! :)

It's harder than I thought, but it's still getting there. I'm trying to reduce the file sizes, as so far each icon pack will be around 500kb ish when installed on the phone - not bad for 3650 users on the MMC but it is quite a chunk of memory for the 7650.

Cheers

P.S. Translators will be contacted this weekend.

as so far each icon pack will be around 500kb ish when installed on the phone - not bad for 3650 users on the MMC but it is quite a chunk of memory for the 7650.
cheers, J2k! I mean, 500kb compressed with stakker will be around 200-300kb - that´s quite a chunk, but if there´s no other way.... give us that killer-app!!! :D

cheers, franco

PS: if you need a translation in german, please contact me via PN

as so far each icon pack will be around 500kb ish when installed on the phone - not bad for 3650 users on the MMC but it is quite a chunk of memory for the 7650.
cheers, J2k! I mean, 500kb compressed with stakker will be around 200-300kb - that´s quite a chunk, but if there´s no other way.... give us that killer-app!!! :D

cheers, franco

PS: if you need a translation in german, please contact me via PN

You can't compress an application in use, can you?

You can't compress an application in use, can you?
:oops: you´re probably right - to use that app you have to run it all the time or maybe even to put it into an autostart-applikation...
so j2k, please keep on working .... ;)

Icon Changer does not install an application that is always running on your phone. ;) So theoretically Stacker/Space Doubler should be able to compress it.

Cheers

So your app could be removed, leaving just the pack of icons?

Or is it too much to ask to be able to configure a "personalised", hence limited pack on the PC?

Paul

There's some confusion going on -- Icon Changer itself is a PC (Windows) program, NOT Symbian. All that is installed on the Symbian phone are the actual icons themselves and a little executable that you need not worry about as it does not change, this simply makes the C: (or E:) files route through the Z:.

So yes you CAN make your own icon packs, that's the whole point of it!

Cheers

There's some confusion going on -- Icon Changer itself is a PC (Windows) program, NOT Symbian. All that is installed on the Symbian phone are the actual icons themselves and a little executable that you need not worry about as it does not change, this simply makes the C: (or E:) files route through the Z:.

So yes you CAN make your own icon packs, that's the whole point of it!

Cheers

???

well, IMHO I thought that the only apps that could be installed on series60 were symbian-based ones (*.sis) or midp1.0-based ones (*.jar).

so, if the icons are no sis-files they have to be jars and would all (?) appear under "programs" ???

There's some confusion going on -- Icon Changer itself is a PC (Windows) program, NOT Symbian. All that is installed on the Symbian phone are the actual icons themselves and a little executable that you need not worry about as it does not change, this simply makes the C: (or E:) files route through the Z:.

So yes you CAN make your own icon packs, that's the whole point of it!

Cheers

???

well, IMHO I thought that the only apps that could be installed on series60 were symbian-based ones (*.sis) or midp1.0-based ones (*.jar).

so, if the icons are no sis-files they have to be jars and would all (?) appear under "programs" ???

The "small executable" is a .app which Symbian detects OK :)

am i right in believing that the beta testing hasnt gone on yet or have i just been forgotten about?

Beta testing has not yet begun, I told you earlier in the thread that your name is on the list and you will receive the beta when it is ready.

Guys can we just wait till it arrives!!!! :D

Let j2k get on with writing it, let it beta and the sooner you'll see it to see what it can do.

Sorry to be brash but Ive seen so many projects die because of drawn out question and answer sessions.

