View Full Version : Nokia now supports home FW updates for certain models of phone!! (inc N70, N72)


steve_perry
21-08-2006, 02:57 PM
http://www.nokia.co.uk/softwareupdate

Check this out!! :cool: Nokia are now supporting owners by providing software to upgrade your handset's FirmWare.

I know a few members have been using the hacked Phoenix/ dogtoe route but at least there is now a legit way to upgrade your phone if you can't wait for a Nokia Service Centre.

Only limited number of models supported but I am told that this will grow with time.

S.

karimnacer
21-08-2006, 04:31 PM
Thank's man thenk you very much for the news!!
I hope i can fix the switch off problem... :(

damien.nimai
22-08-2006, 05:18 AM
Just upgraded mine perfectly.. Just remember to back up your phone memory to the memory card :-)

Talonso
22-08-2006, 09:35 AM
Just upgraded mine perfectly.. Just remember to back up your phone memory to the memory card :-)

Which is the latest version available for N70 (I guess the one you've installed). I can not see any reference in the website

steve_perry
22-08-2006, 10:05 AM
Which is the latest version available for N70 (I guess the one you've installed). I can not see any reference in the websiteDepends on which network you are on... I know that generic and Orange are on V5.xxx not sure about Vodafone, O2, T-Mobile, 3 etc. The latest Orange fw for the N70 now gives you the option to switch off the much maligned Orange HomeScreen.

S.

Mushy2k
22-08-2006, 03:56 PM
Depends on which network you are on... I know that generic and Orange are on V5.xxx not sure about Vodafone, O2, T-Mobile, 3 etc. The latest Orange fw for the N70 now gives you the option to switch off the much maligned Orange HomeScreen.

S.


Hi there i just upgraded the firmware on my orange n70 ,i noticed you said that the orange menu can now be turned off could you please tell me how to do this many Thx :)

Mushy2k
22-08-2006, 04:01 PM
Just replying to my own post i just found out how to do it :)

Elite
22-08-2006, 04:18 PM
Has anyone had any success updating an N70 with the generic v2.0536.0.2 firmware (to the latest version: 5.0616.2.0.3) ?

When I run the Software Updater application, it just advises, after a minute or two, that no (newer) software version is available. The phone has an Orange PAYG sim (unlocked).

As 2.0536.0.2 is Nokia's own version of the firmware, I am wondering if there is a problem with their database (which cross references earlier firmware versions to the latest).

I bought the phone from Expansys UK last year & from memory, think that the firmware is the first version that Nokia released (12-09-2005).

-Liam-
22-08-2006, 04:45 PM
Hi guys.

thanks for the link, excellent stuff. Updated with no probs but one question....

The version of the firmwear showing on my phone is v3.0546.2.3, 18-11-05, RM-84.

Not entirely sure what the exact version was before but it looks exactly the same version number and the date is still showing 18-11-05 as though no update took place. However the installer downloaded the files and the installed them (took about 15 minutes all in) and when i check for updates it now says my phone is running the latest version of softwear available...Shouldn't it of updated the version and version date or is that not the case?...

tiger42
22-08-2006, 07:06 PM
I've also just updated my N70 with the Nokia software.
My old firmware version was 2.0539.1.2 (Vodafone branded), my new version is 5.0616.2.0.3 (Vodafone too).
The update did not proceed as flawlessly as I would expect it to...
I took me about three or four restarts of the phone until the software detected the connection to the phone. The software finally downloaded the firmware then (took about 15 minutes). Then 12 minutes later (the progress bar of the flashing process was at around 95% then) the flash process suddenly stopped and displayed "software update failed" (or similar, I was too shocked to write it down ;)). My phone was frozen then, I had to take out the battery to switch it off (it still showed the screen saver). Of course I did not really expect that I would be able to switch it on again. After the first try it seemed to restart itself over and over again (it only showed 'Nokia', nothing more), then after the second try it successfully started!
I've just restored all my settings and programs and everything seems to work fine now... :)

shandy1948
22-08-2006, 07:55 PM
I'm also having problems. The upgrader recognised my N70, and began downloading the new firmware. It got about 1/3 through and then appeared to stop. I left it for another 20 minutes - and it made no further progress. I pressed 'cancel' and disconnected the phone.

The phone seems to be working fine - but still with old (awful) Orange firmware.

