(C) 'Attention Grabbing Headlines Ltd.' No, of course, I wouldn't rather have a 'classic' N95 than the newer 8GB model, if offered both for Christmas, but there's still a real story here. I argue that there are enough positives for the 'classic' as to keep it a contender. Read on...

Read on in the full article (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/6220_10_Reasons_why_the_Nokia_N95_c.php).

11. The screen is set into the case on the N95 classic. Although the 8GB version looks better having it level with the edges of the case, it offers less protection.

In all honesty Steve do you think the N95 will get new firmware that includes some form of demand paging.

If I was a betting man, I'd bet against it. I'd bet on a new firmware with extra optimisations and N-Gage client and Music store shortcuts, but if Demand Paging's in there as well then I'll both surprised and delighted 8-)

A fun line of thought but one with a serious undertone - just who is produict planning at Nokia these days? I know they've integrated their silo'd device design units but Nokia's thinking is all over the place. So...

1) They need 'clean' upgrades, fading in one model while the predecessor is still available can only damage consumer perception (i.e. how many are buying the classic N95 now who will see the new one in the shop window tomorrow?).

2) Why make two different types of device for entertainment and productivity. You know what the best business smartphone wold be? An N95 8gb with a qwerty keyboard. Why create separate architectures (which locks business users out of things like N-Gage) when a single architecture with differing form factors would be (a) cheaper to produce and (b) opens each model to a wider audience. It's not like the E90 runs different office or OS software to the N95.

3) Model proliferation is a huge problem for Nokia. They need to pick 3 or 4 design streams and stick with them (e.g. Moto) rather than making literally dozens of different devices at any one time.

4) They need to think long and hard about hardware interfaces. The iPhone has focused consumer attention on what phones can do (rather than how they look or how small they are). In large part it has done this by making access to functionality far easier and more intuitive than it is on, say, an N95. With email, online communities and so on such a huge part of everyone's daily life now, making a smartphone with a hardware interface that actively discourages use of its advanced functions (e.g. N95) is senseless. On a standard phone-orientated model, a keypad is good. On something that the kids could use to email and update Facebook, it's idiotic. Right now, Nokia are letting RIM (RIM!) into the consumer space because they don't make a consumer phone that you can write emails on.

As for why you would stick with the N95 - it stands right now as a relatively cheap 'entry' into smartphones. If you aren't sure whether you really want a smartphone but want to try it - get a classic N95. Cheap but easy to use as a standard phone if the advanced features aren't for you.

If you want a business phone without the advance features and QWERTY then you should be recommending people to get the E61.

It's only at Expansys that the sim-free price is just plain mad £649.50 (they wanted £709 two days ago), most other places including Mobile Fun have it sim-free for a much more sensible price £494.95

In the last year Expansys have just really gone down hill, charging ridiculous prices for new releases, shame really cause they used to offer such a good (and safe) service for purchasing phones, pda's etc

Well actually I bought my N95 even a lot cheaper than that... their dumping it together with package deals... if I base myself on that (I calculated it all through, with interest etc.) but take into account the fact that subscription prices for package deals are really to high i'd say I bought my N95 clasic for 350 euros while the 8GB would have been around 550 euros.

7. I've never managed to get the video editing suite to work, even with low resolution and really simple tasks.

Otherwise I agree with you.

Neil: Video editing now works superbly on the N95 classic with latest (v12) firmware. I did a test video montage the other day, pulling together three VGA resolution clips into another VGA res output movie. All very easy. I think this is something Nokia fixed for v12 but forgot to tell anybody.

