View Full Version : truphone on n80! IT WORKS!


cbcharlie
02-12-2006, 02:59 AM
works, and works great. you have to flash to N80i, fw 4.0632.0.38, and just install the .sisx thats available from truphone. it works and ive already made a few calls with it. I bet truphone will never release it for the "N80". They'll just eventually announce support for N80 Internet Edition.

cbcharlie
02-12-2006, 06:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlWOn-p_egY

for you people that dont believe me.

Biggzy
02-12-2006, 11:18 AM
How did u download the truphone app? Iv txt tru to 60030 and got the link but says my N80IE is not suported?

cbcharlie
02-12-2006, 04:29 PM
How did u download the truphone app? Iv txt tru to 60030 and got the link but says my N80IE is not suported?

do you have a truphone account? i had to email tech support to get one, texting didnt work, once you got an account, u can log in and download the E series sisx.

id send it to you, but you need a personalized settings file to go with it as well (not sure if its NEEDED but it added all the sip settings to the phone). the sisx alone isnt enough.

Cash
02-12-2006, 04:43 PM
Hi Charlie,

what did you put in your email to tech support at truphonr ??

cbcharlie
02-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Hi Charlie,

what did you put in your email to tech support at truphonr ??

Please can you forward the following details to support@truphone.com and we will provide you with a Truphone account:

Your full name
Your GSM/cell network provider
Your GSM/Cell number

cbcharlie
02-12-2006, 05:25 PM
http://gizmoproject.com/ works just as fine too, just it costs 1cent/min to call real numbers, where truphone is free atm. and not sure if landlines can dial u yet with gizmo, didnt spend to much time with it. might have to pay more for "IN" service. still free with truphone ;]

Cash
02-12-2006, 05:43 PM
http://gizmoproject.com/ works just as fine too, just it costs 1cent/min to call real numbers, where truphone is free atm. and not sure if landlines can dial u yet with gizmo, didnt spend to much time with it. might have to pay more for "IN" service. still free with truphone ;]

You can Buy Gizmo in numbers so landlines can dial in ...

cbcharlie
02-12-2006, 05:44 PM
You can Buy Gizmo in numbers so landlines can dial in ...

i'll stick with truphone ;P

Potts
03-12-2006, 01:43 AM
I bet truphone will never release it for the "N80".

Not according to an email I had from Truephone last week:


Dear Richard,

Thank you for contacting the Truphone Support Desk

OK, so we know you're keen to get hold of the N80 Truphone client!

We're sorry it's not available for download yet - the product IS ready, it's
just got to clear the signing process.

Please go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBXv68CchJo and see the video of
the Truphone CEO, James Tagg, explaining the status.

Version 3.0617.0.6 firmware will work fine with Truphone.

If you have any further queries please reply to this email for assistance.

Regards,

The Truphone Support Team

introducing Truphone
SCN Ltd.
Hurst Farm
Dairy Lane
Edenbridge
Kent TN8 6RA

www.truphone.com

you wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I signed-up for your N80 Beta programme a couple of months ago, but haven't
> yet heard from you guys. I was wondering if you were still running the
> programme?
> I'm running quite an early firmware: V 3.0617.0.6, 03-05-2006, RM92 Nokia N80
> (33.01). The firmware appears to be very stable. I'd obviously be prepared to
> upgrade if it was necessary to be part of your beta programme.
>
> Thanks,
> R Potts

cbcharlie
03-12-2006, 02:30 AM
well its good to know n80i wont be required for truphone, but sadly they STILL havent released it. who knows when they will. but truphone works RIGHT NOW with n80i ;]

gierach
03-12-2006, 02:26 PM
gizmo doesn't work very well to be honest. i've tried to call my friend who is behind firewall(the same as me), and we couldn't hear each other.what's the point of configuring the firewall - port forwarding etc. if f.e. you will be abroad and won't be able to do it if you use free wlan

Ratkat
03-12-2006, 03:13 PM
I have to say that Gizmo works fine for me, both with a firewall on or off, also tried it using an open network and again worked no problem.