Tony

All that is installed on the Symbian phone are the actual icons themselves and a little executable that you need not worry about as it does not change, this simply makes the C: (or E:) files route through the Z:

HEY !!!! Did you think that this "little application" could become a "killer app" because with it now you can change almost EVERYTHING on the phone? by "routing" filesystem to check on C: or E: instead than on Z: you can now do everything! Assuming we are able to find WHERE informations are stored ;) we will be able to customize everything, even to create new color palettes, change the applications names, modify operator names, and whatever could come to our minds 8)

or perhaps I am totally wrong? :cry:

All that is installed on the Symbian phone are the actual icons themselves and a little executable that you need not worry about as it does not change, this simply makes the C: (or E:) files route through the Z:

HEY !!!! Did you think that this "little application" could become a "killer app" because with it now you can change almost EVERYTHING on the phone? by "routing" filesystem to check on C: or E: instead than on Z: you can now do everything! Assuming we are able to find WHERE informations are stored ;) we will be able to customize everything, even to create new color palettes, change the applications names, modify operator names, and whatever could come to our minds 8)

or perhaps I am totally wrong? :cry:

You're right ;) If you check the thread in the 3650 forum, about changing menu structure, you'll see I have another project in the pipeline which uses this "mechanism" ;)

Cheers

Would a similar app be able to allow us to change the font?

I wan to customize every bits'n piece ;)

me too!

All that is installed on the Symbian phone are the actual icons themselves and a little executable that you need not worry about as it does not change, this simply makes the C: (or E:) files route through the Z:

HEY !!!! Did you think that this "little application" could become a "killer app" because with it now you can change almost EVERYTHING on the phone? by "routing" filesystem to check on C: or E: instead than on Z: you can now do everything! Assuming we are able to find WHERE informations are stored ;) we will be able to customize everything, even to create new color palettes, change the applications names, modify operator names, and whatever could come to our minds 8)

or perhaps I am totally wrong? :cry:

You're right ;) If you check the thread in the 3650 forum, about changing menu structure, you'll see I have another project in the pipeline which uses this "mechanism" ;)

Cheers

Wow! putting faquick and j2k brains to manipulate the phone is cool 8)

Both of you are COOL :angel:

where will this end :D :D

great ideas 8)

hi :)
i would like to change the little lock-icon when the keypad is locked ;)

any screenshots?

where will this end :D :D

great ideas 8)

I hope never Paul. The apps being made now are all things that were previously impossible.

Heck I can't hardly wait !@#$#

I was speaking to j2k earlier, discussing a couple of concepts ... don't be surprised if some very mind blowning apps head our way in the next few months :)

Unfortunately the limited 7650 is being outdated by the software available for it. Let's just hope Nokia come up with a replacement with more memory or I'll be forced to buy a 3650 within the next 6 months...

hi ...

7650 is not a PC you know? ... it's a phone... smart phone ...

I am happy with 7650 like it is right now, all that additional make up
enhancements are not really usefull in the practice are only cosmetics...

The 7650 right now with all the pros and downspecs, still been one of the most suscessful product on the market, because there are people using it no matter what memory it has or not, the 7650 WORKS just fine and right now i am running all the apps that i need and i have 1.5 meg of FREE MEM... so! ... what is the problem with 7650 like it is?... you really need some killer or huge app that is not runnng by now? .. to me the answer is NOT.

May be in one or 2 years we will see some new feactures (really new, no skinz, no games, no icons, no color, etc.), really new feactures that really justify a change to a new product.

I think that will be thinks more like a Mini LapTops :D , to repleace this device.

well this is my opinion, based in what i am doing with my 7650, i know that there are people (more younger mostly), that want more and more memory, to play more huge games, to keep more big photos on it, to change to many colors and many skinz, to play music, whatever, to do thing with theirs phones that are doing at home with their PCs :D

I think that all that are just FUN things, but not really a useful or needed things.

cya! :D

8)

Congratulations AEFox, for putting your neck on the line. Controversial perhaps but (to an extent) true. :)

I would consider myself guilty in the customization stakes, i reckon few could plead innocent but the variety of games for 7650 nowadays is rediculous. I certainly didn't pay £200+ for a games machine. Get yourself a game boy advance or Playstation or something.
Although i can't wait for these apps, i'll download through curiosity rather than necessity.
Please don't think i don't appreciate your work, keep it up, but i just think if your after eye candy, you shouldn't get a 7650 in the first place. A fantastic piece of kit yes, but aesthetics? No Way!