[Memo to Nokia: PLEASE do proper changelogs for each firmware, they help everybody and will gain you enormous respect]

The N95 8GB is much better. Why? Here's my thoughts:
- The casing of the "old" n95 is plastic with paint. This looks very cheap and within months i a lot of the paint on my device had been scratched off. The N95 8GB uses black plastic - the paint cannot be scratched off.
- The N95 8GB firmware with "demand paging" makes this device much faster and (along with more ram) run more stable
- The screen is bigger and brighter
- the battery is better (still not good enough)

US N95, best of both worlds (with the exception of lack of camera cover)? I would like to/need to think so as I am in the US. :)

Richard, I disagree with pretty much all but (parts of) your point 4. :) In any case, I would say that with 40% market dominance, I would say its safe to say that Nokia is still doing most things right (in particular bearing in mind they ARE a business ultimately aimed at making money). :)

12. it is older than the 8gb...wait that's a negative point! yes it is indeed, why bother getting an older version phone when there is a new better one? you might as well save up more if it is more expensive, oh and don't forget, it's really new phone, of coz it's price is still very high.
come on steve, i thought u said N95 8gb was the best smartphone that is coming up in one of your videos of the 5 best smartphones comparison that i watched

I just want to tell you they cost the same in my country if you commit to Tre. I pay about 50$ a mounth and of that 50$ i can do whatever i choose to do for 40. And the subscription would have been the same with the original N95.

Unregistered, you may want to read (again) what Steve said. He would still pick the 8GB version.

13. It is fully recognized by all operators' portals, meaning that you have full access to TV, streamed music and videos, whereas the 8Gb is a Vodafone exclusive until the end of the year.

Here, in France, you simply cannot get a simlock-free package : the 8Gb is pre-set on SFR network. And if you desimlock it and try to access, say, Orange World, you only get the "basic" version of the portal. No TV, nom multimedia use allowed, until the 8 Gb is validated by Orange, which may never be the case (well, you know, the iPhone thing...).

[FX: Steve sighs as the tone of his piece sails miles over the head of 'Unregistered']

I agree with the video editing suite and the removeable storage points to favour the classic N95. You also mentioned no protective shutter on the 8Gb model. I'm sure I read somewhere that to use the camera on the 8Gb model (besides going through the menu) you press and hold the capture button for a moment. Errm, what if you have the phone unlocked in your pocket? Talk about draining your battery!!

Hey thats why there are plenty of keylock apps available and also even though it happens the camera goes to sleep mode after some time.

I dont know why no-one has mentioned it before, but a major flaw in the N95 classic is that the soft, non-touchscreen screen is unprotected. This means that the screen can be easily damaged by the slightest contact, and therefore that you need to keep the device protected from contact with any other objects.
The N95 8GB seems to have addressed that issue by adding hard screen protection in the case - the same way Nokia has been protecting screens on their phones for as long as I can remember. Why they left this out of the N95 classic, I do not know. Even the iPhone, with its touch screen, is more durable than the N95 classic.

Steve,

#2 is slightly inaccurate. If the 8GB was on hard disc, (rotating magnetic storage) then yes, seek times might've increased a bit (although unlikley). However, because the N95 8GB I'm sure has 8GB of flash storage lookup is done all via solid state manipulation of an enormous matrix of transistors -- meaning that lookup times are _always_ remarkable fast. So fast that the increase from 1 kilobyte to 1 terrabyte wouldn't be noticeable at all, especially when compared to hard discs. It takes aprox. 1 nano second (1x10^-9) to retrieve a block from flash, whereas it can take up to 10 milli seconds (1x10^2) on a hard disk. Thats 7 orders of magnitude!

Thus the slowdown must be due to some change in software, which means its likely to be sped up in the future!

Zach - oh, yes, quite so. The fact that these operations are so slow indicates software bottlenecks, so yes, hopefully something which can improve through firmware updates.

My N95 screen lives in my pocket with keys and coins and is not scratched! If it did scratch and I was worried about it (I wouldn't be) then I could change the removable casing.

