Latest trade press date given is start of February...anybody know differently :o

Latest trade press date given is start of February...anybody know differently :o

That sucks, I was hoping for 17th Jan :cry:

:P :D its everywhere here

Carphonewarehouse website now says Feb2003 - yesterday it was still saying January. Expansys website still says 2nd or 3rd week in Jan (but that was posted on 17th December).

I just phoned SE Uk and all they will say nowis first quarter, whereas last month they were saying Jan - so I expect the date has slipped to Feb at the earliest.

I am getting peed off with SE, why do they keep changing the date. My best guess is that the networks are still testing it and are not quite happy with it yet. surely they could just be honest and put the info on their website.

That isn't good at all, I'm still going to keep my hopes up and pray it comes out in January :-?

yeah, and in two weeks it will be due out in March. I expect it will get released just in time to make it into a 21st century technology exhibition at the V&A

stunned walked into carphone warehouse and was told easter now its just getting silly the same with sonys new top of the range pda with no bluetooth built in or apple launch all there new products 2weeks after xmas

Its like why should se march forward get the phone out quick and capture the market when they can procrastinate and let nokia pip them to the post again
Plus with the reviews the sharp phone is getting people unless really keen on this phone wond wait and will probably be quite satisfied with its major improvements over a current phone

Like david beckams foot what if we all pray for a January Launch

I just want to comment about AnasP800's signature: It is really bad :D :D
Dont let "M" see it :D

i can second that !
i must have seen it a dozen times now and its still makes me cringe. :-?

www.expansys.com have now got prices for the UK models. they are expecting them in stock b4 the end of january.

no details as yet for the 3650

Latest trade press date given is start of February...anybody know differently :o
Vodafone are saying that it will be February/March.

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THIS ISN'T FAIR!
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Possibly the networks are giving a slightly later date as they will want to provide 'branded' or SIM locked versions.

Possibly the networks are giving a slightly later date as they will want to provide 'branded' or SIM locked versions.
No, it is due to the number of problems that have been found. If you look at the Nokia 7650, Vodafone did not release until firmware revision 4 because they were not happy with the performance.

Possibly the networks are giving a slightly later date as they will want to provide 'branded' or SIM locked versions.
No, it is due to the number of problems that have been found. If you look at the Nokia 7650, Vodafone did not release until firmware revision 4 because they were not happy with the performance.

LOL!, that's wrong, Vodafone were one of the first ones to release the 7650 in the UK, I got it on Vodafone with V3.12 (First Public Release) the first day it came out.

I think you are refering to Orange who didn't release until V3.16 (Second Public Release), as they had some network problems with V3.12

To be honest, i'd put up with the bugs until the next version of firmware is released, I just want the handset :x

Rang Sony Ericsson UK, they are still saying that the handset is going to be released end of this month at around £500.

Those of you with Barclaycards who want to buy the handset-sim free can claim any money back if the price drops after 60 days of purchase.

Rang Sony Ericsson UK, they are still saying that the handset is going to be released end of this month at around £500.

Those of you with Barclaycards who want to buy the handset-sim free can claim any money back if the price drops after 60 days of purchase.

Wow,that is excelent.Did SE say that?
You can never get that kind of conditions with Nokia.

The price at Expansys drops:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=P800&asource=

Our Handset Only Price : £528.75 (450.00 exc.)
With O2 Connection: £293.75 (250.00 exc.)
See bottom of page for list of available network connections.
All our phones are from UK distributors and have full UK warranty.
Availability: Estimated 14 Days
If you ordered this product before 3pm today, UK customers could expect delivery in 14 working day(s). Add your email address to the box on the left to receive an alert message when we get stock.

I have ordered things for expansys before I would take more notice of the word "could" in that sentance.

Anyway its still more sim free than from SE UK direct. I have ordered my P800 form them some time ago and they have promised me last week in Jan, they said that the phones whould go out in the same order the orders were taken ( if that makes sense). I was told I was on of the first to order.

The order can be cancelled at any time before it is shipped so lets see what happens.

sony ericsson uk, eh? - good idea
whats the site and how much are they charging?

I thought of using the barclarcard technique but they give you 30 days, not 60.
i'm not too sure if the deal counts for items bought over the internet though. :(
i think i'm gonna save myself a couple of hundred pounds and wait for it to be released with sim.

i think i'm gonna save myself a couple of hundred pounds and wait for it to be released with sim.

Sounds like a plan ;)

Come on... how come P802 takes so long to be available! I want a set with mandarin input!

Sonyericsson have informed the vodaphone shop in Watford that it will be available from MARCH.
The good news is that it has apparently been certified by the networks now.
Can I wait this long, or does the COMPAQ IPAQ look more interesting after every delay (8 months and counting). I would even consider an import, but I don't know how the support would go. (yes I know it will cost at least £300 more !).

I f you've been a psionfanfor12years you can surely wait another few weeks for the best psion ever !

Nigel

ps COMPAQ IPAQ is not symbian/psion

I realise that the compaq/ipaq is yet another MS corporate takeover attempt, but in my defence, I am very, very disappointed with SonyEricsson behaviour. WHERE IS IT ?
Most other countries have it.... I don't even care if it crashes (initially!).
Oh well, back to my large Psion Netbook and T39 (because my Series 5 power kept draining very quickly).

:cry:

I f you've been a psionfanfor12years you can surely wait another few weeks for the best psion ever !

Nigel

ps COMPAQ IPAQ is not symbian/psion

I like the p800,its quite appealing beeing the first device powerd with Symbian 7.0,but in this state,with loads of firmware bugs,missing features,i wouldn't use "best" to describe it.

Not yet out in the uk? :o

Its out for more than a month here :D

I cant believe that the UK does not have the p800 available as of yet. !!!

That is the trouble with networks that feel it is important to check the phone first...

Anyway after playing around with on now for a couple of weeks, I strongly recomend that you hang on for just a little bit longer. It is well worth the wait !! I really cant get enough of it.

Some tips while you wait. Make sure when you buy your p800 that it comes with the latest version of the PC Suite. Not really a problem if you dont becuase it can be downloaded from the ericsson website. My laptop did have some problems with the synching at first but this was cleared up with the new software. So if you are impatient like me, download it now and save time later when you need it.

P.S. for your info. my p800 was bought in Beirut for $736.

Enjoy it !!

Paddy

Just thought people might want to know that the sony ericsson UK website (http://www.sonyericsson.com/uk/spg.jsp?page=start) has started to show the p800 in its product line up.

"Our Handset Only Price : £488.06 (415.37 exc.)"

They had been £528, so £40 has been sliced from the price. £488 is a little bit easier to swallow psychologically.

I've checked, it's still £528 inc vat

Just rang SE UK sales - What a surprise "it's been delayed as it still being network tested - we are being told beginning to middle of Feb".

What is different to our networks in the UK, that it takes so long for them to test the phone?

I wonder why the vodaphone shop told me that the SE rep had stated that it had been PASSED by the UK networks finally ?
If only the Nokia 9210 had been released with bluetooth.
That's all I want, a product that exists that you can make a phone call on without looking like you have just left a SCI FI convention and are still in character !!!
:agrue: :(

I think the entire release process is tangled up in dependencies
e.g.

* SE waiting for approval from networks for compatibility. For me this is a pain as I am on the Isle of Man and thus not affected by this. The compatibility tests are more likely to be with 'service products' (e.g. java games) than RF etc.
* Companies with grey imports waiting to empty their stocks before bringing out official ones at lower prices

I cannot see how the radio/GSM part of the equation could be wrong, as Ericsson have supplied a lot of the telco gear in the first place, and that Italy (as a major consumer of mobiles) has no problems.