Lee

hi.

in my opinion i paied a lot of money for this piece of technic and i always carry it around, wherever i go.

and yes, its still a phone, but..

i want to get out of it whatever is possible. if i can play little games while waiting for the train: perfect

keep images: perfect.. and when i dont like the look, and there might be a way to adept it to my point of interessts: perfect

so i dont want a phone like everyone else has. i want my phone, with my nummbers in it, my look and my background. not to show around but to make me feel better anytime i have to make a call, even when i dont like the guy i have to call ;)

so please keep on developing apps, there might be a few i will put on my phone :)

greetings from germany, tias

You got something good goin here j2k.Maybe you have started one of those mini forum wars.Lol

hehe, guess not war, but different opinions, and that is good the way it is :)

imagine only one opinion in the world.. would be very boring... and nothing to dream of...

:D

bring it on! :evil:



;)

I remember no so long ago when we all had tiny green screens (phones, not PCs) - now it's big & colour, oplogos, background images, midi ringtones... If you think this doesn't matter, just check how many ringtones, images, colours, games you've loaded the phone with.

I agree AEFOX, first it's a phone, but it's also a acceptable PDA and a reasonable game platform. It's also a novelty, so we're all seeing how far we can go with it.

Anything which lets us change the look of the 7650 is welcome! (icon packs have been very successful on the 9210)

Keep it up j2k

When Nokia decided to put the symbian OS on a phone, it ceased to be a phone, and became a handheld PC.

That's the long and short of it.

Anybody who paid full price for the 7650 and only uses it for telephony and one or two other minor functions has ripped themselves off.

I have to disagree with AEFOX. It is a PC and not a phone. As such I want to (and am/will be able to) use it as one.

I rate the 7650 akin to the Amiga 500 when it was first released. It is truly groundbreaking stuff. When everybody else is using mono-colour screens and dos (nokia standard os). Here comes the 7650 with a full colour screen and kick ass GUI operating system to boot.

I do agree that there is a lot I do with my phone which is not perhaps 'necessary'. But on the same note I'm sure there is a lot you do with your PC which is not 'necessary' as well (don't argue, I know you've changed your backdrop/changed colour schemes etc).

Series 60 devices are handheld computers.

I don't know but i think that pc is not the fancy looking thing like my 7650. Ok i use it for many things like playing games, working, developing but i am not of the people that will have a dozen of screensavers, wallpapers, skins ,etc. On my windows xp i have even disabled the skins to gain some speed. But on my mobile phone things are different. I want it to be fancy, trendy, because i always have it with me and more people see my phone rather than my pc. So stuff like the icon changes or the skins on my phone looks great to me. More customization for sth that is a part of me. It's sth more than a communication tool and something less than a pda, but surely deep inside it's a pc. Now on games? I prefer some classics on it (not 3d and stuff like that), but nothing more and nothing less. If i want more then i'll wait for the n-gage...

This is the great thing about the 7650. It's something different for everybody. That's why I say the more applications the better. Everyone can choose what they want.

:D

no screenshots?

Hi Guys,

Cool and interesting debate. Enjoyed hearing people's views. Keep them coming! :)

Going back to the original subject, hows the icon changing thing going j2k?

note: i realise my enthusiasm for the icon changing thingy somewhat contradicts my last two posts! :oops:

Just curious! :D ;)

Lee

no screenshots?

If you register you'll find there are screenshots on the first page or so.

Cheers

Hi Guys,

Cool and interesting debate. Enjoyed hearing people's views. Keep them coming! :)

Going back to the original subject, hows the icon changing thing going j2k?

note: i realise my enthusiasm for the icon changing thingy somewhat contradicts my last two posts! :oops:

Just curious! :D ;)

Lee

The project is going fine ;) Beta testers should be on standby for a beta release within the next 7 days.

Cheers

I'm gonna start pulling the time and days :P
Take your time 8) j2k

Haa!! Watch out j2k, I managed to change program's names!
Now I only have to learn C++ ;)

That's not hard to do ;) It's only changing a .rsc :P

:oops: It was hard to me... :D

BTW Does your program take backups of those files when edited? (camption and image file)
or are they replaced permanent?