You can dial into gizmo using the sip number from another internet phone or buy a number that landlines can use for $12.00 every 3 months.

Gizmo connects everytime for me, even with the PC client running.

I do intend to try out truphone though, just cause its free at the moment:icon14:

pinksteady
04-12-2006, 03:57 AM
I have tried Gizmo briefly and it works very well on the N80ie in terms of integration with the phone OS. I guess they all will do that though. I have sent of an email to truphone asking for an account so who knows maybe they'll give me one and I can try out truphone too. Is it possible to have 2 different types of accounts on the N80 at the same time?

cbcharlie
04-12-2006, 04:41 AM
I have tried Gizmo briefly and it works very well on the N80ie in terms of integration with the phone OS. I guess they all will do that though. I have sent of an email to truphone asking for an account so who knows maybe they'll give me one and I can try out truphone too. Is it possible to have 2 different types of accounts on the N80 at the same time?

yes, i have both gizmo and truphone on my phone. you can even be connected to both at the same time.

Biggzy
04-12-2006, 01:19 PM
Iv got truphone working on my n80IE at last, thanx to charlie for the info about emailing them!

Cash
04-12-2006, 01:33 PM
Iv got truphone working on my n80IE at last, thanx to charlie for the info about emailing them!

I sent request to truphone, just waiting hopefully for a positive reply

satello
04-12-2006, 01:46 PM
after another sucessful update yo IE i'm on the truphone waiting list as well

Cash
04-12-2006, 02:17 PM
I just read on the Truphone site that they found a bug in the app when they went for signing that is taking some time to sort out....so dont hold your breath to get it anytime soon, on the plus side they have extended the free calls offer untill March 07...hopefully we will have it before then

pinksteady
04-12-2006, 03:16 PM
well i downloaded the truphone client and installed it, but whenever I run the setup wizard and try to choose my WLAN access point, it just doesn't do anything, like it crashes but I can still scroll through the AP list, just can't select one. Can't get any further. If I go back a step and try again, the program hangs and my phone is then fecked til I restart it, everything is slow and messed up.

Also, my phone is now permanently trying to connect to 'Orange MMS'!! Even if I manually disconnect it, it just reconnects again, what is going on?

Methinks I am going to stick with Gizmo til I can figure out whats going on, any ideas?

Cash
04-12-2006, 03:34 PM
well i downloaded the truphone client and installed it, but whenever I run the setup wizard it connects to Orange MMS access point (did not want it to do that) and then just seems to hang when choosing an access point. Do I choose my current routers access point or do I select 'Home AP'?

Since this has happened in the last few minutes my phone is crashing and generally going crap, dunno what's going on, looks like I'll be sticking with gizmo, but will persevere. Any ideas?

update: ok restarted phone and it is now permanently connecting to Orange MMS, and reconnects immediately when I manually disconnect it. What's going on?!

did you change in the internet phone folder prefered call type to internet ?

satello
04-12-2006, 03:35 PM
I got an account but cannot manage to connect as the installation wizard hangs for a while on verifying set up and then closes sayng set up verification was cancelled b4 it could be completed.

i think they got something wrong, but how did somebody meke it working hten, any explanation to us as well?

BTW same problems with slowness and crash - mmmmmmm.......

Cash
04-12-2006, 03:40 PM
I am having truobles also...my phone has gone real sloooow, maybe this is why it hasnt got the certificate yet ....

Biggzy
04-12-2006, 03:48 PM
What i did was download the app directly to my n80IE frm my truphone acount, it instaled but i canceld wen it askd me to run the set up wizard, then i downloaded the settings directly to my fone, opend them and saved them, then i quit the web browser and all other apps, then i opend the truphone wizard and selected the HOME wifi option and config it to my wifi router, then i closed the wizard and went to nokias internet call app and it found truphones setup, then i selected conect, thats it

pinksteady
04-12-2006, 03:53 PM
I uninstalled truphone and my phone was STILL connecting automatically and sending 934B of data to 'Orange MMS'. I found that even though it was uninstalled, there were all the truphone settings still appearing in the Internet Telephony and voip menus under Tools->Settings->Connections. I deleted all references to truphone and restarted the phone (which hung again, had to take battery out!), and now my phone is no longer attempting to connect to Orange MMS

Dunno whats going on with this app but I'm going to wait until it is not causing all these issues! The method that Biggzy posted above is quite full-on just to get this program working as it should!