Just spoke to SE UK agian!!! and this time was told:-

Today we have received information that the first shipment will arrive in the UK on the 17th FEB and that your handset will be shipped to you on that day if the information about the delivery date stays firm!!!!!!!

Theres a promise!! if SE go out of business they should go into politics!.

I was also told ( this time ) the reason for the delay was that they can not release the phone SIM free until one of the UK networks approvies it, its not a handset issue the phones are ready to go.

If I dont get my phone by the end of FEB I have decided to give up, I am sick of looking foward to to many dates that have just slipped by, its now been nearly 6 months!

Theres a review in T3 or STUFF cant remember which that says when it was announced nearly a year ago it was the dogs nuts. A lot has happened since then, its still good but with such a delay it has shortened its life and lost out on a huge number of people that would of brought it 6 months ago but not now.

It's funny that SE are now saying 17th Feb. I remember someone in the Forum saying ages ago that he had inside info and that it was going to be 17th Feb. Can we do a search to find out who said that when?

Woo hoo! Thats my birthday! :bday: What a present that would be. I distinctly remember thinking that last year though... doh..

Umm.... just to update you all in the UK...waiting "patiently" :o for SE to start shipping the P800....

Spoke to their eShop today and the girl said that they will now be getting them into the warehouse on the 24th feb...they should then be able to send them out to people who've already paid a day or two afterwards....

;) Yeah ...right SE... I don't think I can wait much longer..... :roll:

This is getting boring.
Come on NOKIA, release something soon that blows this out of the water before it's easily available (May would be my best guess for full network availability based upon the last years fiasco).

I agree with the previous comments regarding Motorola, I think there is 0 chance of a release before late this year, if it actually exists. It looks to me a lot like the Chrystal prototype that they worked on with PSION a few years ago before dumping it.
As I said before, if I EVER see it, I will still probably buy it :(

I got fed up of waiting and bought it in HK, on hk-mobile.com.
I got it in 24H and for a cheaper price than I would have paid here in France...

Sprotch,
How do you get upgrades ?
Will SE honour international warranty ?
I predict at least 3 major firmware changes during the first 12 months.
If SE will honour fully, then I am very, very tempted, especially compared to £900 UK for an imported unit.
Thanks for the information, very useful.

And the saga continues, 24th FEB delivery date for UK........

This is all getting just a tiny bit sad. The phone has been available to half of the world since Xmas and some of the biggest markets in Europe are still waiting. Why don't they just release it in small numbers to the mail-order guys who are going to sell it SIM free anyway?

They are p1ssing off their biggest customers more and more with each passing day. This phone is not going to sell in massive numbers anyway, only to those who enjoy technology and genuinley need the PDA features. It is certainly true that the last 12 months have diminished the desireability of the P800 and I bet that if Nokia had known they had that long to develop an alternative, they might have given a direct P800-competior a shot.

If they (SE) announce anything exciting at Cebit or any other conference, who among us would wait for them again? Not me, I can tell you, after this I won't even contemplate a new phone until it's in stock!

I am also interested in P800s from HK. If the warranty is worldwide, then I think I might have to do this, as their price of £448 inc shipping is lower than the official (yet to be made available, if ever) SE UK price!!!

You may well have to pay extra to Customs and Excise when the Courier arrives with the package.

Worth checking to see if it is a duty exempt item.

Just thought I'd mention it in case you got a nasty suprise.

Things like this can tip the balance against importing one.

(I'm assuming you live in the UK)

N

Good point, I had totally forgotten about VAT on items outside of the EU. I doubt that a mobile would be duty exempt. It would still be much cheaper than the current price of imports, but would push it just above the official UK price.

I'm still considering it. Alternately does anyone know of a good online retailer of P800's in Sweden?

What you all want to do is......buy from somewhere after you check it out very well, and not get all star eyed, buy the pictures and just give them your card number like it did :x

What if they send it as a gift? Would you still have to pay duty?

Yes, you still pay duty on gifts worth more than £150 (they get you from all angles!)

I know this for a fact. In fact, I know rather a lot about this device but that's another story.

The UK networks are the most incompetent, backward-looking, laggardly cretins in business anywhere in the world.

I am serious; this is the reason the P800 is not qualified on UK networks. They have had devices for qualification before all the other global networks (where is SE headquartered? Hammersmith. Where is O2 headquartered? Hammersmith :roll: ). The processes they go through are frankly ludicrous, involving the first production models that come through ON THE NETWORK but in the pockets of senior technicians and interested execs and used as bragging objects. No work is done on them. "We need a couple more" they say ... and it takes time. They come through. The guys pick the software apart and say they don't like the way MMS works (for example) as it's not what they're used to on other devices. Or they don't like the browser. Or something. "Can you change it please?" they ask, to which SE reply "Sod off. It's OK." And they argue. And then the device needs a couple of Master Resets, or comes up with the animated "I've crashed!" icon ... and the network complains again. "Fix it or we won't release it." To which SE reply, "Uh guys, it's a version 1.0 ... ALL 1.0 products crash. Even your 'network grade' apps." And then they argue the toss for a few weeks.

And this is before the politics and the corruption in some of the UK networks all of which delays introduction of products internally, the introduction of the wrond products, and ... the delayed intro of complex handsets.

Some of the stuff that goes on in the UK you would not believe. One day I'm going to spill.

Whoa, Heavy stuff there Harald, but your probably right. Inside info tells me that it's just red tape stopping the phone being released in the UK. If majority of the networks around the world have approved it for for them why not uk?

Episode II : The Orange is the only fruit
I have been reliably been informed
that it should be out by the end
the month on Orange, it is
already featured in this
months Orange Mag.
:black:

oh right... Now they're saying the END of the month. Deja vu anyone?

Expansys is still say 14 working days for delivery. Anyone remeber it saying 30 working days for delivery for about a month back last August?

We should sent the Expansys Webmanager a calendar, as it still says we are expecting them at the end of January. I think they just can't be arsed to change the web page anymore.

:P I got mine, what are you guys waiting for? :P

Thought you'd lost your money?

Ok firstly, it cost me a bomb, but I have no regrets, this is a brilliant toy and I am very happy with it.

I bought it off E-Bay, from SK Worldwide in HongKong. I believe he can get plenty of them.

It cost me £499.00 + £30 delivery etc. It arrive within 4 days of payment clearing. However it was hit with £74.54 duties which I had to pay (what can you do, its within your grasp, you just gotta pay da man).

Came with everything and a UK charger, and dammit, its the dogs danglies.

The guys email (I doubt he would mind if it brings him some business) is skcon@hkstar.com his Ebay name is SKON (but just search for P800), he communicated well for all my questions, sent a tracking number for the order. I complained about the duties, but its out of his hands. As said above, anything over £150 gets hit even if its a gift (which is what it was marked as).
I definately recommend you also get a Brando screen protector (another HongKong site supplied - but Expansys have them too).

If you buy from him, tell him I sent ya, maybe he will send me a present :D

t0me,
That appears to be a good price compared to other import versions.
I am surprised at the duty.
I thought that it would be more than £75, also why no VAT ?
Well done !
As I said earlier, it will take a while for full availability, it does appear not to be SE's fault, so maybe I should be emailing Vodaphone etc complaining.
At least we should have firmware release 'I' by then :(

The only duty payable on a mobile phone would be VAT (17.5%) which is about £85 on a £500 phone.

Thought you'd lost your money?

So did I!, got it today :D

I may be wrong but i heard that SE are putting a video recorder on the p800 and adding a couple of small features as of the competition, -that's why it's taking so long.