Someone said the US version (N95-3) is the best of both worlds. IMO, quite the contrary - it has some of the worst elements of both versions:

- The smaller 2.6" screen of the original N95-1
- No built-in memory beyond the 160MB internal flash (currently the max. available µSDHC cards are 4GB, still less than 8GB)
- No protective cover for the camera lens, just like the 8GB. (This means that smudges, and worse, scratches are inevitable).
- It's thicker than the N95-1 (for the larger battery). I had to return a dock I bought from BoxWave, since it would only fit the N95-1.
- It is more expensive than the N95-1 (more like the N95 8GB).
- Drab-looking metallic faceplate like the original. The N95 8GB definitely looks sexier.
- Late to the market - the N95 platform is getting pretty "tired" these days with the SE k850i, the Samsung G800, etc sporting equal or better cameras. And, what is this about a N96 (w/touch-screen and a camera w/3x optical zoom) in the works?


Ok, it has a couple of positives too:
- 128MB RAM like the 8GB model, while the larger 160 MB internal flash of the original.
- The larger battery/life of the 8GB model.
- Support for AT&T's 3G network (for those of us stuck with the all-to-American trait of standards noncompliance..)

This was a really pointeless thread. There's nothing BETTER about the OLD N95 at all. It has a terrible reputation for crashing, poor battery life, uselessly slow camera, rubbish GPS...where do i stop???

The N95 8GB is fast, efficient and basically addresses ALL of the shortcomings of it's predecessor.

1) the music buttons are elevated and easier to press
2) the screen is bigger and better
3) it has 8gb of storage, prove me wrong but the whole point of n81 8gb and n81 was for nokia to test whether people would rather integrated or exchangeable and according to the latest CMP tourney standings and prize choices, id say the 8gb has won the battle by a mile - i just spent 100s of dollars buying a new phone, i dont need to run out and buy a compatible bigger storage memory card
4) has the new ovi portal multimedia menu
5) has demand paging (i think)
6) has a better battery
7) has better RAM
8) camera is recessed much safer IMO than a lens that could crack - and you need not worry about forgetting the lens open anymore - the flash has more space and so is stronger
9) in-integrated with the n-gage stuff
10) did i mention it has 8gb of storage?

Hi Steve Litchfield. How come you took down the n95 demand paging video from youtube?

Eveything else said and done. N95-1 is CHEAPER. If you have a limited budget or live in a country like India where Network Locked Contract phones do not Exist. This phone can save you a lot of money. (Current price of N95 8GB is Rs.30,000)

@predicaments: No, this was a FUN thread. Do lighten up. And in any case, you're woefully misinformed:

>>It has a terrible reputation for crashing, poor battery life, uselessly slow camera, rubbish GPS...where do i stop???

You stop now, because you're wrong. With v12 firmware, the N95 hasn't crashed at all in months. The camera's no slower than the new model overall. And the GPS has been Assisted and lightning quick for ages, where have you been?

Hi Steve Litchfield. How come you took down the n95 demand paging video from youtube?

I was asked to officially. It was one thing them showing it on a trade stand, with staff around to explain it, I don't think Symbian or Nokia wanted the demo on the Internet in a less controlled environment, for fear of misinformation.

Anyway, most of you have seen it already 8-)

then i don't see the point of making this thread IF you do say 8gb ver would still be the one you'd pick.
i would rather, (if i were u) accept the fact that it is better than the original N95, and save up more and more to be able to get it.

And has somenone managed to make scratches to the unprotected camera lense? I haven't

My N95 classic is stable, no RAM errors, works great.

N95 8Gig has a huge drawback that a mate pointed out to me, if you have lots of stuff on it it takes longer to open galleries and music etc..... It also takes forever to back all that stuff up if you need to format the phone or whatever, it takes just as long to copy it all back again.

My nice N95 classic with mem card means I have none of those issues.

I think those are lame reasons. Most of them doesn't make too much difference or sense. Bigger screen and memory are two reasons, that beat all others up ;)

I agree with #9 - I was constantly dropping my Motorola v635 because of its slippery metal case, but I've not (thankfully!) dropped my N95 so far because of the rubberised back and sides. A return to slipperiness is not a good thing.

#2 is slightly inaccurate. If the 8GB was on hard disc, (rotating magnetic storage) then yes, seek times might've increased a bit (although unlikley) ...