Biggzy
04-12-2006, 03:59 PM
I also had the mms prob, but i dnt send/recieve mms so i just deleted the mms access point, problem solved lol

pinksteady
04-12-2006, 05:08 PM
hehe well that's one solution! Not for me though as a) I do send mms and b) I'm not going to sacrifice the ability to send mms just so I can try out truphone!

satello
04-12-2006, 05:33 PM
hi guys, i just managed to talk to my mum in italy and apart from some breaking everyting went fine. basically you have to go trough the sip setting and have a look of the connecdtions there, which are set by default to you operator and to connect "always on"

Also what i noticed after the upgrade of the phone to IE last nite, a few apps have completely disappeard from the manu, and other just werent there anymor despite the icon still present. i removed all the redundant ones and also removed all the double settings the truphone have created (my fault for not reading the manual...


to be noticed that the price of the phone call was detracted from my £5 free credit, even if it was supposed to be free landline.... cant understand that!!


LONG LIFE TO VOIP!!!

pinksteady
04-12-2006, 06:38 PM
So for those of you who got it working, I have two questions:

1. How did you stop it from accessing 'Orange MMS' or similar?
2. How did you get past the wizard when it hangs/crashes while selecting access point?

Cheers

Cash
04-12-2006, 06:39 PM
Ok I finally got Truephone to work and made a free call from Lithuania to the UK...the quality was crystal and didnt notice any lag at all ... well impressed :)...

Cash
04-12-2006, 07:25 PM
Hmm it seems that truephone have decided to charge me for calls to France even though they are supposed to be free, but the calls to the UK were free.

04-Dec-2006 18:34 4414838***** Charge 00:15:01 0.000
04-Dec-2006 18:53 4420762***** Charge 00:00:24 0.000
04-Dec-2006 19:05 335539***** Charge 00:12:34 0.374


this is very strange

dez_borders
04-12-2006, 08:03 PM
Hmm it seems that truephone have decided to charge me for calls to France even though they are supposed to be free, but the calls to the UK were free.
this is very strange

Cash,

Thanks for the warning m8!

Anyhow, I have a question that may or not have been asked before...

I notice WiFi is now permanently on when I am at home. How (does) this affect battery life on the N80?

pinksteady
04-12-2006, 08:05 PM
you tell us! I give you about 4 hours before you battery dies!

Cash
04-12-2006, 08:09 PM
at home now I always have the phone plugged in so that I can keep VOIP on, but when I go out I turn it off unless I need to make a call and then I find a wifi spot and turn it back on,

I am guessing that I wouldnt get much more than 2 - 3 hours out of it with wifi permanently on and making a few calls

cbcharlie
04-12-2006, 09:05 PM
I uninstalled truphone and my phone was STILL connecting automatically and sending 934B of data to 'Orange MMS'. I found that even though it was uninstalled, there were all the truphone settings still appearing in the Internet Telephony and voip menus under Tools->Settings->Connections. I deleted all references to truphone and restarted the phone (which hung again, had to take battery out!), and now my phone is no longer attempting to connect to Orange MMS

Dunno whats going on with this app but I'm going to wait until it is not causing all these issues! The method that Biggzy posted above is quite full-on just to get this program working as it should!


i think it was in sip settings for the truphone profiles, change the cingular mms to ur wifi, and make sure u make it manual connect instead of auto. i think it was something like "register when needed"

pinksteady
04-12-2006, 09:10 PM
yeah cheers I had gone through all the settings manually and made sure they were all kosha, and now it finally works! You don't really need the wizard app in the end.

Now I have got all these working, I am confused as to what the difference is between the different services! I have created another thread about this for you all to enlighten me!

