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mgoodson45 23-11-2006, 04:52 PM I have been using N95 for the past week, and I must say I'm impressed with the features. Screen resolution is 240x320, however, it is very sharp and there is no blurry 3G icons like in E61.
There is an online GPS map, so I can track whereever I'm and download the map automatically over 3G or wireless. Note: Uses lots of traffic. Otherwise, GPS feature is great, I can use it in case of emergency or when hiking.
Camera and video is better than N93 at least.
Downsite: It's not a final release yet, so battery drain quite fast and some restart on use...
TV output rocks !
bras4real 23-11-2006, 05:45 PM I am thinking of swapping my N93 for the n95...But is buying the phone for mainly the 5 mill pix camera worth it? How is pic quality, acceptable?
GoodCop 23-11-2006, 10:09 PM Lovely phone...better video than N93? Sweet.
What it gets down to for me is if N93 will at all be able to somewhat benefit from FP1, like updating the web browser, for instance. If not, the N95 has another strong advantage. I hear they are at least considering it being possible. The only reason to why it wouldn't be possible (that I can see, anyway) is if Nokia used a web browser update as a lure to make present 3rd ed Nokia customers upgrade to a new phone. That would just be non ethical.
Did your pre release version have the newer web browser?
mgoodson45 24-11-2006, 03:11 PM I feel that the N93 and N95 has different market segment. For example: N93 has a swivel that allows the user to capture many angle of a scene, while N95 doesn't have one but rather a slider. N95 has GPS, Online map and N93 doesn't.
For those camera professional, I'd say N93 is the best bet albeit it has lower 3MP instead of 5MP. But what is the use of 5MP if you can't take it from the angle you wanted?
Picture quality at this point is acceptable but not the best, due to early software. This is normal at this point of stage. I'm testing more on the navigation.
I love the online map, so it doesn't matter where you are, you connect to the network and download the map from 3G network.
So for normal guy like me, I always carry my 10 MP camera with me whenever I am travelling, and my N95 is merely my phone, pda and casual/quick photo-taking device. For those with N93, you probably don't need another camera.
I know for sure with N95, I will not get lost and I can always send SMS my coordinate to anyone, so that at emergency situation, people can locate me.
Dogmann 24-11-2006, 08:13 PM Hi it certainly sounds like fun and i agree it is aimed at slightly different segments. I don't like slider phones and love the Laptop/Landscape mode of my N93 and the big tactile keypad, also i have a Holox GPS and Tom Tom 6 is built in GPS and maps is not really of value or interest. The extra couple of extra megapixels are not that important to me and must say Video playback with correctly encoded material is stunning on the N93 just needs A2DP IMO.
Marc
Orophin Anwarunya 25-11-2006, 02:09 AM FP1 cant be added to the N93 or any current 3rd gen handset. FP1 will come included in new released 3rd gen handsets ... N95, N93i (possibly), Samsung SGH-i520, LG Joy and so on.
N95 is quite more likened to the N73 as an evolution to that model. That being said, its an evolution to the S60 range as a whole and definately a step in the right direction. The N93 is still a very viable handset and you cant dismiss it even against the N95.
You can expect more hig powered deviced like this in the future from Nokia.
Please keep posting about your experiences mgoodson45, as it is very interesting to hear first hand from someone who has such an exciting device at this early stage, you have lots of keen ears here.
I think the N95 represents a significant advance over the N93 (as does the new N93i). It is clearly superior in every way, and that is good news. The ability to view the screen at a different angle to where the camera is pointing is a very minor issue in the real world I think - you just tilt your head instead for goodness sake! Hearing that camera and DVD are better is especially encouraging.
I would be interested to know how clear movie playback and other graphics (e.g. web etc) is on a TV screen. Am I right in thinking it outputs in a higher resolution that the N95's own screen?
Also, are there any 3D graphics/games that demonstrate the 3D chip in the N95, and what is your opinion?
Thanks for the posts,
Alex
GoodCop 26-11-2006, 10:00 PM I think the N95 represents a significant advance over the N93 (as does the new N93i). It is clearly superior in every way, and that is good news.