:oops: It was hard to me... :D

BTW Does your program take backups of those files when edited? (camption and image file)
or are they replaced permanent?

No files are edited :)

So that happens when 2 applications have the same UID? I was wondering about that quite some time ago...now I know! :D

So that happens when 2 applications have the same UID? I was wondering about that quite some time ago...now I know! :D

It's a little more detailed than just duplicating the UID ;) But that's the gist of it, yeah.

Yes I know, got it now! Nice thinking!

is this aplication icon changer will slow the phone down too much, is there a preview of size and how many icon packs will include :)))

thank you
and keep up the good work

is this aplication icon changer will slow the phone down too much

It should only slow down about half a second :)

is there a preview of size

Around 300-500kb so far, I'm trying to reduce it though

how many icon packs will include :)))

Haven't counted, around 30-ish

thank you
and keep up the good work

Thanks :)

when is the release date?

HI!...

I told you J2K... if you don't hurry up quick and launch your app...

somebody does...

So... another friend of mine did this app.. an puted my icons...

just like i wanted... without text, but using the text area for the icon... :D

Look this captures that i made to the phone...

is not a screen shot image, because i don't want to somebody take my icons yet ;)

better you launch your app faster... because my friend it's ready
to launch ...

cya! J2K.. :D

Those pictures are fakes. They were "manipulated" on the PC and shown on the Image Viewer in the 7650. How do I know? Because you can NOT create images that exceed 44x44 and can NOT go over text. It's not possible due to AIF limitations.

So sorry, AEFOX, nice try but you didn't fool me.

Please be patient, I'm taking my time with the app to make sure it works properly with no bugs :D

HI!...

LOL! :D

just making my dream come true hehehe! :D

btw!.. it's a nice fake huh? ;)

cya! :D

Wow, You had me fooled! :oops:

Good thing j2k knows his stuff! :)

:o Damn they look real! :D

:D Yeah, it had me fooled for a few seconds too! :)

Ahem. ;)

Beta Testers should receive the first icon pack by Friday at the latest.

Cheers

Rejoyice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good Firday!!!!!

Better than an Easter egg :D :D

I know you are developing an app ... but have any of you looked at what 3G Labs have done with their Trigenix platform ... similar to what you are talking about, but a bigger emphasis on the Operator running what branding image you have on the mobile.

Have a look at http://www.trigenix.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?dev=pc&st=0
Whadayafink?

Yeah, I've seen it. But this app keeps the look and feel of standard Nokia Series 60, just with new icons ;)

I guessed that ... was wondering what others thought of this situation where the Operator wants to control the branding that appears on your device.

Better to be in total control of your 7650.

The operator will no doubt end up find an excuse for throwing a load of charges at you for no good reason. Usually for stuff you don't want/need. :evil:
To be honest, i still don't like the fact you can't play with the Z drive......

C'est la vie. :(

Lee 8)

beta testers beta testers...........bah!!! :-?

anyways.....looking foward to your app j2k, when it gets into normal circulation. i'll pay as much as £10 if needs be. :)

good luck

no -B@ZaNiMe- this app is going to be freeware acording to j2k :))

j2k can`t you rush this thing up it`s taking to long :oops: try to release it that in this month at least .)) :D
and please put here a screenshot of a preview of some worked icons and the ones the beta testers will receive

Anyone in the UK, will recall an advert on TV at the moment with the catchphrase "You can't rush these things, you have to brew the Grolsch slowly, train with the wise master, paint a fence..."

So, j2k, brew your app slowly and train with the wise master. And if you've got some fence painting to do, well...good. :) :)

And remember too, the Guiness ad "Good things come to those who.......wait"

Yes, i watch too much TV, yes i am a student and no i don't drink Grolsch. :D

Looking forward to tomorrow's release. :multi:

Lee 8)

Beta Testers should receive the first icon pack by Friday at the latest.

pulling the hours now :angel: ;)

i haven't received anything lately.. maybe i got kicked off beta testers list?

Yeah, I've seen it. But this app keeps the look and feel of standard Nokia Series 60, just with new icons ;)

that's why i like it. i hope we can use our own icons too! maybe create a "sis builder"?