Thus the slowdown must be due to some change in software, which means its likely to be sped up in the future!You've overlooked the fact that the stupid OS/UI likes to index your entire storage space each time you open your gallery. That's what's causing the sluggishness when you have a lot of files for it to trawl through.

Yes, the N95 8GB I have is unusably slow at some operations. E.g. trying to do an 'Image store' via PC Suite. It's only software though and you can bet that there's a firmware update about to appear etc.

Still, yes, another reason to stick to the more stable N95 classic? 8-)

Hi all,

Well i had the original and had no problems i also had an E90 and had no problems, sold the E90 for lack of UK warranty and sold the N95 because i was bored of it. Was about to buy an E90 again but 02 are hopeless long story, so after watching the Smart Phone Show Podcast have just bought an N95 8GB which of course as soon as the new firmware becomes available will be flashed to Generic firmware. I also have a SU-8W on the way and can't wait really want to see how the extra Ram screen improvements and demand paging all work out. Not bothered about lack of camera lens protector as will get a PDAir case as soon as one s available. 8GB is also more than enough storage for my needs especially as until i compare the sound with my recently bought iPod not sure i will use it for Music or not but it will be used for Video's and Films.

Marc

heh. "When you're bored of a Nokia N95 then you're bored with life" (as a wise man once said!)

14 Stuff on the 8gb card will be 'safer' when you have to do a hardreset for whatever reason.

15 Backup friendlier then the newer version.

No, the 8GB's 'card' behaves like a real one. It won't get wiped when you hard reset.

people who say that the n95 is better than the 8gb one are all betrayed by nokia and i know how it feels it happened with me with the n73 and before n70 so i dont go for nokia cus you buy their phone when launched at a heafty price and 4 months later they have a better version of the same freaking phone. but lets face it n95 8gb is the better one thats a fact.

N95 still happens to the the top phone.

I have read that N95 8gb only has a 292mhz processor. go to this link search for N95 and N95 8GB, compare the results yourself.

http://www.jbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp

Apparently Nokia has used a smaller processor to improve the battery life, A step in the wrong direction.

Not true. It's the same 332MHz processor as in the original N95, only faster effectively because of the demand paging of ROM applications.

Wow - these might be good reasons for buying N95, there is one thing that N95 will never have - stable framework and management of the memory (RAM).
Wait for the new N-Gage platform and you'll see your applications start closing because of insufficient RAM...

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I had a n95, I now have a E90 and a N95 8G - I just noticed that I use the later more often as it does almost everything my E90 can do except edit office docs and typing is bit slower..* i wonder why*...lol It has never crashed or froze or rebooted on me yet.....use Wifi all the time at work and HSDPA at home....already has about 2Gig music and 3Gig movies.....guess I am going to sell my E90!...my point is that for ME, there is no reason why my old N95 or even my current E90 is better than my N95 8G....

1. It's cheaper. £375, SIM-free, including VAT, from Expansys. If you have to ask about the SIM-free price of the 8GB model then you probably can't afford it!

king:- i don no how much it would cost in ur country but there is not much difference in cost and it worth
N95 8gb price = N95 classic + 8gb micro SD price

2. Some activities are faster. For example, the speed of disk access/scanning, when updating the Music library or Gallery or doing an Image Store from your PC. In each case, there's a big slowdown when needing to trawl across that big 8GB internal disk.

King:- It has got 128 mb ram and it not too slow as u mensioned .It is super fast compared to N95 classic(undeniable)
how dare u speak abt speed ,Do u know the Ram size of N95 it is 60Mb . What if N95 classic has 8 gig , there is no doubt it will die for sure

3. It's lighter, around 10g lighter, around 8% in terms of overall weight, and noticeable in the hand.

King:- If you are looking for a lighter weight phone then N95 series is not your cup of tea

4. It's thinner, too, by at least a millimetre, also noticeable holding the two side by side.

King :- See the King's 3rd answer

5. There's a proper, protective shutter over the lens of the 5 megapixel camera with Carl Zeiss lens. With your fingers pressing into this area every day in normal use, the shutter stops finger grease getting onto the glass cover and spoiling the next 'must have' photo opportunity.