Cash
05-12-2006, 12:00 AM
Hmm it seems that truephone have decided to charge me for calls to France even though they are supposed to be free, but the calls to the UK were free.

04-Dec-2006 18:34 4414838***** Charge 00:15:01 0.000
04-Dec-2006 18:53 4420762***** Charge 00:00:24 0.000
04-Dec-2006 19:05 335539***** Charge 00:12:34 0.374


this is very strange

And I have also just been charged for another call to the UK....

04-Dec-2006 21:04 4411895***** Charge 00:03:30 0.127

I am guessing because they are giving you 5 quid of credit they deduct this from your calls untill you get down to 0 and then you will have free calls...well I guess I cant complain as they gave the credit for me free..

cbcharlie
05-12-2006, 01:43 AM
And I have also just been charged for another call to the UK....

04-Dec-2006 21:04 4411895***** Charge 00:03:30 0.127

I am guessing because they are giving you 5 quid of credit they deduct this from your calls untill you get down to 0 and then you will have free calls...well I guess I cant complain as they gave the credit for me free..

i dunno, dont think they charged me for usa landline call.

Cash
05-12-2006, 10:36 AM
I think I read somewhere that somebody has both truphone and Gizmo working at the same time....can you please tell me how you do that

Thanks

Cash
05-12-2006, 02:30 PM
Just had a call from Truphone and he reason they charged me was because I didnt validate my gsm number...should be ok now

wolverine1982
05-12-2006, 03:22 PM
can i get someone to post the sip settings, under mine it says "gizmo voip, not registered". i had a look on gizmo's site and they got settings for a nokia e61, but they dont work for me. cheers

pinksteady
05-12-2006, 03:23 PM
I think I read somewhere that somebody has both truphone and Gizmo working at the same time....can you please tell me how you do that

Thanks

Can you connect to each of them individually? If so, when you connect to one, it should ask you if you want to connect to other as well, just make sure you've got them both set up correctly with the SIP profiles etc

wolverine1982
05-12-2006, 03:36 PM
can i get someone to post the sip settings, under mine it says "gizmo voip, not registered". i had a look on gizmo's site and they got settings for a nokia e61, but they dont work for me. cheers

nevermind, it was a firewall issue all along, just need to open port 5060 on your router. :rolleyes:

satello
05-12-2006, 04:25 PM
Just had a call from Truphone and he reason they charged me was because I didnt validate my gsm number...should be ok now

NOT REALLY, just registered my mobile number but.....




05-Dec-2006 16:13 390653***** Charge 00:08:57 0.290

and that's an italian landline.... who knows....

Cash
05-12-2006, 05:40 PM
NOT REALLY, just registered my mobile number but.....




05-Dec-2006 16:13 390653***** Charge 00:08:57 0.290

and that's an italian landline.... who knows....

I didnt try minr again, but I will later and see if its been fixed....

Did you just register, or validate your gsm number ?...the guy at truphone said the gsm number has to be validated

dez_borders
05-12-2006, 06:49 PM
at home now I always have the phone plugged in so that I can keep VOIP on, but when I go out I turn it off unless I need to make a call and then I find a wifi spot and turn it back on,

Cash,

What's the simplest way to turn TruVoice on and off?
Currently I am editing the AP setting from Always on to When Needed

pinksteady
05-12-2006, 07:37 PM
How about having it set to 'When Needed' and putting a link to Internet Tel. on the active standby screen, then you can quickly go to it and connect/disconect?

Cash
05-12-2006, 07:41 PM
Cash,

What's the simplest way to turn TruVoice on and off?
Currently I am editing the AP setting from Always on to When Needed

Dez

Answered in the VOIP thread

satello
05-12-2006, 08:46 PM
I didnt try minr again, but I will later and see if its been fixed....

Did you just register, or validate your gsm number ?...the guy at truphone said the gsm number has to be validated

I have gone trough all that, received the message and validated the number.. i've done the phone call stright after maye it needed a bit more time will try again tomorrow.

also phone calls to mobile numbers are cut exactly after 40 sec, anybody else with this problem?