L

oh well its good 2 see u got ur handset in the end J2

i swear the wait for the handset is beyond a joke but my opinions have already been voiced by others in the thread!

but im flad its coming 2 orange soon - lets hope there is no delay and ill check the orange magazine 2 see if it is indeed in there!

i should be able to get it arround £150 on contract (im a heavy user so the large tarrif) caint wait ;)

I Spoke 2 Orange Today, They're saying roughly around 24th Feb. But again the usual story "not confirmed". Fingers XX :-?

According to posts at Esato, Germany looks to be Feb 17th. Another quotes that SE are releasing in UK on 17th according to an email received by the poster.

Not sure what to make of this. More FUD probably.

Glad to hear that you didn't lose your money J2theIZZO.

I am sick to death of waiting for this phone. I think SE have lost a lot of goodwill with the constant delays. If the Networks are p1ssing them around they should say so. Call a spade a spade not a digging implement.

Thanks everyone :D

I'm sorry you guys are waiting longer, but it's worth the wait :) :o

Can anyone confirm that the p800 will be available on orange before the end of Febuary ?

Will there be any promo gprs tarrif like there was with the spv ?

This is purely an opinion, but I suspect that no-one outside SE hq can tell you if Orange will actually have a phone to sell in the next six months, never mind the end of february. :evil:
If only the 7650 was a better phone without the lazy upgrade restrictions.

JJJ, no confirmation. But Orange seem extremely confident about it being out by the end of FEB. They're stuck their neck out slightly by already advertising it in the lastest mag...but alas we shall see.

i hope so! cos whenever someone says they they got such and such a date from sony ericsson or orange i call and they always say 1st quater or feb respectively and no one has a definate date! :(

i wouldnt mind but they announced this phone ages ago! they should have kept it a secret and i would have blissfully ignorant abt it lol!

Some more info for you all, 17th or 24th FEB looking very likely.
I'll let you know if I find out any more.

Which year or decade I don't now ;) ;)

I hope Orange pull their finger out this time. When the T68 was first released it took Orange ages to release it on their network! 02 and Voda got it much earlier. I ended up getting the t68 on 02 and using an orange JT sim!

3GSM conference starts on 17th. They are releasing opera on that day so I wonder if they are going to make the general availability announcement then.

anyone knows if the p800 supports Line 2???

Just put a pre-order in at the SE eshop.

"Emma" (I think) said that they were being released on the 24th Feb, and that they'll need a day to take in the shipment, and another day to get them out to people. She reckoned that it would definately be with me by the first week in March "at the latest".

I should have asked if this is the second shipment that they'll be receiving, I dare say that if it is, the first one has been sold out for quite a while.

Not long to go now.

Andy

It seems this forum is a little slower than esato.

17th is first batch from se eshop, 24th is second.

They also told me that all the orders so far will be met with the first batch. She did say that none of this was confirmed, but I assume that is them coverring their arses.

Just to confirm on what AndyP has said, Orange is going 2 release the handset first this friday(should be in shops monday 17th FEB. Other networks 2 follow by end of the month.
Ring the SE eshop,they will tell you the same..... :D

just phoned up my local Orange Shop (in meadowhall, sheffield) and they say they will get them next week (starting monday 17th), so as soon as they arrive, i will have one with my name on it!

They will give me a call when they arrive :D :D :D

No idea of the price tho :/

It's now being advertised on the Orange UK website, under the list of phones you can buy.

Says "Coming Soon" though, but at least its a good indication that it definitely is coming soon.. (unlike my mobile, but that's another story)

£299.99 on pay monthly - no prices for upgrade yet.

£299.99 on pay monthly - no prices for upgrade yet.if you've havn't upgraded for 12 months, isn't the upgrade and the pay monthly price the same?

yeah the upgrade fee and RRP is the same! but depending on where u buy ur handset and what tarrif u go on, the price of the handset can be subsidesed even furthere when purchasing a new contract.

£299.99 on pay monthly - no prices for upgrade yet.if you've havn't upgraded for 12 months, isn't the upgrade and the pay monthly price the same?Yes, you're right.

I didn't know that until about 10 minutes after posting :)

Thats not actually strictly true.

As I understand it, the phone shops get less profit from the networks for upgrading an existing customer than getting a new contract signed. Thus upgrades can sometimes be more expensive.

With regard to forward cellular in Leicester they quoted me £440 for an upgrade when they are offering £299 on a new contract.

And yes... Im about 15 months into my contract!

Who's going to be the first one with a UK (most likely eshop) p800 in their hands next week then? :) the race is on...

And what I really wanna know is....

Which firmware will the new UK ones have?

Who's going to be the first one with a UK (most likely eshop) p800 in their hands next week then? :) the race is on...

I won over a week ago :P :D ;)

where was yours from then?

he got it from forward cellular apparently they did somehow get uk spec version early!

as for the upgrade price u were quoted from a shop! thats twollox andy u should not pay more than the rrp if ur over ur 12 months. Infact i remember upgrading 2 a 9210 a while back on orange and i called them direct and they transfered me 2 disconnections cos of the 500 they were asking for an upgrade and they slashed it half to 250 and let me upgrade - they also look at ur call spend and take that into account ;)

Yes, I got mine from Forward Cellular in Leicester

http://www.fwdcellular.com/cs.htm

:D

Sony Ericsson's eshop are still saying that it was officially launched today on orange, but Orange don't seem to have a clue.... :x

Just going back to the Orange upgrade thing, they have changed their pricing policy on upgrades. You will be charged an upgrade premium even if your contract is over 12 months old under the new regulations, dependant on your average bills, from a somple of those generated in the last 3 months.

I can post a list of prices if anyone is intrested.

omar: yes i would be interested :)

Ripped from a combination of ModoCo Forums/telecom.mobile.uk/What Mobile Forums/Orange Press release. - 12/02/03
____________
From Wednesday 12th February 2003, the upgrade fee structure will change for all Orange customers who have had their current Orange phones for less than 18 months.

Why are Orange changing the structure?

Suposedly to reward high value customers who spend over £60 per month for their loyalty and to increase customer satisfaction

Customers who have had their phones for less than 18 months may be required to pay an upgrade fee, which is subject to status, in addition to the cost of their new phone.
Customers who have had their phones for more than 18 months will only have to pay the cost of their new phone when they upgrade

New Orange Upgrade Fees

Age of phone (Since Subscription Start or Last Upgrade Event)

-vs-

Customer value (illustrative total monthly customer bill per handset)

Band 1 (<£30 )
0-3 Months (0-<3 ) £250.00
3-7 Months (3-<7 ) £200.00
7-12 Months (7-<12 ) £125.00
12-18 Months (12-<18 ) £50.00
18 Months + (18 + ) £0.00

Band 2 (£30 - £60 )
0-3 Months (0-<3 ) £250.00
3-7 Months (3-<7 ) £100.00
7-12 Months (7-<12 ) £75.00
12-18 Months (12-<18 ) £0.00
18 Months + (18 + ) £0.00

Band 3 (£60+)
0-3 Months (0-<3 ) £250.00
3-7 Months (3-<7 ) £50.00
7-12 Months (7-<12 ) £0.00
12-18 Months (12-<18 ) £0.00
18 Months + (18 + ) £0.00

phew!
although i spend less than £30 in the average month, i have had my old phone for longer than 18 months.

Thanks for the info, omar, very useful!

I phoned Orange, they said I could buy the P800 from them from Monday 17th onwards.

yup i was given the info as skunk, the first time in actual fact a csa had idea of the release. I suspect that orange retail will have it on monday aswell as large chains such as cpw and later in the week or early next week for other dealers and independant stores.