Any ideas?

steve_perry
22-08-2006, 10:14 PM
I'm also having problems. The upgrader recognised my N70, and began downloading the new firmware. It got about 1/3 through and then appeared to stop. I left it for another 20 minutes - and it made no further progress. I pressed 'cancel' and disconnected the phone.

The phone seems to be working fine - but still with old (awful) Orange firmware.

Any ideas?I dunno what to say or suggest :con? My phone, N70 also on Orange, upgraded flawlessly without any skipping heartbeats. No fail messages at all, I guess the entire process took about 10mins. The latest Orange FW (V5) is so much better than the old version I had (V2).

S.

damien.nimai
23-08-2006, 01:38 AM
Which is the latest version available for N70 (I guess the one you've installed). I can not see any reference in the website
Howdy,

Mines been upgraded from 2.xxx to 5.0616.2.0.3 24/04/06....

Took all of 10 mins.

Best thing is I now have ACTIVE STANDBY which for some reason my provider (3 australia) blocked me from using with their firmware :)

Elite
23-08-2006, 12:00 PM
Can anyone confirm if they have been able to upgrade handsets with *generic* (i.e. non operator branded) firmware ?

From looking at a number of forums inc Nokia's, I havent seen anyone who has done this.

I have had an email from Nokia customer service advising that the software updater supports generic & operator branded firmware, however, I am not sure this is true (as I cannot upgrade my N70 with generic v2.0536.0.2 firmware - the service just advises that no newer firmware is available).

Thanks

Rafe
23-08-2006, 04:16 PM
Elite - both branded and generic firmware are supported. You may end up with different version numbers depending on when the various variants were updated.

Elite
23-08-2006, 04:46 PM
Elite - both branded and generic firmware are supported. You may end up with different version numbers depending on when the various variants were updated.

Rafe, thanks for confirming this. I know that the service is supposed to support generic firmware, it just doesnt appear to be working for me!

Nokia have suggested I speak to the retailer who sold me the handset which sounds like a cop out to me. I bought my N70 sim free from Expansys last Sept so it has the first publicly available generic firmware (2.xx) issued by Nokia themselves. The phone is not locked or branded in anyway & in all respects is working well (albeit a bit slow) so I cannot see what help Expansys could be.

I have also posted a comment on the Expansys forum for the N70 asking for confirmation from anyone who has been able to upgrade their sim free (generic) N70.

The funny thing is, I am not that bothered about actually upgrading my N70 as I now have an N73 (also with generic firmware), but just wanted to test the update service to see how easy it was to use for future reference.

N/A
23-08-2006, 05:42 PM
If the device has operator branded firmware, the update will be to the latest branded firmware from the same operator. You can't change from operator branded firmware to unbranded/retail firmware (or another operator's variant) with the Nokia tool.

Elite
23-08-2006, 06:38 PM
If the device has operator branded firmware, the update will be to the latest branded firmware from the same operator. You can't change from operator branded firmware to unbranded/retail firmware (or another operator's variant) with the Nokia tool.

N/A, not sure if you meant to post here or another thread ?

If you did mean to post to this thread, I know that the software updater wont allow a branded version of firmware to be upgraded to non branded. My point is that my phone is & also has been unbranded & to my knowledge there have been at least 2-3 generic firmware versions since the N70 was released a year ago, therefore the service should support generic (old) -> generic (new) upgrades.

Stezo2k
23-08-2006, 07:00 PM
Great news :D my phones a lot faster now

I was going to get my firmware flashed at my local service centre but they wanted Ģ20

glad I waited

scissorkicks
23-08-2006, 07:09 PM
Is anyone else trying to update right now (8pm, 23rd August 2006)? It's really REALLY slow at the moment. I'd say it's about 10% done (judging by the progress bar - note to Nokia, a slightly more informative interface would be great and stop us worrying so much!) and has taken about half an hour so far.

It's a new service though, so maybe it's just swamped.

EinZtein
23-08-2006, 08:49 PM
N/A, not sure if you meant to post here or another thread ?

If you did mean to post to this thread, I know that the software updater wont allow a branded version of firmware to be upgraded to non branded. My point is that my phone is & also has been unbranded & to my knowledge there have been at least 2-3 generic firmware versions since the N70 was released a year ago, therefore the service should support generic (old) -> generic (new) upgrades.
I'm right there with you Elite, unbranded n70 fw 2xxx.