C'est la vie. :(

Lee 8)

whats that mean? i hear it so often~

It's French for

"Thats Life"

Lee

Beta testers have now been sent a mailshot.

HI!..

i don't get anything on my email :cry:

cya!

Probably because you're not a beta tester :roll:


HI! ...
:( :cry: nope i am not a beta tester ...

oh ok!..

Thanks for been a good friend...

don't worry... i'll keep helping you and telling you a lot of good ideas
to your business ...

Forget the translation...

I don't will use your app anyway... i preffer more mem over icon looking...

cya! 8)

Could anyone make some kind of review on the beta (only beta testers ofcourse :) ) and post it here, it would be apreciated. Thanks.

Could anyone make some kind of review on the beta (only beta testers ofcourse :) ) and post it here, it would be apreciated. Thanks.

The beta has not yet been released :P

Just a few more hours to go though. ;)

When it's released, I'll post a copy of the Release Notes here for you to see.

Cheers

i can`t wait anymore j2k tell me something


the email is cometman@netmadeira.com

:D

Maybe someone has already asked but, what will be the price of the final release, would it be free :) or what? If the size of every icon pack it's "small" it would be worthy to have this app. as it fullfills everyusers need for customization.

The beta should be hitting your mailboxes worldwide in a few minutes :) :angel:

looking forward :D

Beta version has now gone live to the beta testers.

Here is the release note that was sent:


Hello all,

Here is Icon Pack Beta One. Unfortunately it only changes a few icons due to system instability when changing others. I'm working on fixing the bugs, but until then, the following icons have been changed:

+ Menu icon

+ Bluetooth

+ Infrared

+ Modem

+ Settings

+ Call Divert

+ Mix Pix

Apologies if this is less than you anticipated, however I've been working
really hard to fix the bugs with other icons (Makes the phone really really
unstable), but so far no luck :( I've even posted a message to Forum Nokia to try to get a solution, but so far no response. :-(

ATTN 3650 users: It is recommended you install this pack on the MMC, that way if anything does go wrong, you can revert to the non-icon packed system by removing the MMC.

Please uninstall the Alpha Version before installing the Beta.

Please reply to this mail with your opinions, and any bugs you find.

Size of beta: 27kb setup file / 45kb when installed.

Cheers


Thanks

Beta version has now gone live to the beta testers.

So... can I be the first one to post screenshots? ;)

these are taken with my 7650, the program anyway works great on both it and the 3650, installed either in phone or in MMC memory

GREAT WORK j2k ;) and I hope you'll get past "problems" with other icons

Nice work. Looks very good

superb

Looks damn fine to me :D
Well Done j2k! :D

Lee

Keep the good work comming! And let us know when all the oddities are gone or when you release the next version, either beta or not.

Congrat. pal.

from my 7650.

i have copy from z: cf.r05 and cf_caption.r05 and delete cf.rsc and cf_caption.rcs

same for Todo, MixPix, Gs, IrApp etc etc...

so now i have text in italian. :D

but i can't see new menu icon.

i have v3.16

ps 5kb is too big for an .app that only call another .app :(

nice 8)

but i can't see new menu icon.

Eh? The screenshots you posted do show the new menu icon (yellow puzzle)

ps 5kb is too big for an .app that only call another .app :(

I can't reduce it any more, sorry :(

but i can't see new menu icon.

Eh? The screenshots you posted do show the new menu icon (yellow puzzle)

ps 5kb is too big for an .app that only call another .app :(

I can't reduce it any more, sorry :(


ooppss, new menu icon is the "yellow puzzle" ?! ok now.

if yoo hav SpaceDoubler, look a ".app" that it do.
SD make a ".app" less than 1kb.
if you look into this file you see "EUSER[100039e5].DLL SDSENGINE[101f4298].DLL" so i thik it pass some parameter to Sdengine and run application.

if i look into your ".app" file, like "cf.app" kb i see a lot of "Àœåÿ/áð" seem garbage. but i'm not a programmer.

sorry for bad english

Yes I'm aware of SpaceDoubler and it's .app sizes, but the .app here does more than just launch another application.