Cash
05-12-2006, 08:50 PM
I have gone trough all that, received the message and validated the number.. i've done the phone call stright after maye it needed a bit more time will try again tomorrow.

also phone calls to mobile numbers are cut exactly after 40 sec, anybody else with this problem?

didnt call a mobile yet so dont know

But If you get problems then you can log a support request from your truphone account, truphone actually got back to me with a phone call over truphone :) (which was nice) within 4 or 5 hours :)...or use the truphone forum, they are pretty quick at replying there.

satello
05-12-2006, 08:57 PM
didnt call a mobile yet so dont know

But If you get problems then you can log a support request from your truphone account, truphone actually got back to me with a phone call over truphone :) (which was nice) within 4 or 5 hours :)...or use the truphone forum, they are pretty quick at replying there.

i just went to check my logs and... i think they are still a bit messing up with tariff... have a look

04-Dec-2006 17:40 3933841***** Charge 00:01:03 0.000 mob
05-Dec-2006 16:13 39065***** Charge 00:08:57 0.290 land
05-Dec-2006 19:36 3933924***** Charge 00:00:46 0.450 mob

05-Dec-2006 19:40 3933924***** Charge 00:01:05 0.000 mob
05-Dec-2006 19:41 3933924***** Charge 00:01:04 0.000 mob
05-Dec-2006 19:42 3933924***** Charge 00:01:04 0.000 mob

as you can see i havent been charged for the last 3 calls made to an italian mobile (the ones cut after 40 sec) but i've been charged for landline....

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????


i think we have just to wait to run out of the free credit and check what happens afterwards, but im defenately going to stick to those guys

Cash
05-12-2006, 09:11 PM
05-Dec-2006 21:09 4412128***** Bundle 00:00:59 0.000

It seems that my billing has been sorted out now :), but will keep an eye on it over the next few days I think :)..

if you still have a problem then get in touch with truphone with a log support and I am sure they will sort it for you :)..

kh0sa
06-12-2006, 01:25 PM
I have free incoming calls for my cell phone plan... so is this even better for me or does it take away some of the greatness of truphone?
I'm not sure how it works.:con?

Cash
06-12-2006, 03:06 PM
I have free incoming calls for my cell phone plan... so is this even better for me or does it take away some of the greatness of truphone?
I'm not sure how it works.:con?

nobody pays for incoming calls...do you mean outgong calls ??

sm1thson
06-12-2006, 03:51 PM
nobody pays for incoming calls in the USofA they do, costs to 'cell phones' is cheap, they pay the extra!

Cash
06-12-2006, 03:54 PM
in the USofA they do, costs to 'cell phones' is cheap, they pay the extra!

wow .. I didnt know that ..

Biggzy
06-12-2006, 05:58 PM
What? U have to pay for incoming calls in USA??? OMG im so glad i live in uk, i have between 50 and 70 calls aday, id b bankrupt if i lived in USA lol

cbcharlie
07-12-2006, 08:36 PM
look, truphone is no longer coming soon to the n80, its now, "New! Truphone launches on N80 Internet Edition (N80ie)" lol, will we have have a n80 non internet edition? who knows.

fdxd
07-12-2006, 09:20 PM
What? U have to pay for incoming calls in USA??? OMG im so glad i live in uk, i have between 50 and 70 calls aday, id b bankrupt if i lived in USA lol

The US is still cheaper for phone calls ;)

dez_borders
08-12-2006, 08:24 AM
didnt call a mobile yet so dont know

But If you get problems then you can log a support request from your truphone account, truphone actually got back to me with a phone call over truphone :) (which was nice) within 4 or 5 hours :)...or use the truphone forum, they are pretty quick at replying there.

Truphone got back to me with a phone call as well, saying they had NO IDEA why I was charged for calling a UK landline but that they had made a few calls using my account and no new charges had appeared. I am also not convinced that making calls on my account without my permission was very professional....