Alex
True, it is superior in most external features, but if I'm not totally wrong; the CPU, the clocked speed and the 3D chip are the same. So unless the larger system memory makes a big difference for a single app, you'll have the same impressive 3D stuff on the N93 and they'll run the same software just as good...in theory anyway. :-)
In fact, mgoodson45, if you'd like to stop over at http://www.jbenchmark.com/ and run a javabench and post the score here, I'd be terribly interested in the results.
erehman 27-11-2006, 04:05 AM Dear Sir,
Can you help where can I download a video shot with N95 from? Is there any site of yours where you can upload it for me? I'll be grateful.
mgoodson45 27-11-2006, 07:18 PM I'll try the JavaBench later on and post some pictures shortly. These result wouldn't matter much though, as this is an early stage and the end result may be well improved/different than at this stage.
As for the TV output, It works great. I tried to display some pictures yesterday and it basically the full screen of your TV size (mine is still 4:3). On normal screen mode (menu), it'll not be full screen. No problem with the resolution that I can see of.
I'm not aware of any graphics/games software that uses the 3D engines at this time. May be if there is one for N93, It may work for N95 too.
Result: http://www.jbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=pro&resultid=1724&D=unknown
(exception handling happens at the start of apps and ended with some error message). Result doesn't reflect the end result, this is an early software.
mperuc 27-11-2006, 08:40 PM What about the flash is it better? Can it be comparable to sonys k800i?
GoodCop 27-11-2006, 08:54 PM Result: http://www.jbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=pro&resultid=1724&D=unknown
(exception handling happens at the start of apps and ended with some error message). Result doesn't reflect the end result, this is an early software.
Thanks a mil for testing, mgoodson45, but I can't access the link since it's only available when logged in as you. Think it's possible for you to cut n' paste the results here?
BTW ran their ARM jBenchmark ACE beta software (it's available under menu "early access" when logged in), and it identified the N93 ARM11 CPU running at 319Mhz with Jazelle not enabled. It's actually the first software I've seen that identifies and displays the N93 CPU at its actual(?) speed, altough I've also heard numbers like 330Mhz before. That's probably what the N95 is running at as well.
Jules_N93 28-11-2006, 12:24 AM 319Mhz =d
mgoodson45 28-11-2006, 09:32 PM JBenchmark Pro Result details
Test results
3D Rendering Quality: Z-buffer Precision 99.8%
Composite Business - LQ 757 Frames
Camera Shooting Speed Failed / Not supported
Composite CarRace - HQ Failed / Not supported
Composite Business - HQ 274 Frames
3D Rendering Quality: Sub Pixel Precision 100%
3D Rendering Quality: Bilinear Filter 99%
Chess 13
Business math 254
Audio - MP3 Failed / Not supported
Audio - MIDI Failed / Not supported
3D Rendering Quality: Trilinear Filter 96%
Business Charts 164 Frames
3D Rendering Quality: Perspective Correction 99%
Composite Business - MQ 459 Frames
HTTP specific details
HTTP User Agent UNTRUSTED/1.0
WAP Profile null
JVM general
Memory 424960
JVM display
Alpha Levels 256
Color Display true
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Canvas Full Size 240x320
GameCanvas Full Size 240x320
Number of Colors 16777216
Canvas Size 240x235
Form Size 231x234
GameCanvas Size 240x235
JVM configuration
CLDC Version 1.1
ME Configuration CLDC-1.1
ME Profiles MIDP-2.0
ME Encoding ISO-8859-1
Platform NokiaN95/1.43.049
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ME Locale en
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M3G True Color false
M3G Local Camera Lighting false
M3G Mipmapping true
M3G Max. Lights 8
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M3G Max. Viewport Height 1024
M3G Max. Viewport Width 1024
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Graphics Directory Name Graphics
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Photos Directory Name Images
Recordings Directory file:///C:/Data/Sounds/Digital/
Recordings Directory Name Sound clips
Storage Directory Name Private
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Tones Directory Name Tones
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Videos Directory Name Video clips
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GoodCop 28-11-2006, 10:41 PM Thank you, that was quite interesting! Most scores are quite a bit lower than the über N93 ones found at jbenchmark.com, but almost up to par with what I get when running those benchmarks with my N93.
Basically proves they are very similar beasts at core, all glorious 5mpixel and GPS bling bling aside. :)
mweb6161 29-11-2006, 04:44 PM Thank you, that was quite interesting! Most scores are quite a bit lower than the über N93 ones found at jbenchmark.com, but almost up to par with what I get when running those benchmarks with my N93.