Cheers

another think,
"favourites" create a small file in c:\system\favourites\
maybe is possible to use a similar procedure. like a ".bat" file in msdos system...

Yes, but as I just said, the application does MORE than just call another application! :roll:

ok :)

That's why there's extra coding in the .app, hence the file size. Personally, I think 4.5kb is quite reasonable for what the application actually does.

Cheers

new version will be when?

No further dates for the Beta Two/Final Release are available yet.

Cheers

:'( has someone missed me out :'(

yay, thanks j2k

Way to go J2K!!!

Lovin it, can't wait for the rest :)

ps ta for the ups :)

Thanks for your kind words everyone :)

Beta One will be released to the general public this Friday. (One week after the beta testers received their copy).

Cheers

Thanks for your kind words everyone :)

Beta One will be released to the general public this Friday. (One week after the beta testers received their copy).

Cheers

Great news, Looking forward to it.

Thanks for your kind words everyone :)

Beta One will be released to the general public this Friday. (One week after the beta testers received their copy).

Cheers
great work my frind 8)

HI!...

nice j2k ...

but what you mean Beta version? ...

Beta version you mean to see some icons that you selected and you changed on our phones? what we are testing with this?, we now that already works.

Or you mean beta version of an app that actually we can
make our own icon packs? ... but only work for a limited time... this
sound a real Beta version for me :D then here we are testing the app.

BTW!.. i hope that the final version make a group called icons or something like that when we see the app list on stacker or space doubler, because i don't want to see a huge list of apps that actually are 90% icons installed. I am sure that you think on fix that too ;)

cya! :D

great work! 8)

Guys,

It has come to my attention that the beta has now been leaked. As a safety procaution, I am now only going to send betas out to the testers who have responded to my e-mails.

Those who have not responded will now be automatically removed from the beta testing list.

I have contacted the ISP of the site with the beta (among other illegal stuff), and I wait to see what they will say.

Cheers

Next time might be nice to mark the betas so that you can see who has leaked it :D

Yep, I think that's what's going to have to be done. Thanks JyriK :)

FYI, Beta Two is coming shortly (with identification) which will change quite a few more icons ;)

Cheers

It's spiteful isn't it. You trust someone to beta test something and they go spilling it all over the internet. makes one wonder about their sense of professionalism.

Keep up the good work fella!

TOMORROW IS THE DAY!! :D

At midnight, UK time, Beta One went live to the public at http://iconchanger.symbian-world.com

Go get it! :angel:

PLS I NEED THIS PROGRAM FOR MY N3650 is this possible?

Yes, it works for 3650 too. I recommend you read the Release Notes ;)

Well I see you are having a bit of trouble. I Hope you get it right soon. If anything else fails....there is always *cough*open-source*cough*. :D

Well I see you are having a bit of trouble. I Hope you get it right soon. If anything else fails....there is always *cough*open-source*cough*. :D

:D

The matter has almost been resolved :P

thanx for this great app.. i really like the new icons. but...

theres a little language problem, all the descriptions below the changed icons are now in englisch, my phone uses the german language and im used to the german descriptions :)
is there any way to keep the descriptions and only change the icons??

thanks again m8, tias

http://www.fuhs-clan.com/feecr(0).jpg

ups, forgot to login :oops:

Hi,

Yeah, sorry, I forgot to mention that. The final version will retain the correct language.

Cheers

Please don't hold us in suspense any longer j2k!! :) ;)
Today is the day, is it not?

Please don't hold us in suspense any longer j2k!! :) ;)
Today is the day, is it not?

Today is indeed the day! It was released midnight, UK time :P

Check Page 14 :angel:

you da man!

There is annoucement from j2k in the news section of AAS :D

thats a right program that... cant wait for the full version to be released.

however, maybe im just being a tad picky but does the modem icon seem a bit "fluffy"? perhaps its just my eyes but it seems out of focus on my phone. hmm

cant fault anything else tho

Nice work!! Will you release the PC client so that we can create our own ICON PACK? :)

The two Icon Changer elements (Icon Packs and Icon Maker) are both under review.