King:- Do u think the shutter is thing that boost up your image quality
come on man keeping the phone in pouch must solve this issue

6. There's a microSD slot, meaning that you can not only stick in a 8GB card if you want the full storage capability of the newer model, you can also swap files with other computers and accessories with card reading slots, e.g. to put your microSD into a printer to print off photos.

King:- using single micro SD card will different machine bring your phone new new virus
Sorry i dont know that your N95 phone has no USB port

7. There's a comprehensive on-board video editing suite (built into Gallery) - bizarrely, this is missing on the 8GB model and I have absolutely no idea why!

King:- Upgrading Firmware is another feature of Nokia
i think u dont know that right
here is the link
http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4226014

8. It's less nickable. By which I mean that the N95 is so commonplace nowadays that you won't be a magnet for teenage muggers, whereas the black 8GB model is instantly recognisable and, unfortunately, lusted after.

King:- Steve did u mean ,all should buy and love N95 classic
having less battery life and memory than N95 8gig having good battery life and
more ram

9. It has a rougher side and rear coating, giving you a better grip and meaning that it's less likely to be dropped.

King:- it means "it is less likely to be dropped than N95 (classic)

10. Did I mention it was cheaper? 8-)
King:- No u told it is expensive
N95 8gb price = N95 classic + 8gb micro SD price

Zack, yes, the "access time" of flash memory (compared to the seek time in a f. ex. a hard drive) is constant and independent of memory size.

However, it is likely there are more content on a bigger memory, and this would incur a greater delay compared to a smaller memory (with fewer files). Depending on the operations on each file (thumbnailing, preview, id3 tag extraction) this delay can be more or less significant.

I own both the N95-1 (V20 firmware) and the N95 8GB (V11 firmware), both debranded.
I have been running them for about 6 weeks together and have them set up with identical programmes, layout, settings and themes.
I am also, unlike a lot of you on this forum, not overly technically minded so my observations are very much a laymans and are probably more gut than scientific.

So here goes:-

Until the launch of V20 firmware for the N95-1 I would have had no qualms about recommending the N95 8GB over the N95-1.
I was fed up with having to make sure I had closed prog's properly so that I did not incur the dreaded "Memory full" message. Even if they were all closed I would still get this.
I also had to ensure, because of the very poor battery life (less than a day with my usage), that I had chargers both upstairs and downstairs and anywhere else I went as well as 2 spare batteries and a nifty little battery operated charger.

I found myself constantly checking with Handy Taskman, every time I used the phone, as I usually only had 9-12M of RAM free.

This is why I chose the N95 8GB when it came out. Now I had a whopping 80M + of RAM and the battery is lasting at least 50% longer. So I can now go away for the weekend with either a spare battery or my little battery charger. Plus the phone seemed to run faster, menu's came up quicker, the camera opened faster, WiFi seemed easier and I wasn't constantly checking Handy Taskman to close prog's.

I can't explain it but the larger screen on the 8GB looks a lot bigger than the N95-1. By that I mean that I know that there is only .2" (2.6"-2.8") between them but it looks more. Also I think the screen on the 8GB looks less "washed out." It's hard to explain and a screenshot would not help, but bearing in mind that I'm using the same theme on both, the 8GB looks marginally sharper and has better contrast and colour saturation, something I didn't expect with the larger screen.
On the subject of the screen, and purely on aesthetic grounds, I like the fact that the screen on the 8GB is flush with the fascia and that the top slider covers the width of the phone. Again, on aesthetic grounds, I prefer the all black look.

The two phones are identical in size save for the depth. To me this is hardly noticeable in that the n95-1 is the same depth as the 8GB at the camera housing level and then tapers off slightly towards the bottom of the phone whilst the 8GB remains constant and if you lay them side by side the N95-1 is thicker at the top end of the phone and the same at the bottom end, probably because of the lens cover slider.