Any ideas if it will be SIM-locked?

yup it will be

Oh well, I may as well carry on waiting again.
If I pay £500+ for a phone including contract I believe it is my phone to use as I wish not ORANGES.
I do not wish to have ORANGE dictate to me that I must carry a separate phone for work use as well as theirs for personal use.
If I wanted to carry several items around I would have purchased a separate IPAQ ages ago and had 65536 colours and ready availability of software including RMRBANK, TOMTOM routeplanners and city maps etc.
I wonder if Vodaphone are going to start locking the phones ?

It's worth sticking with Orange even if it's just for their Wildfire answering machine service.

It's awesome :)

I wonder if Vodaphone are going to start locking the phones ?

The already have. Panasonic GD87, Sharp GX-10 and some Nokia 7650's are already locked to the Vodafone network. I'd expect to see most if not all MMS capable Vodafone stock rebranded with the Live! logo and locked to the network.

O2 will be the UK's only non-sp locking network, and I can't see them continuing in that vein for long if they are the only ones.

Having said that, OFTEL have forced the networks to reduce unlocking fees. It should now cost no more than £20 and is free on Vodafone if you've been witht them for a while or are on a high earning (for them) tariff.

T-Mobile PAYG used to be free if the code was requested by post, Virgin was free and Orange will buckle and do it free if you complain (and use an expensive monthly price plan).

Omar_G
Thanks for the info, I will check if Orange can be forced to allow unlocking as so far I have been impressed by people comments re customer service.
As for Wildfire ? Will this be relevant once someone writes an answerphone system for the P800 or does it does something special like write letters for you and post them. On second thoughts don't answer that, this thread is already long enough :D :D

Omar_G
Thanks for the info, I will check if Orange can be forced to allow unlocking as so far I have been impressed by people comments re customer service.
As for Wildfire ? Will this be relevant once someone writes an answerphone system for the P800 or does it does something special like write letters for you and post them. On second thoughts don't answer that, this thread is already long enough :D :D

Advanced voice recognition (natural language) voice mail service. Very sexy indeed :) It's like talking to a real person.

Do a search for it on the Orange website, they have demos for you to listen to.

I phoned Orange this morning and they said they weren't selling the P800 yet :mad:

Odd.

I phoned them this morning and they said they were, and that their shops should already have it. Tried one Orange shop, and they said they didn't have any.

Phoned eshop again this morning (Justin) who said between 17th + 24th (so differing again slightly) but he has a gut feeling about the 20th.

Regarding delivery, he said it will be next day if it early enough that day, otherwise the day after - there is no extra delivery charge.

So, unless they arrive Thursday (2oth) afternoon and the delivery company don't delivery on Saturdays, it should be here this week...

:) nice.

Can someone post as soon as they know the eshop have them?

I spoke to the e-shop this morning and got exactly the same response. (Maybe I spoke to Justin too)

Someone on Esato said that the e-shop told them that they were expected today, and as long as it was before 1pm, they would be with us tomorrow.

We'll wait and see...

Thats basically what he said.

I said also "So they could come today then?"

"Yeah its possible".

We'll see.

Well, one o'clock has come and gone. I guess it's not going to be with the postman tomorrow morning :-(

A.

sim locked or network locked?

sim locked or network locked?

Who are you asking?

SE e-shop: not locked.
Orange: locked.
Vodafone: Possibly locked - some more recent handsets have been
O2: not locked.
T-mobile: I had heard that they will not be releasing it, although can't remember the source of the info
Virgin: locked (I think)

not sure whether working at the eshop for se (and getting one of the first p800s) would outweigh the fact that there appears to be about 10 calls a day to see if it's been released yet...

Let's hope I get a delivery driver with a heavy right foot :)

I thought the same as I picked up the phone this morning. It must have been around 10am when I called, and I have a feeling that they guy on the end of the phone was pretty cheesed off at having to answer another availbility question about the P800. The answers seemed to trip off his tongue as though he'd been practising.

I'd be interested to know how many pre-orders they'd taken, and where on the list I lie. I would have thought that there would be a reasonably substantial amount, and that I'm toward the end of the list (having pre-ordered last Wednesday). The chances of mine shipping the day that they arrive are probably quite thin, even if they arrive at 9am. Still, I know that one of them has my name on it, and I dont have to wonder around a load of Orange shops.

When I originally orderred he told me to phone roughly once a week, so that I did :angel:

But I agree - I phoned him about 9.15am :agrue: :agrue:

Sorry to sound dense, but what e-shop are we talking about?

Is it available to order online now or something? I just checked the eshop on sonyericsson.com for the UK/Ireland region and its not listed?

Sorry to sound dense, but what e-shop are we talking about?

Is it available to order online now or something? I just checked the eshop on sonyericsson.com for the UK/Ireland region and its not listed?

You have to phone the SE e-shop to order. 08705 283 283

Price is £500 inc VAT and delivery. They are expecting them in "any day now".

£500 ! ! why dont you save yourself £200 and buy it with a sim ?

Its debateable as to whether you would save any money or not. You certainly would on the initial outlay, but probably wouldn't after a years worth of contract had been paid. I guess it all depends on how much the price falls in say, six weeks time. If its drops another £100 or so, getting a new contract would probably be the way to go. But then, thats six weeks away.

FWDcellular are selling them now for £300 with a £28??/month contract - that works out to be a fair whack more than £500, but then you are paying the premium for having the handset before most others.

I've been pondering whether to go straight out and buy this or to wait. On the grounds that I'm a tad skint and also that my next review is only about 6 weeks away, give or take, I've come to the conclusion that, despite the desire to see my boss go "Oooooooh" and get jealous, I shall wait until after I've pleaded poverty at review time.

In the meantime, keep the info flowing!

Cheers

I have become so sick of waiting for 'official' UK P800 to become available SIM free I have eventually relented and bought an import from mphone.

I could not stand another week coming and going with another date slipping past into the pile of broken release dates. There is no absolutely no way I'll be waiting for their new 3G phone, which, based on present form is unlikely to be available before 2005.

I hope they (SE UK) realise what a bad taste this whole episode is leaving in their customers mouths. I've been a T68i user and _want_ to stay loyal to the SE brand, but I think they least they could do is communicate with their customers.

i think i am getting the p800 the cheapest, cheapest in the sense of the overal total cost.

i am an orange everyday 50 customer, i roughly pay £150 pound a year for everyday 50, as i have a seperate text number.

i am getting my p800 this week from orange, i think its out on wednesday (hopefully) for £250! on upgrade.

so this means = 150+250= £400 which i think is wicked price considering my mate got a voda contract package for his less favourable panasonic gd87 also costing him around £400.

what you lot think??, sound any good or should i do something else.

later indy.

Sounds like a good price. I doubt very much you'll have it this week on Orange. They seem to be unsure whether or not they have released it today :D Most Orange stores have never heard of it and invariably new contracts will get it first...

back to ephebe's point about the phone working out cheaper buying it sim free for £500 than over 12 months

What kind of call charges as yould you have ?
will you be using a "pay as you go" card ? - surely not.

I have an Orange OVP Virgin sim. Call charges are as follows:

Line rental: £0 /month
calls (first five minutes / day): 15p each
calls (after 5 minutes /day) : 5p each
Anwerphone: free

if you want a better breakdown, take a look here:
http://www.smalltalk.co.uk/virgin.htm

I don't make too many outgoing calls, but I receive a lot of calls. Monthly bills are usually under £10.

Thats why buying sim free is certainly better for me.

Andy.

so orange havn't got the P800's in.
does anyone know when the will?

The Eshop is saying the phone will be released 24th Feb....
Nobody seems to know at Orange what's going on. :evil: :evil:

The point is (as far as I'm concerned anyway) that Networks subsidise most phones, on either upgrade or from a new contract.