Considering they don't know why I was being charged, and that they don't claim to have done anything to fix it, I am sceptical to their claim I will not be charged in the future. They also did not refund the charged call to my account.

satello
08-12-2006, 08:42 AM
in the same situation i was given an extra fiver on top of the first credit, and i'm now at £7 something,

i was told i was on the wrong tariff and now everything seems to be fine..... :)

Cash
08-12-2006, 09:01 AM
Truphone got back to me with a phone call as well, saying they had NO IDEA why I was charged for calling a UK landline but that they had made a few calls using my account and no new charges had appeared. I am also not convinced that making calls on my account without my permission was very professional....

Considering they don't know why I was being charged, and that they don't claim to have done anything to fix it, I am sceptical to their claim I will not be charged in the future. They also did not refund the charged call to my account.

They didnt credit the charges made to my account also ....

I also made a call yesterday to a french skype number and was charged 37p per minute, I quieried this with truphone and it appears that its a premium number, even though when somebody else calls it its not charged at a premium...so just be carefull when yuo call skype in numbers..

dez_borders
08-12-2006, 06:51 PM
They didnt credit the charges made to my account also ....

I also made a call yesterday to a french skype number and was charged 37p per minute, I quieried this with truphone and it appears that its a premium number, even though when somebody else calls it its not charged at a premium...so just be carefull when yuo call skype in numbers..

I made a 2 minute call to PayPal Executive Escalations (don't ask!) in Southern Ireland today and was not charged anything. Good. Cool. Long may it last!

I think VOIP systems should give the caller a voice prompt warning when a call is Charegeable, just like mobile operators do with 0800 numbers.

satello
08-12-2006, 06:56 PM
I think VOIP systems should give the caller a voice prompt warning when a call is Charegeable, just like mobile operators do with 0800 numbers.

i think you should suggest this to the guys @truphone, they will be happy to hear from you, but i still think there is something wrong with their tarifs..

dunarea
08-12-2006, 08:21 PM
I am on the Three X-series plan and i thought it would be good if i could use Truphone with my 3 internet connection but it seems it only works with my wireless network. Anyone knows if it's possible to use Truphone with any other type of internet connection apart from Wireless?

livfc
09-12-2006, 08:28 AM
Anyone else here had problems obtaining Truphone for their flashed N80? When I click on the link received in the text the resulting web page says that my phone isn't supported. I flashed to 4.0632.0.38 firmware. Only thing I can think of is the product code hasn't updated correctly.

dunarea
09-12-2006, 03:51 PM
After updating to N80 IE i sent a message to truphone, received the text with the link, tried it and it said phone not supported. A few days later, after seeing that some people on this forum managed to get Truphone, i tried again, sent the text and this time it worked, i downloaded it, installed it and it works. So maybe you should try one more time?

satello
09-12-2006, 03:59 PM
Anyone else here had problems obtaining Truphone for their flashed N80? When I click on the link received in the text the resulting web page says that my phone isn't supported. I flashed to 4.0632.0.38 firmware. Only thing I can think of is the product code hasn't updated correctly.

make sure you have the internet edition

dez_borders
09-12-2006, 05:10 PM
Anyone else here had problems obtaining Truphone for their flashed N80? When I click on the link received in the text the resulting web page says that my phone isn't supported. I flashed to 4.0632.0.38 firmware. Only thing I can think of is the product code hasn't updated correctly.

Same happened to me. Someone posted details earlier in this thread relating to email registration via the Truphone Support Team, which worked for me.

By the way folks, once regsitered you must VALIDATE your email address and also your GSM number whilst logged into the Truphone My Account page. Until you do this, you are not eligible for any Free calls.

dunarea
09-12-2006, 06:30 PM
I have to say that i have made free calls for about 3 days before validating my email address, i even called mobiles in uk and abroad, and have not been charged a penny.

Cash
09-12-2006, 06:41 PM
I have to say that i have made free calls for about 3 days before validating my email address, i even called mobiles in uk and abroad, and have not been charged a penny.