Excellent job done j2k...

Your program seems stable and quite pretty for the time being. I'm really looking forward to your full version with more icons and so on.

One question. I hope that on your next beta, or the final program you will have a new Icon for our Program folders in 7650 (tools, various, games etc). I'm sick and tired of the 2 dimensional it already has...Is that the case?

And one little bug. The Call divert Icon is great when you look at it, but when you enter the Call Divert area, the Icon at the upper left corner remains the original that 7650 had. This doesn't happen with the other icons, they all change...

I hope it hasn't been mentioned...

Keep it uP!

the call divert "bug" is mentioned in the release notes: http://iconchanger.symbian-world.com/relnotes.htm and will be corrected by final release

but it seems j2k is "reviewing" (as he wrote) his idea to publish this program at all :( so let's all support him and tell him HOW MUCH we want him to work and release this program ;)

Just one complain. 45kb for just a few icons? It's still too big maybe, but I'm sure you'll work forward to solve it, wont you? :)

:D :D :D :D :D <insert Jordan's support here> :D :D :D :D :D

Just one complain. 45kb for just a few icons? It's still too big maybe, but I'm sure you'll work forward to solve it, wont you? :)

This is another reason the entire application has been placed "under review".

but it seems j2k is "reviewing" (as he wrote) his idea to publish this program at all :( so let's all support him and tell him HOW MUCH we want him to work and release this program ;)

Heh, thanks faquick... Although the future of Icon Changer is now not certain, I can still honestly say that I created the first ever publicly released Series 60 icon changer :)

Cheers

but it seems j2k is "reviewing" (as he wrote) his idea to publish this program at all :( so let's all support him and tell him HOW MUCH we want him to work and release this program ;)

Heh, thanks faquick... Although the future of Icon Changer is now not certain, I can still honestly say that I created the first ever publicly released Series 60 icon changer :)

Cheers

No my friend. I just tried sLauncher and my god it's awful...

It completely altered my 7650, with bold fonts underneath the icons and on the whole it seems quite ugly... if i could say that...

No j2k you have to keep up the good work. Your idea is much more closer to what thousands of 7650 users want. Trust me...!
I love my 7650 the way I bought it, but I'd like the icons altered. Even these few new icons have made it much more interesting...

i support it!!!!!!!!

I do support it too but i think it can be compared with SymbianWare's Launcher,they are two different apps,Icon Changer,like the name says,Changes icons and its freeware but Launcher has a couple of more feaures,adds a new taskmanager,option for skining the task manager,new menu,option for skining the menu and new icons and in order to use Laucher you will have to do some art jobs by yourself but i think that should change in time with people trading custom made skins or even SymbianWare providing default ones.

I really admire j2k's work,but i dont think there is room for comparison between the two.

In the end,it is a users choice of course.

Thanks for support guys. The program is still "under review", it doesn't mean it's going to be cancelled, but I'm just taking a break from it for a little while, to see how things go, both with Smart Launcher by SymbianWare, and the Extended Menu from PsiLoc when that is released.

FYI: Beta One has just hit 300 downloads :angel:

Cheers

but I'm just taking a break from it for a little ...
please dont ;)

but I'm just taking a break from it for a little while, to see how things go, both with Smart Launcher by SymbianWare, and the Extended Menu from PsiLoc when that is released.

i tried smart launcher and i dont like it. i dont want a new menu, i like the one that came with the phone. and i dont want to many progs running at the same time.
i just want to get rid of these old ugly icons after i have the ones that you made on my phone!!

so please, dont stop, help us changing all the icons that are in the phone. forget about these new menus, they dont look too good and aren that usefull.. just make all icons 3 d ;)

thanx for the good work, tias

I believe that j2k is just making a small vacation or he just paused his work because he is tired. But will come back with many new ideas and development solutions. What i was hoping is to see the developers of free programs to cooperate... My advice j2k: speak with some other developers (like domi the fxplorer creator) and exchange ideas, share your developments. And most importantly take your time, it's not a full time job but a hobby (after all you create a freeware program) i can wait for more than a year for your app to come (after that period i may buy another phone :D). Just don't loose hope because you can at least inspire people with your creations.