So, I shall be getting whatever phone I can from the upgrade department (most likely a 7650) and then selling it brand new sealed and boxed on ebay to offset the £500 charge for the P800. That way I get the subsidy and one of the first phones.

For now I need to get my t68 replaced by the insurance company so I can flog that on ebay (or if they get me a mineral grey t68m I shall probably keep it :)...

Should knock my p800 down to about £250 whilst still staying on the same contract (£30 a month for unlimited GPRS ;)

Just pre-ordered mine from Eshop,don't want to sign a new contract from Orange or anybody else.
paid for it on Barclaycard, hopefully the handset only price will drop elswhere within 2 months & I'll claim the difference on their price promise scheme.

Should knock my p800 down to about £250 whilst still staying on the same contract (£30 a month for unlimited GPRS ;)

Who is the provider Andy?

for what, the GPRS? Singlepoint Vodaphone.

(Obviously the P800 is to be purchased SIM Free)

i think orange do a unmetered gprs option for business customers may be its that hes refering too.

I myself well get it on contract and simply cancel my existing agreement as i want to change my numbers. The other reason is insurance - on orange or o2 business first tarrif u get free insurance/orange care :)

Just need to actually find an Orange shop that has the phone....

lol durzel dont even get me started on that one! never have i known a consumer product hardware launch to occur with no hardware 2 sell!

Yousaf :)

It would be funny if it weren't so frustrating. The three individual times I have rung Orange Direct I have been told:

a) The phone is released and Orange shops should already have it
b) The phone hasn't been released, no confirmed date for release
c) The phone hasn't been released, possibly due 24th (not confirmed)

The plus side is it seems the two Orange shops I've spoken to, whilst neither of them have got the phones in stock, they've been apparently been told that they've should expect them in deliveries this week.

i was told this week by one orange shop, and in 4-5 weeks by another!

Same for me here in Leicester Will,one of the smaller stores told me that it had been released & that our flagship store would be have the stock in first..but when I spoke to the monkey ;) at the flagship store, he said that the phone was expected in within 3 weeks.

What you guys are saying echoes my experience exactly. Nobody seems to have a clue wtf is going on with this phone.

This afternoon I have been into all the major network shops in Maidenhead (except O2 which was closed for lunch - go figure) and no-one could give me any firm opinion on when it would be available - and that was if they'd even heard of it!

The other frustrating thing is that I was planning to buy it sim free from Clove Technology (a PDA specialist in Bournemouth) and then take out a new contract. However, none of the networks or CPW will sell a phone or contract without the other. I guess I could get a freebie phone as a spare.

(Very) Frustrated of Berkshire.

i think orange do a unmetered gprs option for business customers may be its that hes refering too.

No it's definately Singlepoint Vodaphone as I said :)

Long story but there's only two of us in the country apparently who have it!

You guys should all ring up forward cellular. 0807 44 44 47
They've had them in for 2 weeks now.

ive had mine for days

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :D

to be honest id be prepared 2 buy it sim free from forward cellular but theres no guarantee that the sim free version works with line 2. I know the t68i did but apparently the delay of the orange p800 has partley beed due to making it line 2 compatible from what ive read on this and other forums :(

Yep Nookie, they're round the corner from me,but they sell the handset with a Vodafone tarriff. If you wanna buy the handset from them sim free it will cost you £635. I'd rather wait...

A quick update for those of you waiting on the SE e-shop.

Justin is now saying that they are expecting them in on the 24th. Different from yesterday when he said that it could be any day between 17th and 24th.

I'm pretty sure that Emma has said all along that they'll be in on the 24th. Looks like they have the same hymn sheet now.

(Has anyone spoken to anybody else at the e-shop, or is it just Justin & Emma?)

Andy.

same as you have said

I do find Justin very helpful but Emma is like, well she has a bad attitude (maybe just me)

its like I'm left feeling that I have inconvenienced her

it shouldn't be like that.........she is in customer service/sales

she should get a job doing something else

Oh, i don't know about that. Emma took my order. She seemed perfectly nice, and very helpful.
Andy

perhaps she has had a few bad days......maybe a lot of people ringing up complaining about the constant p800 delays got to her

I find Justin is cool though

local orange shop said today, this week and that they would have a demo saturday... :o

hello

nk8: nice :)

I asked Justin when I phoned once how many people there were there as I had spoken to him several times - he said 5 :) I have spoken to someone else apart from those two though - can't remember their name.

I was under the assumption that if Orange were getting deliveries from SE by friday, the eshop might be the same? If only they could ship it straight to me from SE rather than via the eshop to save a couple of days :)

And Ive told a couple of mates that I should have it by the weekend... Sounding unlikely but hey I'm ready to be surprised.

Added: Just found out I have somewhere important to be on Saturday where I shall definately need to show it off... If my P800 hasn't arrived by Friday I might have to blag an import...

Update on orange website for a more detailed look at the P800
www.orange.co.uk/p800

Latest from Orange shop online, phone is due in stores any day now. This has been confirmed by 2 Orange stores in Leicester(who know what they're takin about.) that the phones should be in on Thursday/or Friday's delivery. again we'll see if they can deliver the goods.

Just phoned forward cellular who have stopped selling them as SIM free.

He said that he will be selling them for "much less than that" in March (which is "a week away" :)

:agrue:

If I don't get one before Saturday now I'm going to cry :roll:

Much less than their current SIM free price (£635??), or much less than the SE e-shop sim free price?

The wait is terrible.

He definately meant less than £635, but whether "much" less is less than £500, I don't know.

Out of interest, does anyone know where the SE Eshop is based? If they came in on Friday I'd rather drive there in the afternoon to collect it than wait till Monday if it was somewhere reasonably close..

Company paid petrol and the fact that I live in the Midlands has something to do with it... a childish trait of wanting my new toy now probably has more...

;)

*passes andy a tissue*

i hear yah! im telling myself end of this month! on another note - i heard on the uk spec phone theres a video recording app - hence the delay anyone got any info on this ill try search again for the thread if anyone has the link please post :)

god damn it... i don't give a crap about a video recording function yet... i don't want to wait until they make a .sis for making a pot of tea either....

I'll have it now as R1A if needs be!

lol@pot of tea!

pateince is a virtue! but really its bloody se's fault for telling us about this phoen way too early! i mean the issued details of it in the middle of last year!

someone ring the eshop and pester emma again for more info.

Tell them if they aint with us by saturday there'll be an unhappy camper on the way up there to give them a piece of my mind!

Im going to lunch anyway to destress :)

Just spoken to Emma (to place an order);

She said the Week Commencing the 24th of Feb is the "Official" UK release date (sounds like a range of dates to me), so they could be in any time during that week. They will be shipped out (mine included) as soon as they arrive.

And on the question of Memory Stick duo availability in the UK, 32 and 64MB versions will be released in March\April.

You're will be shipped out the day it arrives ? Have you pre-ordered one from Orange direct. I was told I couldn't do that.

Damn Emma...

You should have asked to speak to Justin... he knows whats going on :)

Emma has always said the 24th, and whilst she might be right I believe she is just saying that to shut people up.

I reckon they'll arrive as the SE eshop tomorrow afternoon...

You're will be shipped out the day it arrives ? Have you pre-ordered one from Orange direct. I was told I couldn't do that.

When people speak of Emma or Justin, they are talking about the SonyEricsson E-shop (08705) 238 238. P800 = £500 sim free.

Not orange I'm afraid.

Andy

Edit: Oh, and for those of you with a bit of patience, take a look here:
http://tinyurl.com/627m
Probably the cheapest around. Though not in stock for a few weeks apparently

rest assured that I have someone waiting at home every day who has been threatened to ring me as soon as the delivery arrives..