Want to upgrade to the latest fw, doesn't seem worth to potential trouble.

I don't have any probs with it now and really, how much faster can it be?

Elite
23-08-2006, 09:31 PM
I'm right there with you Elite, unbranded n70 fw 2xxx.

Want to upgrade to the latest fw, doesn't seem worth to potential trouble.

I don't have any probs with it now and really, how much faster can it be?

EinZtein, can I ask you a favour - could you try downloading the software updater & running it just to see whether it generates the same response as I got when you connect your phone i.e. "no software updates available" ? You will be prompted if it does finds a new firmware version (& you can choose not to install this).

If the newer 5.xxx firmware is listed for your phone, this would suggest there may be something odd with mine (I have tried it with both an Orange and a Virgin PAYG sim just to rule network provider issues out of the equation - but figured this would make no difference on an unbranded handset - which appears to be the case as no newer firmware was suggested).

The download & install process for the software updater only takes a couple of mins although it can take a couple of mins for the app to check the nokia servers for the relevant firmware update.

I dont know how much faster the 5.xxx generic firmware is & I have not been able to install it (obviously:rolleyes: ) however, although probably not a fair comparison, you certainly notice how much faster the N73 is (even with the initial firmware) in comparison (i.e. I have always found opening text msgs pretty slow on the N70 with the 2.xxx firmware).

If you would rather not do this or dont have time, no problem :)

nj7
23-08-2006, 09:31 PM
Have always improvements in new OS. So You should do that. A lot of people have donne, without problems. But if You are not sure about, go to a Nokia Service Center, and they do that for free.

scissorkicks
23-08-2006, 10:50 PM
Well that was a bit more hassle than I'd hoped.

Tried downloading the software after 11pm and it was much speedier.

First update failed for no obvious reason, and the phone had gone to the Nokia white screen.

Disconnected the phone, restarted, then reconnected. This update worked fine - early in the update process Windows found a new device (Nokia ADL Loader or something similar). All seems to be working fine and NO MORE ORANGE HOMESCREEN :) (You can switch it off in Tools > Settings > Phone > Standby Mode)

lovemeguls
24-08-2006, 08:41 AM
THIS IS VINAY FROM INDIA I HAVE PURCHASED A NOKIA N70 IN SINGAPORE WITH FIRMWARE VERSION V 5.0609.2.0.1 I WANT THIS VERSION TO BE UPDATED BUT THE PROB IS I DONT HAVE THE NOKIA SOFTWARE UPDATER AND ANY 1 CAN GUIDE ME HOW TO DO THE UPDATION THROUGH EXE FILE DOWNLOADED FROM NOKIA UK SITE::::: IMPORTANT IN INDIA MOBILES ARE OPERATOR INDEPENDANT.. HERE ALL R GSM IF I DONT LIKE THE OPERATORS PERFORMANCE NO AGREEMENTS NOTHING JUS THROWING THE SIM AWAY AND TAKING ANOTHER OPS NEW CARD.. THATS IT PURELY OPERATOR INDEPENDANT HERE THANKS IN ADVANCE PLZ SEND MAIL TO lovemeguls@yahoo.co.in AND bnagavinay@rediffmail.com THANKS

slimgrip
24-08-2006, 10:29 AM
Just upgraded my T-mobile N70 via the nokia app, very nerve racking as 1st attempt i got an upgrade failed message :(

Tried again & succeeded.

FW now....

F/W V5.0609.2.0.1
01-03-06
RM-84

I was wondering if the tool scans your current firmware for the operator branding or your sim card. If it scans the sim card what would happen if you put a PAY AS U GO sim in the phone for the upgrade?

My T-mobile currently accepts Easy-Mobile, Virgin & T-mobile pay as u go sims.

Just a thought
Slim

zero3son
24-08-2006, 07:19 PM
http://www.nokia.co.uk/softwareupdate

Check this out!! :cool: Nokia are now supporting owners by providing software to upgrade your handset's FirmWare.

I know a few members have been using the hacked Phoenix/ dogtoe route but at least there is now a legit way to upgrade your phone if you can't wait for a Nokia Service Centre.

Only limited number of models supported but I am told that this will grow with time.