I think you only have to validate if you ask for an account from truphone by email, if you use the texting method then I think its set to validate automatically..

livfc
09-12-2006, 09:58 PM
Just made my first Truphone landline call! I changed my prod code using NSS to N80IE and went to the address in my original text but it still said phone not supported. Requested a new text and I was able to download the app and register. I am now really pleased because I get extremely poor GSM signal in my house so great that I can now make calls using WiFi! :-)

dunarea
09-12-2006, 10:44 PM
I think you only have to validate if you ask for an account from truphone by email, if you use the texting method then I think its set to validate automatically..
It didn't ask to validate my mobile number, but it did ask to validate my email address.

grpmiller
11-12-2006, 02:59 PM
Same happened to me. Someone posted details earlier in this thread relating to email registration via the Truphone Support Team, which worked for me.

By the way folks, once regsitered you must VALIDATE your email address and also your GSM number whilst logged into the Truphone My Account page. Until you do this, you are not eligible for any Free calls.

Dez, GSM validation is required and should take place automatically at sign up. Email validation is required to be able to top up and also adds the feature of voicemail delivered to your email for free.

grahamlyth
11-12-2006, 06:34 PM
I am on the Three X-series plan and i thought it would be good if i could use Truphone with my 3 internet connection but it seems it only works with my wireless network. Anyone knows if it's possible to use Truphone with any other type of internet connection apart from Wireless?

It works for me over a 3 packet data connection, just by setting the access point in the relevant SIP profile to "3". I was led to believe that there would be issues with latency, but it was fine when I tested it.

I'm on the Wireless Web 56 data package, if it makes a difference.

Graham

dunarea
11-12-2006, 06:50 PM
That's a good thing to know, thanx for letting me know Graham, i tried changing the access point in settings, but it always chooses the WLan, for a strange reason. I also searched on Truphone website, and they only refer to Wlan, don't say anything about packet data. I will give it another try.

dez_borders
11-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Dez, GSM validation is required and should take place automatically at sign up. Email validation is required to be able to top up and also adds the feature of voicemail delivered to your email for free.

Hi, thanks for the info. I could not get SMS signup to work so asked Tru Support to setup an account for me. I assume that's why I had several items to verify before I could get free calls?

Freaker67
13-12-2006, 09:25 PM
Anyone had a possibility and tried to connect Truphone, Gizmo or one of the other voip providers using a 3G connection? Will it still connect and is there enough bandwith for good call quality?

Cheers,

dunarea
13-12-2006, 09:55 PM
I asked the same question, someone said they did, but then didn't explain how. So far i've been unable to do it, and i am starting to believe it may not be possible, because truphone always selects the wireless lan connection or it says not wlan present, and doesn't give any option to choose from the other connections.

Freaker67
13-12-2006, 10:05 PM
I don't know how the exact connection process of 3G is technically working because I'm under consideration of it. But here in my connectionprofiles (menu>tools>settings>connection>access points) I see WLAN (blue) and provider profiles (yellow). These profiles are selectable when configuring the sip profiles (menu>tools>settings>connection>sip settings and selecting a desired profile > standard acces point). Therefor I thought connection with 3G should also be possible. But shoot when I'm wrong :con?

dunarea
13-12-2006, 10:18 PM
I don't know how the exact connection process of 3G is technically working because I'm under consideration of it. But here in my connectionprofiles (menu>tools>settings>connection>access points) I see WLAN (blue) and provider profiles (yellow). These profiles are selectable when configuring the sip profiles (menu>tools>settings>connection>sip settings and selecting a desired profile > standard acces point). Therefor I thought connection with 3G should also be possible. But shoot when I'm wrong :con?
I set up my 3 connection in Sip profiles, but when i go to the Internet Tel application, it is always showing only my wireless connection, and no 3G connection.

grahamlyth
14-12-2006, 12:09 AM
I asked the same question, someone said they did, but then didn't explain how. So far i've been unable to do it, and i am starting to believe it may not be possible, because truphone always selects the wireless lan connection or it says not wlan present, and doesn't give any option to choose from the other connections.

All you had to do is ask ;)

Go to your SIP settings, and choose one of the Truphone profiles that you don't normally use - I've set up Truphone-travel for use with 3G packet data.