Lets see who posts here first to say a eshop phone has arrived...

Let's hope it's me on friday afternoon :)

id like 2 know how the sim free version works with line 2 on orange!

i may even get it on the virgin mobile tarrif on orange if thats the same price as se eshop and then get it unlocked for another £20

If you buy the P800 with an Orange contract, and it does support Line 2, can you migrate an existing pay monthly Orange contract on a seperate SIM onto that line?

I have an Orange pay monthly SIM that I use for work, but I wouldn't mind getting my own contract - but I don't want to have to change the SIMs back and forth whenever I want to make personal or business calls.

Any ideas?

hmm not sure if u have 2 sims u on orange u can divert all calls from one to the other at no additional cost if thats what you mean

its called orange everyphone, here a link below

http://www.orange.co.uk/services/every_phone.html

as for 2 seperate sims having the same number - i doubt it but u could ask them.

sorry i see what u mean now u want ur exiting number as line 2 number on the other phone. They dont let you do that, but there are 2 ways round it.

a: cancel ur existing contract and go on pay as you go. when u get ur new orange contract transfer ur pay as you go to contract.

b: this is a long method, get a pay as you go sim for another network and post ur number accross then port it bacl to orange on ur new contract as line 2.

they dont let u post ur existing pay monthley contract to another new paymonthly contract within the same network. The make u upgrade for that.

You're will be shipped out the day it arrives ? Have you pre-ordered one from Orange direct. I was told I couldn't do that.

No, she didn't say the same day. She said "straight away". In the same way as she didn't say it would be released on Monday. She said the Week begining Monday.

And I was referring to Emma at the SE Shop, as someone mentioned before.

Just to interrupt your little tiff :roll: expansys have a confirmated release date of 25th feb.

Who's up for placing bets!? current odds are 10000000 : 1 that it WILL be then...

Given that Expansys have not made any unfounded commitments
so far I'm ready to believe them.

Oh God please ..............

I reckon that Expansys are baseing this date on the fact that everyone in the forums is saying the 24th!!! They have been consistently wrong and usually a week or two behind the latest rumours. We will see come Monday!

Bit eerie, this threads gone quiet.
Looks like no Orange retail shops have the phones in yet. Still got 2morrow though.... :-?

or monday, tuesday... :(

they've gotta release the P800 whilst we're still in Feb or what little confidence consumers have in SE will shrink considerably. Personnaly I stopped waiting for this product in November. I would have been waiting for it for over a year by this time. I was initially expecting it to be released last July.

If it's still the hostest thing around in November 2003 then I'll buy one.

All,

Hey, in case there are people here that dont read the Esato forum then someone there has spoken to Justin at the SE E-shop and Justin said that they ship phones to Expansys. So Expansys will have gotten the date from SE direct.

Monday is still looking likely to be the actual day they get the 1500 P800 phones in stock.

Zoidy.

Cool... 8)

Does anybody know whather there will be any unlimited gprs tarrif for it on orange like the spv had?

I have heard that the release date by ORANGE is going to be Tuesday 25 February and the ORANGE site is showing the handset with a contract at £329.00. Last week they had it down for £299.00 with contract so why the price hike only God knows?

They probably saw what Expansys was charging for it and decided they wanted a piece of the action.

Seems you have to virtually sell your soul for a P800 through Expansys - 24 month O2 contract (which isn't even very good) and even then the phone is still £293. :o

Yeah, i just checked Orange... £30 extra..... HMM. Only because they *can*. We've been waiting for so long £30 isn't going to put us off, and they'll be richer.


Damn them.

The simple fact is, Carphone Warehouse are advertising P800's in Feb. The are, if not the biggest, one of the biggest, handset supplier in UK. They would not advertise 'due in Feb' if it 'aint coming in Feb. So if the vibes on orange are 25 Feb then it isn't gonna be far off.
Forget what orange and SE are saying, this phone will be on public sale on one of the networks by the 28th of Feb!

Apparantly Orange had some stock which they sold yesterday afternoon, hence why it is listed on the website as available for upgrade.

They are now out of stock and are waiting for further deliveries, and are not taking upgrade orders in the mean time.

Source: Orange contact center.

P800 AVAIL now in Orange Shops, Ring ur local retail to see if they've got any in stock. I've just had a call from one of the Leicester Stores & they have just had them delivered. I have reserved one. :P :P :P

same in sheffield!

yup its available in my local orange shop 2 ;)

£299.99 is the retail price

The Orange shop in Liverpool Street station said they were getting 10 in today.

£299 Cool :P

Does anybody know if I can get the handset on a Data plan only?

Well it seems as though the P800 is out on Orange... any news on whether it will be out on Vodafone soon? I spoke to Vodafone Customer Services earlier this week, and they said the 28th, but I sure hope its gonna be sooner :D

i think it will be on vodafone pretty soon - there not usually that late with handsets!

zubair check the orange price plans im sure they have a data tarif!

if u register as a business custimer they have an unmetered gprs tarrif ;)

Is no one gonna wait to get £180 off and get it from www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk ?? :o

Also, any info on that orange unlimited GPRS thing, are they still doing it?


L

Oh I agree, I did manage to get my old 8310 two weeks before the official launch a couple of years ago from Vodafone Retail!!!

Vodafone now however, cannot make their minds up when they're gonna launch it- they say its a "guide date"(I guess we've been getting a lot of those lately) If anyone has a vodafone confirm date, please tell all!!!

.......if u register as a business custimer they have an unmetered gprs tarrif .......


I'm in business and I've ordered from the onestopphoneshop

what are the benefits of the unmetered gprs tarrif ?

is it a lot more than the £30 I've signed up for?

thanks for your help

Anyone found anywhere on the web with stock ?

C

Just rang the ORANGE shop in Plymouth and they had a delivery today.

Prices range from £329.00 to £199.00

I enquired about the ORANGE PLAN 120 (£25.00 a month) and the phone was £329.00 on that tariff!

Rang ONE STOP PHONES and the cost of the phone with the same plan is £199.00 however ONE WORD OF WARNING and that is the prices shown on the website are SUBJECT TO CHANGE so you may be disappointed but the good news is they will contact you first before taking money out of your account (you probably already knew this anyway) and they have NO DELIVERY DATE yet confirmed (possibly early March)

Just got My P800 :D :D
Bought it on the Orange data only plan which costs £10 per month with Orange care included. Just gonna charge it & put my everyday 50 sim in there.

It took the Sales assistant a while, at first she clearly said that I could not get the phone on a £10 tarrif,but I'd previously checked with Orange Customer services & they said it was o.k.
Sweet Emily had to eat humble pie.
Got there in the end. :D

This site gives a good idea on prices and tariffs:

http://www.mobiles.co.uk/cgi/refer.cgi?refer=overture12&page=orange-sony-ericsson-p800-e.html

:P :P :P

The simple fact is, Carphone Warehouse are advertising P800's in Feb.

Did you know that the Carphone Warehouse magazine says the release date is in March!!!

:black:

Oh No! Just heard from the Vodaphone shop in Watford that their P800 release has been delayed until the 28th April......This was a shock, concidering I actualy had a play with one this morning at the Orange shop, also in Watford, where they are on sale from today.
The phone was all I expected, except the camera quality was terrible when compared to my Panasonic GD87.
I was also happy to notice that the phone felt ok in my hand and did not feel as big as I thought it would.
So a day of mixed emotions. I finaly had the phone i've been waiting for since last september in my hand and 10 minutes later being told that it is not available on the network I want (vodaphone) until almost May.
Lets hope the guy in the Vodaphone shop was wrong. Unfortunately he sounded like he had just heard the news himself from his head office. :D :cry:

Go SIM free then and use it on Voda....

zubeir,

whats the info w the data plan? does this mean unlimited net surfing or something for £10 a month


L

Just got My P800 :D :D
Bought it on the Orange data only plan which costs £10 per month with Orange care included. Just gonna charge it & put my everyday 50 sim in there.