S.
Hello I have a Nokia 6630 from Japan (702NK in Japan). Just wandering if I can upgrade my firmware from the link you provided.

hugosnel
25-08-2006, 08:01 AM
Hi there i just upgraded the firmware on my orange n70 ,i noticed you said that the orange menu can now be turned off could you please tell me how to do this many Thx :)


It seems that you have discovered it yourself, would you please share your findings?
Thank You in advance.

Cockney Rebal
25-08-2006, 10:20 AM
It appears you need a min of 256Mb free RAM on your PC to do this, its not mentioned anywhere in the Requirements, but when I tried to upgrade yesterday that was the message I got. Oh well I needed to add more anyway.

macwhu
25-08-2006, 04:20 PM
i too have a generic unbranded n70 (from onedaymobile) and i get the same no updates available. :(

Elite
25-08-2006, 06:50 PM
i too have a generic unbranded n70 (from onedaymobile) and i get the same no updates available. :(

Macwhu, thanks for this. I have been waiting for someone else to confirm this both here, on the Expansys forum (where I bought the phone), the Nokia forum & a couple of others. However, a couple of the other forums (which shall remain nameless) seem to mostly consist of fanboys endlessly discussing rumours about new models or posting N70 vs N73 vs N93 vs K800 comparison photos.:) The release of this update service, which could be genuinely useful, doesnt really seem to have registered.

Unfortunately, the one place where this issue (generic firmware support) is likely to be confirmed one way or the other: i.e. the Nokia forum, I cannot post on, as the registration process seems to have broken (I have been waiting 3 days for my new user validation mail).

Anyway, although the two of us dont exactly make the findings conclusive, early signs are that, contrary to what Nokia customer services are advising, the Update Service doesnt (yet) support generic firmware.

At this point, I am going to park this issue, retire my N70 to my phone museum & get back to my N73. Hopefully, in a few months, by the time the next firmware update is out for the N73 (which is all I am really bothered about), Nokia will have fixed the Update Service. Good luck to everyone else in the meantime with an N70 & generic firmware.

EinZtein
25-08-2006, 07:26 PM
Elite, I love to try, but I am dependant on my device for work for 24/7 support, I have a VPN client on my n70 and use it to reboot servers that have websites down, so I can't take the chance.

And I don't have any probs with my n70 now, sans a couple bluetooth hang ups a week tethering from my PC, also not really sure how much faster it can get, most screens come up in a second or two at the most.

Just too much risk for me for improvements I MIGHT see.

Maybe if I get brave next week or bored.

Elite
25-08-2006, 08:13 PM
Elite, I love to try, but I am dependant on my device for work for 24/7 support, I have a VPN client on my n70 and use it to reboot servers that have websites down, so I can't take the chance....

EinZtein, sorry, I probably wasnt very clear with my post - you dont actually have to carry out the firmware update on your N70, you just need to see if the Update Service can find a newer firmware image on Nokia's web server. If & when it does, you would be prompted to install it (so in your case, you would just cancel the app & exit). However, it does look like you will get the same response as others with generic firmware i.e. "no software updates available".

btw, using that VPN client on the N70 must be like trying to paint your hallway through your letterbox isnt it ?;)

Liquid_Li0n
25-08-2006, 09:07 PM
I will try the update right away and I hope al the languages on the phone will stay the same, but what I feel strange is that when you go to your countr personal nokia site (in my situation it is Belgium) and I go the same way as the uk site I can't find something about the fireware upgrade possibilty. Is it maybe only possible for the UK?

I dled from the nokia UK site the software for the upgrades but where do I find the newest firmware, is it installed when running the Nokia Software Updater? Because I want to charge my phone with some UK branded Firmware.

I from Belgium on Mobistar so I got an almost generic firmware.

hugosnel
25-08-2006, 09:41 PM
I loaded the nokia update software today and started to update.
It needs to be mentioned that I already experienced intermittend connection hangups with my N70 on the usb commection. The connection only worked after a reboot of the fone ...
Anyway the software connected, inspected the fone and downloaded an update. Once the updtae was being effected the fone went DEAD!

I am waiting for a replacement from Orange. Could it be that The Orange version can not be updated with the nokia softaware updater? Or must the fone be deblocked before??

I will read all advices before reupdating!!
regards!

Stezo2k
25-08-2006, 09:44 PM
The orange version can be updated, I did that on mine and it updates like normal

Sounds like a bad flash

hugosnel
25-08-2006, 09:48 PM
I think that the connection was unreliable, I wonder why I had the usb problems.