My N95-1 suffers, as do a number of others, from a wobbly slider and light leakage down the sides of the two panels that make up the top slider.
A lot has been mentioned on the subject of the smaller keys surrounding the Nav key on the 8GB. IMHO they are not a problem, as the centre Nav, Menu and Multimedia keys have been domed, or raised, to make them more accessible. As for the alpha/numeric keys, they appear to be unchanged. The media keys at the opposite end of the phone on the 8GB are now "dimpled" or "domed" and to my mind are the better for it. Much more tactile and easy to use.

The lack of a Memory card, microSD, in the 8GB has been a source of great debate and I must say that on the whole I wish that it did have a removable memory like the N95-1 if only for the fact that I would feel safer in being able to remove it under certain circumstances, i.e. a crash. Of course there are those who say that a seperate memory means that one can put a larger card in when they become available, already there is the 8GB card for the N95-1 which puts it on a par with the 8GB and larger cards are mooted for the future. However, I have about 220 songs, 40 short video's and roughly 200 images plus assorted other items such as the complete maps of the British Isles and some of France on both of them and I've only used less than 2GB on both of them. So for the forseeable future I think 8GB will suffice and by the time I need more both phones will have been superceded. I perhaps should also add that I have 42 prog's/themes but they are stored on the phones memories and I have 85.5M left of 134M on the 8GB and 96.6M of 147M on the N95-1. Have only just noticed that the 8GB has a slightly smaller phone memory.

Another topic of discussion has been the lack of a camera shutter on the 8GB and on the whole I think I would have preferred one possibly. Having said that, I still have to wipe the lens of my N95-1 regularly because of the debris, fluff and dust that still makes its way onto the lens inspite of the shutter. There is of course the question of scratches to the lens of the 8GB over a period of time and I may well find myself in the future having to take it to a Service Centre for replacement.

The speakers on both phones, admittedly to my tin ears, sound identical to me. I never had a problem with "hiss."

Therefore I suppose we come to the crunch question, WHICH IS BETTER?

I started this piece by stating my reasons for getting the N95 8GB to replace my N95-1 and at the time these reasons were, to me, valid.
Then good old Nokia released their version 20 firmware upgrade for the N95-1 and suddenly that phone became everything it should have been 8 months ago when it was launched. To anyone who has not got this V20 firmware I urge you to get it by whatever means right away. Debrand if you have to. It was truly a revelation. It was everything, and more, that I had hoped for. No longer was the N95-1 the poor relation. No longer did I feel that we early adopters had been let down, punished or forgotten. The N95-1 was now on a par with the 8GB. 30M of RAM at startup! They both seem to operate identically, the menu's look the same (except for maybe Downloads and the difference in icons on the calendar folder). There are other small, to me, differences but they are essentially now identical. Maybe, just maybe, there is a very, very, slight lag on the N95-1 but not enough to worry me. In any case, it's a lot faster than it was.

So, IMHO, the answer to the $64,000 question is this:-

If version 20 firmware had been available before I got the the 8GB I would not have bothered to get it. Having said that, I do like the larger, flush, full width screen, dimpled media keys, longer battery life of the 8GB now that I have it.
Oh! and the black colour.

Before anyone berates me for this article I would like to reiterate that these are only the non technical observations of a layman and only written to try and help forum readers reach their own descision on what is important to them.

I hope this helps someone. :)

yes king u r right.N95 8gb is the best phone ever made!!!

yes king u r right.N95 8gb is the best phone ever made!!!


I SECOND that

King:- Do u think the shutter is thing that boost up your image quality

But a scratched lens will? Right! This is not rocket science. Leaving a camera lens exposed is a bad design decision, period! If it was a good idea then we would be seeing a lot more 'professional' camera products with exposed lenses, correct?

What numpty decided it was a good idea to snuggly tuck away the SD card, in fact make it inaccessible, but to leave the lens exposed..Brilliant!!!