It took the Sales assistant a while, at first she clearly said that I could not get the phone on a £10 tarrif,but I'd previously checked with Orange Customer services & they said it was o.k.
Sweet Emily had to eat humble pie.
Got there in the end. :D

Excellent news mate - i got it on HSD too, but in a slightly more roundabout way. Got the phone for £299 on YP120 instore - and was told that i couldn't change tariffs for three months - but not believing that O would clawback from their own retail stores, i phoned up C/S and was told immediately by two sweet young things that i could change tariffs immediately, no penalty - and that clawback only happens with "CPW etc" - i.e. independant dealers. Thus i have to pay a 5day fraction of YP120, then i'm on HSD just like yourself- and'll use my other orange contract, plus my O2 once i get it unlocked, in the handset! I'm so happy! [:)]

Nope, HSD tariff has NOTHING inclusive (except Orange care, which is a BIG bonus, of course!)

15p/5p Landline/Orange voice calls
30p/12p X-net voicecalls
7p per text message

20p & 15p for HSCD orange data call/CSD orange data, at all times.

just got mine from fargate sheffield, but there are no more left!

£10 Data tarriff all additional data usage etc is charged, I only got this because it was the cheapest way I could get the handset.

If anybody is interested, the Leicester Shires shopping centre store had 20 units.They might still have some stock.

If Vodafone have delayed the release of the P800, not only would I be p****d, but it would be another point why Orange are catching up with Vodafone, because Vodafone time and time again mess about with their customers. I dearly hope that when I phone up Vodafone Customer Services again(like I have already a couple of times this week) they say that its still gonna be out on the 28th Feb..... PLEASE! :cry:

See above

Ummm I thought it was for surfing as well?

Does anyone know if ORANGE are planning an additional service on top of your normal tariff (like they did with the SPV?).

:D

Just about 2 buy the p800 but my orange store is in doubt wheather i can use the spv £6 a montn gprs tarrif with the p800, can i or not?

And what is the access pack for? just wap or can i use it for web on my p800 aswell? surely i can ?

PLEASE someone help and reply or my local orange store will run out of stock?

I just got mine! I’m on a 120 min talk plan with 2MB an month data package, and insurance, £33.75 a month, I want to use my other sim but this was what I was told was the cheapest package!
I have to wait 2 weeks for the phone to be unlocked, but after that I want to switch down to my other phone, any ideas what package I should go onto, I don’t think I will use the Orange sim, so what’s the cheapest?

i got mine earlier and oh my days it rocks!

How are you guys going to get them "unlocked". I want to get my P800 as quickly as poss', as cheaply as poss' BUT I need to be able to use my "work" Vodafine SIMM in it.
If I get one from Orange for example, can I get it unlocked to take the Vodafone SIMM?

Cheers and God bless, The_Hog_Rider... :o

Hello there,
i was wondering if anyone knows whether Orange is making any discounts for upgrades on this phone or not?
i'm paying an average of £80 per month, haven't upgraded for 2.5 years. and they told me they can't make any offers on this handset.
any help would be appreciated.
thanx

As far as I am aware they are not.

If you are paying that much and you are willing to change your number may be worth going that way and shopping around.

Just about 2 buy the p800 but my orange store is in doubt wheather i can use the spv £6 a montn gprs tarrif with the p800, can i or not?

And what is the access pack for? just wap or can i use it for web on my p800 aswell? surely i can ?

PLEASE someone help and reply or my local orange store will run out of stock?

Assuming you've already got a SPV I would think its just a case of swapping the SIM. The GPRS should work if you enter the same settings as your SPV. This is not guaranteed but I have read of people buying the SPV to get the Orange £6 a month contract, using the SIM on a T68i and selling the SPV as new for a profit. I think the £6 a month GPRS offer ends at the end of April.

Assuming you've already got a SPV I would think its just a case of swapping the SIM. The GPRS should work if you enter the same settings as your SPV. This is not guaranteed but I have read of people buying the SPV to get the Orange £6 a month contract, using the SIM on a T68i and selling the SPV as new for a profit. I think the £6 a month GPRS offer ends at the end of April.[/quote]

The GPRS offer does end in about 6 weeks however after speaking to the ORANGE SHOP in Plymouth they said that they would be offering it again after that for the same price or LESS (This was when I enquired about an SPV though and they told me to 'hang fire' for the P800 which I am glad I have after reading this forum......pre-ordered phone already).

The simple fact is, Carphone Warehouse are advertising P800's in Feb.

Did you know that the Carphone Warehouse magazine says the release date is in March!!!

:black:

Their website says Feb, has done for about 4 weeks??

Hey guys!

Good to hear the phone is finalluy available in the UK!

The £10 data-only tariff...is this only available to business customers? And if so, how do they ensure you REALLY are a business customer?

Thanks for your help,

Fudge.

Hey guys!

Good to hear the phone is finalluy available in the UK!

The £10 data-only tariff...is this only available to business customers? And if so, how do they ensure you REALLY are a business customer?

Thanks for your help,

Fudge.

Excuse me for being so naive but how does checking your email & surfing the web actually cost in terms of dialing time and money?

I have found the HS DATA PACK information on the web but it isn't very clear (not to me anyway) and 20p a minute & 15p a minute seems harsh?

Or have I got it totally wrong?

Dave :oops:

Dave,

I have to admit, I'm confused about the whole data thing myself. I mean, you've got your WAP, and your GPRS. You've also got the ability to use the P800 with an existing dial-up account, and then use POP3 to get your mail.

What with all this, I'm not entirely sure what the best way of doing all this is. I was planning on doing a bit of browsing, a bit of mail checking, maybe using the Remote Control app. But the rest would just be standard phone stuff.

With this as my aim, could someone give me an idea of which technology I should use? And maybe which tariff is suitable?

God, I sound stoopid asking this...

Thanks,

Fudge.

To one mb of gprs data u only get abiur 15 web pages eh? pretty crap i must say

The HSD tariff isn't a 'business' tariff, it's available to any and all of us.

And the point in HSD? Well, people don't normally sign up to HSD to actually use the account. They do it to get cheap phones, then use the handset with their other orange account. They are effectively buying a subsidised handset, then paying £10 per month to insure it (as i said before, HSD includes free orange care) - it's a pretty good deal.

While the call charges aren't actually too bad (esp. text messages at 7p each, and X-net off peak at 12p, on-net at 15p/5p peak/offpeak) - the sim can be useful to have for some people, depending what tariff your main one is - but i don't think you'll find anyone actually subscribes to the HSD tariff as their main line. :)

While the call charges aren't actually too bad (esp. text messages at 7p each, and X-net off peak at 12p, on-net at 15p/5p peak/offpeak) - the sim can be useful to have for some people, depending what tariff your main one is - but i don't think you'll find anyone actually subscribes to the HSD tariff as their main line. :)

Thanks Si

I am now getting a clearer understanding of the tariffs and additional services.

A good link for the tariffs and FAQ's can be found at

http://www.orange.co.uk/talkplans/gprs/costs.html

worth noting that they recommend POP3 accounts and not web based accounts in the FAQ section.

PS I am just about to get BLUEYONDER BROADBAND does that have a POP3 account?

Thanks for your help Si!