:angel: go go go :angel:
:angel: go j2k go :angel:

I believe that j2k is just making a small vacation or he just paused his work because he is tired. But will come back with many new ideas and development solutions. What i was hoping is to see the developers of free programs to cooperate... My advice j2k: speak with some other developers (like domi the fxplorer creator) and exchange ideas, share your developments. And most importantly take your time, it's not a full time job but a hobby (after all you create a freeware program) i can wait for more than a year for your app to come (after that period i may buy another phone :D). Just don't loose hope because you can at least inspire people with your creations.

MemphisX is right - I'm just taking a short break, to see how things go. Of course, with the launch of SmartLauncher, I'm seeing how the Icon Changer can be improved... If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to send me a PM.

... And I've just noticed that the download counter for Beta One has flipped over to 500! Wahey!

Cheers

ok rest j2k but please don`t give up the development of the briliant work you`ve been working on!

the beta 1 is perfect so far whitout bugs

Well Cometman,if you were folowing this thread: http://allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=88272#88272 you would've noticed that j2k is not stoping but cooking up something really nice :D

Well Cometman,if you were folowing this thread: http://allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=88272#88272 you would've noticed that j2k is not stoping but cooking up something really nice :D

Thanks GhostDog :)

I'm wondering now - people of AAS --should I make the "Skin Editor" (Don't worry, I won't use that name and copy SymbianWare ;)) PC based, web based, or phone based?

Cheers

HI!...

I think that you can make a nice full advanced "Style Editor" (You like that name? :D ) , on PC Based...

And may be later a light version to assign icons, colors and easy things with a phone based app. Only if you want to change a few things on the phone...

cya! 8)

HI!...

I think that you can make a nice full advanced "Style Editor" (You like that name? :D ) , on PC Based...

And may be later a light version to assign icons, colors and easy things with a phone based app. Only if you want to change a few things on the phone...

cya! 8)

Great name :D

Sounds like a great idea ;)

Only thing is, PC based would be restricted to Windows 95 and upwards, no Macs or Linux (unless they use Virtual PC or VMware of course :))

Cheers

No Linux :(

Like AEFOX said,you could make a PC based version that will be loaded with features and some lite version for the phone,so that at least we can play with the icons and backgorunds from the phone.

No Linux :(

Like AEFOX said,you could make a PC based version that will be loaded with features and some lite version for the phone,so that at least we can play with the icons and backgorunds from the phone.

Yeah, sounds like a good idea.

I can try to make the application WINE compatible for you, GhostDog? :angel:

j2k is a great cooker, lol GhostDog :) :) :) :)

Yes he is :)

Dont trouble yourself j2k,there is allways VMware,and nowdays,everything is Wine compatible :D

hi guys,

do I get something wrong here, or why are there still some issues coming around in this thread regarding "icon changer" ???

I really honour j2k´s work but I mean there ist "smart launcher" http://www.symbianware.com/product.php?id=slauncher60&pl=n7650 which is definately a lot more advanced than "icon changer", right?

cheers

I really honour j2k´s work but I mean there ist "smart launcher" which is definately a lot more advanced than "icon changer", right?

nope, you're NOT right :P

j2k's "TBA" ;) project will be definitely better than slauncher :D

and "iconChanger" is very different from launcher: it changes icons in STANDARD menu app! that's a big difference!

and "iconChanger" is very different from launcher: it changes icons in STANDARD menu app! that's a big difference!
...changes icons in STANDARD menu app???? what do you mean by "STANDARD menu app"?
I tested j2k´s first beta and it changed an icon (I think it was "favourites" or something...) without changing the name.
I have´nt tested it in detail yet but when I get it right, with smart launcher you can customize every icon and also the icon´s name PLUS you have different skins, backrounds and more...?!?