Basically proves they are very similar beasts at core, all glorious 5mpixel and GPS bling bling aside. :)
Not forgetting the significant reduction in size/weight.
Just HOW bad is the battery?, that's the make or break issue on this device!!
mgoodson45 29-11-2006, 09:57 PM I would foresee the performance and battery life will go up significantly when the code has matured. You're now looking at early versions.
Let's keep the battery and other performance issues until it is stable.
mperuc 30-11-2006, 10:00 PM What about the flash is it updated , can it be comparable to sony k800??
mackarus 01-12-2006, 07:18 PM Can you confirm if you can play youtube videos with the web browser?
http://thenokiablog.com/2006/11/26/youtube-or-flash-works-fine-on-the-nokia-n95/
Milhouse 02-12-2006, 09:08 PM Does anyone know if the built-in GPS in the N95 can be used with external devices over Bluetooth, for example using the N95 as a GPS device with mapping software running on a Nokia 770?
CAF_2 03-12-2006, 08:52 PM OK GUYS, VIDEO BASICALLY SHOULDNT BE BETTER ON N95
THE OPTICS ARE BETTER ON N93 AS WELL AS MACRO AND ZOOM
damn, sry caps
n93: video Zoom: (optical / digital) 3x / up to 8x
photo: Exposure compensation: +1 ~ -1EV at 0.5 step || Focal length 4.5 mm (Wide) /12.4 mm (Tele) 34.25 - 94.1 mm(35mm equiv.)
more: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v2/media/product/tech_specs/en-US/tech_specs_n93_en_US.html?lang=en&country=US "see new"
n93: video Zoom: Digital up to 10x (VGA up to 4x)
photo: Exposure compensation: +2 ~ -2EV at 0.5 step|| Focal length 5.6 mm
more: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v2/media/product/tech_specs/en-US/tech_specs_n95_en_US.html?lang=en&country=US#2"see new"
or am i wrong about video zoom?
also, n95 and n93 have the same proccessors, n95 has more RAM which IS really (64 Mb, i think) the only thing that sux is that 2gb memmory cards are too small, i mean, like for me 4 gb would be perfect
n93 and n95 have the same screen resolution so since n95's screen is larger, does image change any worse?
i also really like n95's menu in horizoontal mode-really niice
although iunno wat to buy, i like n93's design better, and video is very important for me. if n93i going to support 4gb minisd-HD im pretty sure ill buy it, although its not that good on front panel
im gonna get a phone approximately on january 5th-10th
mgoodson45 , i understand that u have ur "ways" of getting that phone(its not in the stores yet, so obviously...)
can u find any sort of info on n93i by any chance? that would be great
btw if uve seen pictures taken by n93, can u compare them to n95's and comment on them .
thx a lot
p.s.: its been mentioned that n93i gonna record movies in "dvd" , not "dvd-like" quality
later
pseudofinn 04-12-2006, 07:53 PM yes... how about this youtube?
Also... I know a lot of people want to know (but haven't asked for some reason yet?)- how long does it take to get off a shot? I'm asking both how long does it take for the camera application to "ready up" and about the shutter lag- is it as snappy as we hope, or since it's a 5mp- is it worse than some of these horrible 3mp phone cams?
Thanks for answering our questions. I'm sure we all appreciate it very much. It would be nice to know if the n95 can view youtube videos as well!
Wait! Just read in a previous post from you- in the readout for the benchmarks... bluetooth 1.0? It does have 2.0, correct?
thanks mgoodson!
pseudofinn 05-12-2006, 04:57 PM I've just read from a few sources that the n95 has a mechanical shutter.
1/1000th of a second lag. Can you confirm this and youtube?
andybill 05-12-2006, 07:05 PM Hallo, i have been looking all over the internet, but i can't find a video recorded by the nokia n95. And i looks like you have the phone, so i wonder if could record a video, and upload it somewhere, so we can se the quality.. please.
:)
Thanks in advance ;)
Can u play youtube vids on S60 os webbrowser???
CAF_2 08-12-2006, 09:59 PM guys gusy
check out this hi-q pictures of n93i
on spy picutres it looked pretty ugly(the mirror surface), but now-its much better
anyway, check it out and comment(or is there a link to n93i forum, plz post it)
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=56094&page=3
and here is n93 internet edition
http://www.symbianwatch.com/more-nokia-internet-editions-coming-soon.html
sry for offtopic
pseudofinn 08-12-2006, 10:12 PM So....
is mgoodson gone now?
andybill 10-12-2006, 08:23 PM He hasen't postet for some time, maybe he's on vacation or something. :con? Or maybe he just dont care...
mgoodson45 12-12-2006, 03:34 AM I was away for sometime... There is a few pictures that I'd like to share, but the website doesn't allow 900+kb attachment.