Sounds to me like there's not much point in using GPRS right now. It's sooo expensive per Mb. Surely it's cheaper to use a dial-up account for the majority of stuff?

I may just use one of the OVP tariffs then, and maybe just activate the GPRS and see how I go.

Fudge.

Dial up is always slower than GPRS.
I hate to browse with dial-up because of the stress of read-it-quickly-because-you-are-paying-by-the-minute feeling.
If you calculate the amount of MB that can go trough a dial-up connection at 9600bps in one minute you will find that that same amout of GPRS trafic will cost about the same. Same cost, GPRS faster -> GPRS wins.
If you forget to disconnect dial-up you go bankrupt, you don't have to worry about that with GPRS.
Without ongoing traffic you receive incoming call warnings with GPRS, with dial-up you have busy line until you disconnect.

this is suppoesed to be a UK availability topic so ive created a gprs one to continue this discussion

Go SIM free then and use it on Voda....

I would if money was no object, but on a new £30 per month tarrif Voda should charge about £300 for the phone. Sim free as far as I can see is at least £500 ish. I can think of better things to do with £200. Voda shop is also presently offering 6 months monthly charges at half price which saves big bucks.

Anyone have any news about non Orange availability.

Thumbs up to Orange for getting there first. I am tempted to defect. Voda and O2 should get their finger out if they don't want to loose otherwise loyal customers. I still hope the guy in the Voda shop was wrong about the end of April revised date. :agrue: :agrue: :agrue: :agrue: :agrue:

Internally Vodafone are still saying 28/2/03, £299 with contract; they are currently doing 1/2 price contracts for1st. 6-months.

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[quote="the_hog_rider"]Internally Vodafone are still saying 28/2/03, £299 with contract; they are currently doing 1/2 price contracts for1st. 6-months.

Thats not the case- I checked 2 Vodafone shops yesterday, one inside London and one outside- and both suggested that it was gonna launch on 28/4/03- because of "compatibility issues". Sorry to be the bringer of bad news...

I have pre-ordered a P800 via

www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk

and as of today they are still awaiting stock. I am going to remain on the ORANGE tariff currently using.

As the 'Guest' has mentioned that VODA are not 'planning' to release them until late April due to 'Compatibility Problems' I am very 'curious' what these 'problems' are as VODA are the only ones who seem reluctant to release this 'baby' to the world?

Appreciate this is the UK AVAIL Forum but would welcome a reply.

I have pre-ordered a P800 via

www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk

and as of today they are still awaiting stock.

Be prepared to wait - they told myself and many others that it'd be 2-3weeks before they actually get any in - i didn't really want to wait that long, so i just reserved a load with Orange instead, and went to my nearest store on release day (last friday) to pick one up!

Although I would love to get hold of one now my current contract doesn't expire until 25 March so if it is 4 weeks then happy in one respect as I don't have to pay TWO tariffs......

And if £100.00 less than the ORANGE SHOP then more than happy (if the price remains the same as when ordered of course).

carphone have about 600 phones at their warehouse at present, so expect them to retail soon. am informed £200 on £50 a month contract. £250 on talk 200....

Very interested in the posts quoting 28/4/03... My contact works in "technical" - he's unaware of any "issues" and says that the stores are supposed to be able to get them as they're in the "internal" catalogue ???
Very puzzling (annoying!!!)
If the P800 is being delayed any further, I will be walking away; no piece of ICT is worth this hurry-up and wait. I'll sticking with my 9110 - it's not fancy but it is reliable and does what is needed. The P800 would be a nice new toy (and would replace the 9110) but life really is too short to stress-out over a phone!

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Just went into Carphonewarehouse today and was told they were getting stock (on Orange only) this Thursday 27th. Prices range from £199 and up depending on contract. I suspect they will be the same as the Orange stores where they are only £199 on a £55/mo contract and more like £299 on any 'sensibe' tarrif.

Carphone warehouse had some in today but sold out, next shipment tomorrow afternoon. I'm going on your plan 200 @£200 for the handset.

If the price drops then since i'm using my barclaycard i'l be refunded the diff if the price changes within 2 months so its all cool

Spoke to Emma 5 minutes ago at SE EShop will not be getting them in until 4thMarch

£200 ? thats the cheapest yet. i thought cpw were selling them at 250. only on orange eh ?

you wont get the money of barclaycard, xxx !
they wont refund unless its pay as you go or sim-free.

The barclaycard price promise only applies to pay as you go phones.

I would have thought the price promise would include simm free.

The exclusion clause in question is probably (I'm no solicitor) Section 11

excludes......Any part of an agreement for the provision of *services*

ie monthly contract is excluded from price promise

Bugger, on the cpw website it says 250 but the guy on the phone said 200.

onestopphone shop place will have em in about 2-3 weeks so is it worth waiting as i can get it 4 £125 on your plan 200 ???

Help ?

I bought from Orange shop for 199.99

£55.00 per month

however, if I let them know by 06th March (my billing date is 7th March) I can downgrade my tarrif to say £15 per month

some people say that I have to be with them 3or4 months to change tarrif.

this is NOT true

I have phoned Orange 3 times and each time I have been told the same- I can change (I bought on Friday I could have changed down on Saturday)

hope this helps

XXX !

I forgot to mention I cancelled my OSPS order as for the sake of £75 or so I felt it was worth it.

I would not have paid £300+ however on the £30 a month deal

From the Expansys home page (http://www.expansys.com/).

25th Feb P800 Stock now arriving!>
We have recived limited stock of the UK, EU & US spec P800 today - confirmed orders are being filled on a first come first served basis. We expect to have free stock some time next week.

Weird. I've cleared my cache. Refreshed the home page, and p800 page, but can't see that message at all. It says exactly the same as it has since thursday/friday :o

Excellent!

They were good to their word.

Ordered from them in December so hope to have the phone soon.

Getting the 64Mb Duo with it which will have to do until the 128Mb arrives.

Ephebe

look at the bottom right hand corner of their page ..

Ah ha! Thanks for that. It must be too early in the morning. :roll:

Well, I got my screen protector from Brando today. Just got to wait for the damn phone now. Come on E-SHOP! ;)

have you phoned them yet this morning then?

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I thought you said you were going to phone them this morning. I'm waiting with bated breath.

The eshop staff really DON'T know a thing. A few posts ago, Emma said 4th March. I just phoned now and she said they will get told a delivery date next week.

I'm sure that Emma and the other staff are doing their best, and are really getting p1ssed off with everyone phoning. However who is their Boss who should be screaming and shouting to those higher up, to stop messing the eshop staff around.

I will buy the phone, cos of the features. However I think SE have lost a great deal of goodwill with their handling of the release the P800. I bet I buy the thing then somehting else will be released in 2 months much better.

It's showing as available on Carphone Warehouse Website. I've no idea about stock levels though. Only on Orange as has been said before.

See http://www4.carphonewarehouse.com/commerce/servlet/gben-latestproducts-Main

Just contacted OSPS and they are quoting 7-10 days before delivery but it 'could' be sooner!

www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk

Also enquired about the price and she said that prices were going to change 1 March but didn't have any more details?

Does anyone know anything about a 1 March price changing structure with mobiles?

I bought from Orange shop for 199.99

£55.00 per month

however, if I let them know by 06th March (my billing date is 7th March) I can downgrade my tarrif to say £15 per month

some people say that I have to be with them 3or4 months to change tarrif.

this is NOT true

I have phoned Orange 3 times and each time I have been told the same- I can change (I bought on Friday I could have changed down on Saturday)

hope this helps

XXX !


Is this correct ? i have just bought it for 200 aswell and wud like 2 donwgrade my tarrif from 50 pounds to 20 pounds, what number do i call and what do i say ?