King:- using single micro SD card will different machine bring your phone new new virus
Sorry i dont know that your N95 phone has no USB port

Has anyone actually timed how much quicker it is to swap out an SD card with 1 Gig of data on it as opposed to transferring 1 gig of data over that painfully slowly USB interface?

Virus?? I could be wrong here but I was always of the impression that computer viruses were platform specific or have we, and whilst I was asleep obviously, entered the age where computer viruses now mutate from one platform to the next of their own accord!!?!!

If v20 has brought N95-1 to a comparable level (performance + functionality) with the N95 8GB minus the .2 of an inch difference in screen size with the added bonus of swappable SD memory and lens protection, then for me personally it's a very simple purchase decision.

The N95 8g would have been the perfect phone if Nokia had put the 352 x 416 screen like on the N80 and E70. It really makes web browsing a treat. 320 x 240 just does not do justice to such a feature packed phone.

The N95 8g would have been the perfect phone if Nokia had put the 352 x 416 screen like on the N80 and E70. It really makes web browsing a treat. 320 x 240 just does not do justice to such a feature packed phone.

I use opera mini in landscape mode - works like a charm for me

Until you've owned both and use them extensively the 8GB version is much better.

Battery - better
Ram - better
Build quality - better
Looks - better
Bigger screen - better lol
8GB - better (saves you buying one) lol
Sound - better (no hiss)
Slider - better
Buttons - better
Everything else - better

BTW even though the screen has the same resolution browsing the web is much better? You may ask how? Use the # key to zoom out to 75% and you can fit a lot more on the screen and text is still legible because of the larger screen! ;) This give you "virtual" resolution of approximately 427x320 or 320x427 depending on its orientation.

I think classic is better then 8gb version, because there is no camera lens protection on 8gb version,
if your camera lens gets scratched then you wont be able to use proper 5mb camera,
i think getting 8gb version is sacrificing the 5mp camera function, and just using for other things,

classing version is notice able smaller, and silver colour is more executive , smaller screen and no 8gb solid disk means, longer battery life, you can buy more mah batterys from ebay whic will give you extra 1 or 2 day,

i have got 8gb version with vodafone , i m gonna change it tomorrow with 95 classic, for camera protection option, please anyone dont tell me stick a protect sticker front of lens, i dont want to sacrifice the camera quality also,
:))

_The good point of the N95-3 (U.S version)_

1 It has the longer battery life.
2 You can put an 16 GB (or more) Micro sd when it will be avaible.
3 It as more RAM compare to the normal one (N95-1).
4 Okay the screen is smaller.. But you have a better battery life.
5 you can easily save your data if the phone crash.
6 You can remove dust on screen easily.

_the bad points of the N95-3 (U.S version)_

1 The screen is smaller.
2 There are not convere lens.
3 The screen is unprotected
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_The good point of the N95-1 classic_

1 The lens is protected.
2 You can easily save your data if the phone crash.
3 It has the video editor.
4 You can remove dust on the screen easily.

_The bad points of the N95-1 classic_

1 The poor RAM.
2 The small screen.
3 The poor battery life.
4 The speaker's are less good then the N95 8GB.
5 The screen is unprotected
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_The good points of the N95 8GB_

1 The bigger screen.
2 No need to buy a memory card.
3 The faster RAM.
4 The screen is protected, if you scratch your screen just replace the protection made of plastic.
5 The better battery life.
6 When you slide your N95 8GB is not hard unlike the N95-1
7 The speaker's rock.

_The bad points of the N95 8GB_

1 The scratch appear after 2 week's.
2 If your phone crash or take a bath you cannot save your data.
3 It's horribly slow to transfer data (I took me 3 hours to put 5 Giga Byte of Mp3).
4 The camera for the video calling is not in place.
5 It get dirty easily after 2 week's(because of the dark color).
6 It can have dust under the protection, you cannot take it off (Is difficult and can avoid your warranty).


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Sorry for my english i'm from Switzerland /French part/