Any idea? don't have/use flickr....
YouTube.com doesn't work, it require flash plug-ins. I'm not aware of any flash plug-ins for symbian browsers at the moment.
Video recording doesn't work well at the moment, no sound.
Picture quality is good, but not the best.
Reminder: This is an early software, current result does not indicate the end result.
Milhouse 12-12-2006, 03:46 AM Any idea if Nokia will allow the internal GPS to be used with external mapping/navigation devices over Bluetooth?
Or maybe the current software makes it impossible to tell at this stage.
mgoodson45 12-12-2006, 04:51 AM There will be a default Map provided which automatically download map for your current location in the world. There is also another option for a local map that offer navigation and detailed map using the internal GPS.
I haven't tried TomTom and others due to limited time I have, but it should allow the usage of internal GPS.
What could be more interesting is to use N95 as a Bluetooth GPS and you have other PDA as the map viewer/navigation. Not sure if this is possible ....
andybill 12-12-2006, 02:36 PM Hallo mgoodson45, welcome back! You can upload the pictures on imageshack (http://imageshack.us/) Do you have any other GPS device then N95 at the movment? If yes, how well does the N95 work compared the that one? and does it onley work outdoor, and is the connection between the n95 and the sattelite stable?
Thanks! I relly appreciate your answers! ;)
jac57 16-12-2006, 10:49 AM does n95 have a barcode scanner
mgoodson45 19-12-2006, 01:38 AM Yes, it does have a barcode scanner.
I just upgraded to newer software, it is much more stable now. Crashes now seldom and resets are rare. Battery life significantly improved.
If you wanted to have better preview, someone has posted a video of it:
http://cache.libsyn.com/mb/wtf-061212-nokia_n95_preview.mp4
All I like about this phone is the GPS and Maps, they are fascinating. I wouldn't trouble you to look at the picture at this point, some work is still needed.
tsupatsupa 19-12-2006, 12:20 PM I was away for sometime... There is a few pictures that I'd like to share, but the website doesn't allow 900+kb attachment.
Any idea? don't have/use flickr....
YouTube.com doesn't work, it require flash plug-ins. I'm not aware of any flash plug-ins for symbian browsers at the moment.
Video recording doesn't work well at the moment, no sound.
Picture quality is good, but not the best.
Reminder: This is an early software, current result does not indicate the end result.
Are you for real???
You have posted this N95 thread November 2006 and up to know, you cant provide any snapshot and images taken from N95..
And you just give links to other sites that have 'live' pictures/videos of N95.
Seriously???
andybill 19-12-2006, 08:01 PM I think mgoodson45 is a very busy man. :) I'am glad to hear that the battery is improved. Just what's needed. Anyway, i still have some questions:
-Does the integrated GPS work indoor? , And generally how stable is the GPS connection?
-Do you you know which GPS chip it is?
-How strong is the integrated "flash"? maybe you can compare it with previous phones like the N80?
-And what do you think of the w-lan function? Does it work well? Is it stable?
Hope you have some time to answer my questions, ;) thanks in advance!
mgoodson45 20-12-2006, 02:08 AM 1) Yup, it worked in door if you have an 'opening/window' in your rooms. Like most other GPS devices, the signal is not strong enough to penetrate walls, etc. It even very sensitive to folliage e.g. tall buildinds, etc.
I was a bit surprised when I sat down in a sofa next to a window, I managed to get a GPS lock. GPS connection is what expected of other GPS, as long as you have the application open, it won't take long to re-fix the signal after you entered tunnel, etc. If you close the application, it is a different story.
2) Not sure about the GPS chip, but there is one caveat.
The GPS antennae is located at the bottom of the unit, just below the numeric keypad of *, 0 and #. As you can see the numeric keypad is overlapped by the slider (S60 keys - Red, Green, menu, etc). So to get a fast fix or a fix at all, you may need to slide open the phone and let it 'see the sky'.
I haven 't tested much if it's closed, but it doesn't matter. You ought to have a cradle in your car, then just let the unit in slide-out position.