Change the Default access point to 3 (or whatever your packet data access point is called).
In both Proxy Server and Registrar Server, change Transport type to TCP.

Then kick the registration by changing Registration to Always on - you should see your packet data connection start up, followed by the internet telephone icon (the globe with a telephone handset) a moment later. You can change the Registration to "When needed" again if you want, this way the registration will only take place when an internet call is attempted - being registered with the service in this way keeps a packet data connection open constantly, and you won't believe how fast the battery runs out :o If you want to disconnect from Truphone when you're registered, just hold down the red key to kill your packet data connection, although it will just go ahead and reconnect again straight away if the Registration setting is on "Always on".

It's worth nothing that the phone definitely prefers a Wi-fi connection - so much so it appears that even if your default SIP profile is set up with packet data, it will go for a non-default profile first if there is one that has it's Wi-fi access point in range. However, this can also be really convenient - for example, if I attempt an internet call when in range of my AP, then it connects with Wi-fi, if not then a packet data connection is used.

For this reason, whilst you're in the process of first setting up a SIP profile for packet data, it would probably be easier to temporarily switch off your Wi-fi.

Try dialling 130 via Truphone for an echo test, you can see how the latency is affecting your connection (or not).


Believe me now? :tongue:


Cheers,

Graham

dunarea
14-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Thanx a lot mate, it is working now. I tried the 130 and the latency is minimal. I will try a normal call tomorrow, as it's now too late (11.30 p.m.) This is a great thing as a WLan is not always in range when you need to make a call. I've got x-series silver (1GB of data per month) so i'm not worried about the costs of 3G. Happy now.

Freaker67
17-12-2006, 11:06 AM
Sometimes when I connect to unknown available WLAN's I get yellow mario stars, those which make immortal for a short while.
The star shows up in the internet call connection profiles and are related with only those ap's. Internet browsing is working then, but internet calling not. So what is the star saying? Is it some kind of check wheter the ap is closed for internet calling or not?

Anyone experienced this?

dunarea
17-12-2006, 12:02 PM
I get the same yellow star but on a different program. I set BestCall Recorder to record calls, but when i check it, there is a star next to the call it was supposed to record and it says 0 seconds.

James761
17-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Hey sorry I have been ina bit of a day dream over this Trphone, how do call a PC ?

md27514
13-01-2007, 09:48 PM
I have made tests on my E60 yesterday using t-mobile 3G. I have tested truphone and alternative configuration with my asterisk. I observed perfect quality with truphone (uses amr codec), with asterisk I had trouble in the upload direction (not enough bandwidth for g7.11), the other direction towards me worked well. But the good news it that it works, so it can be used when necessary. By changing codec to lower bandwith it can be also used with asterisk.

millssteven
21-01-2007, 10:39 PM
works, and works great. you have to flash to N80i, fw 4.0632.0.38, and just install the .sisx thats available from truphone. it works and ive already made a few calls with it. I bet truphone will never release it for the "N80". They'll just eventually announce support for N80 Internet Edition.

how do i get that specific firmware version?
just updated firmware using nokia software updater app and I now have V 4.0623.0.41

dunarea
22-01-2007, 07:56 PM
I have made tests on my E60 yesterday using t-mobile 3G. I have tested truphone and alternative configuration with my asterisk. I observed perfect quality with truphone (uses amr codec), with asterisk I had trouble in the upload direction (not enough bandwidth for g7.11), the other direction towards me worked well. But the good news it that it works, so it can be used when necessary. By changing codec to lower bandwith it can be also used with asterisk.
Is there any way to change codecs on the N80? I couldn't find any option.

Freaker67
23-01-2007, 12:30 PM
Is there any way to change codecs on the N80? I couldn't find any option.

Nokia has put these kinds of settings in a non accesable area for end-users. Only wizards/plugins like Truphone/Gizmo (to be developed with non released SDK) can put in these kinds of setings in your device.
Also see other thread about voip provisioning:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55835

zainman
01-03-2007, 10:41 PM
hi, can anyone tell me how i can merge two internet calls together to make a conference call?

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04-04-2007, 10:41 AM
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