3) I haven't tested much on the camera, but the flash is very bright e.g. N70, N80 at least comparable if not more.
4) WLAN works well just like S60v3.0 devices. Tested with Open and WEP networks.
I think mgoodson45 is a very busy man. :) I'am glad to hear that the battery is improved. Just what's needed. Anyway, i still have some questions:
-Does the integrated GPS work indoor? , And generally how stable is the GPS connection?
-Do you you know which GPS chip it is?
-How strong is the integrated "flash"? maybe you can compare it with previous phones like the N80?
-And what do you think of the w-lan function? Does it work well? Is it stable?
Hope you have some time to answer my questions, ;) thanks in advance!
mgoodson45 20-12-2006, 02:13 AM All of this information sharing is on voluntary basis and you should treat it on 'as-is' basis.
There is a fine thread of what I can and I can't say. What is the virtue of posting a photograph if it doesn't reflect the end-result? I can grab any photo and edit the exif to N95. Posting a photo with N95 exif, doesn't mean one has the phone.
Are you for real???
You have posted this N95 thread November 2006 and up to know, you cant provide any snapshot and images taken from N95..
And you just give links to other sites that have 'live' pictures/videos of N95.
Seriously???
tsupatsupa 20-12-2006, 04:15 PM [QUOTE=Posting a photo with N95 exif, doesn't mean one has the phone.[/QUOTE]
Posting also doesnt mean one has the phone..
Its just so 'amusing' that i have read some posts like this on different forums and would usually give links to other sites.
And i just dont get it how come you cant provide any snapshot/s of your N95?
You also mentioned you dont use flikr, should you really want to share, why not create an account. To think you also mentioned you have 10mpx digital camera, is it really that hard to take a picture of your N95. I was not asking for pictures taken with N95.
Oh well, maybe i will just treat it as an "as is basis' as what you have said.
Happy Holidays!!!
tinonaama 20-12-2006, 07:02 PM maybe nokia hasn't finished on the phonE cAmyra software... who knows... i dont...
andybill 20-12-2006, 08:09 PM There are pictures taken with the N95 prototype, if it makes you happy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/team-u/323023141/
Milhouse 21-12-2006, 04:13 AM What could be more interesting is to use N95 as a Bluetooth GPS and you have other PDA as the map viewer/navigation. Not sure if this is possible ....
That's what I was hoping for - to use the N95 with a Nokia 770 (or it's successor, or any other BT-enabled PDA-type device).
The Nokia 770 now has navigation software available for it (from Nokia! Also OSS variants) and the N95 could feed the GPS coordinates to the 770 mapping software over bluetooth. A perfect combination! :)
Fingers crossed...
mgoodson45 25-12-2006, 06:16 AM Photos taken with my N95. The second one was with landscape mode (instead of automatic).
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3892/23122006003fp3.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6821/23122006005wd2.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3076/23122006006ba4.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4571/23122006007mk9.jpg
I don't think there is a way to use n95's internal GPS by other devices. Btw the new N770 is totally a new generation. You could find the pictures on the net...
skypine27 06-01-2007, 12:02 AM When's this thing going to hit Sim Lim in Singapore?
Twinnie 16-01-2007, 04:38 PM So is it slower than the N93? I fancy the N95 for the GPS but I'm not getting rid of it if the N95's slower cos I like the idea of Vampent getting that emulator fast enough to play SNES games on the go.
Liquid_Li0n 25-01-2007, 09:01 PM You wrote a short sentence about the flash from the camera, can you be more clearly about it. What I want to know is the following:
Is the flash really white? Or is it still blue'ish like the N70?
And how about the shutterlag when taking pictures in normal and night mode? e.g. N70 is really slow
How is the interface? Is it really smooth or still like on the previous symbian devices that when you push the menu key when you booted up the phone it takes some time.
awaiting your answer!
vichua77 21-02-2007, 06:14 AM There will be a default Map provided which automatically download map for your current location in the world. There is also another option for a local map that offer navigation and detailed map using the internal GPS.
I haven't tried TomTom and others due to limited time I have, but it should allow the usage of internal GPS.
What could be more interesting is to use N95 as a Bluetooth GPS and you have other PDA as the map viewer/navigation. Not sure if this is possible ....
Hi, nice reading your first hand information.Do you have any chance to meddle with the office application.Is it easy to navigate with the mouse or keyboard on the excel file?
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