Stezo2k
25-08-2006, 09:50 PM
Its always best to make sure there are no apps are running in the background while you're doing it tbh and the same goes with the phone too

hugosnel
25-08-2006, 10:04 PM
I have just bought the n90. No apps installed (yet).
Being new to all this stuff I hope to get my Nemerix BT77 GPS installed under Bluetooth with a Jabra earpice for navigation on my Motorbike. (i think i opt for tomtom mobile)
I would also like to use it for offshore navigation .. any ideas???
I also hope to find a way to control my webserver while on the road ... any ideas folks??
Hope the new one will come in early tomorrow!

Liquid_Li0n
25-08-2006, 10:12 PM
maybe the best to do is to backup, remove the MMC, reboot the phone and then start the update.
But It seems though only UK people are doing the flashing of the N70
I Want to read some experiences from Belgian users too

Drofidnas
25-08-2006, 10:14 PM
Great!

I've just spent 30 minutes updating from v3.0546.2.3 to... v3.0546.2.3.

I tried it again and realised that what it had said was "Your software is already up to date, you can reinstall it if you wish" which is what I obviously did do.

So why no new v5.xx update for me??!

I'm on o2.

macwhu
29-08-2006, 08:35 AM
yep i tried again this morning and no joy
at least it almost immediatly told me there was no updates this time
rather than waiting ages.

when it connects is says its a "Nokia N70 (RM-84)"

its an unbranded ivory /pearl one. bought not long after launch

mamoo_51
29-08-2006, 11:53 AM
Im on o2 as well and cant get v5... yet.

The first time i upgraded my firmware in the nokia shop i asked the guy there why it only went up to v3 as i knew v5 was available and he told me that each network has their own firmware version. So, although nokia may have released a generic v5 to all operators, until o2 certify it for use with their network and finish making any adjustments they deem necessary it looks like we are all stuck with out of date software :frown:

Seems a bit strange to me as o2 appear to be one of few opperators who dont alter the generic firmware that much themselves unlike orange and their dreaded "home" screen or whatever its called. Guess we just have to wait and see if they ever bother releasing their version or not. It may be that the updates in v5 are of no use to o2 customers at the moment so they dont see the point in releasing it :con?

Drofidnas
29-08-2006, 06:05 PM
Thanks for the info Mamoo, though I can't see how O2 can make the decision on what's important for their customers.

Simple things like minimising the music player and having the track info on the main screen is neither here nor there as far as they're concerned!

Just spoke to the clueless o2 woman and had to explain what firmware was.. "off to a winner here", I thought.. :)

Anyway she contacted "technical" and they said that any O2 store would be able to upgrade to v5 for you.. which countermands what you've said and also defeats the object of sitting on your arse and doing it over the wire..

mamoo_51
30-08-2006, 04:06 PM
Like i said, i dont understand why they wont release v5 either as i dont see how o2 even alter the generic firmware in the first place. I just wish they'd hurry up about it though.

All i know is what the guy in the nokia shop has told me and thats that every network has their own (slightly) modified variant of the firmware and that some take longer releasing their variation then others.

You can try taking it to the o2 shop and see what they say but i seriously doubt they'l be able to help as any o2 shop i've been to only looked at me blankly when i mentioned the word firmware and some staff didnt even seem to believe that a process for updating a phones internal software existed !!!

Feel free to try them out but im just taking the nokia software's word for it at the moment that v3 is the latest o2 can offer. If the "tech" guy has suggested going to the shop maybe he knows something we dont and we'l get to see v5 pretty soon but then again maybe the lass you spoke to was just blagging it and trying to get you off the phone! :mad:

mvvermeulen
31-08-2006, 10:41 AM
Victory is mine! I upgraded my generic N70 from:

V 3.0546.2.3
18-11-05
RM-84

to:

V 5.0616.0.3
24-04-06
RM84

So there IS an upgrade available for generic N70's. The whole thing took forever, since I'm in South Africa and bandwidth over here is not what I'm used to back in Europe...

Except for the OVER ONE HOUR wait to download the actual fw upgrade the whole thing went down quite smoothly. After recovering the backup from the card it even kept my "klondike" (card game) high score. Nice.

I do have trouble syncing my Outlook over bluetooth. Anyone had the same?

Update: Restarting the Nokia Suite has solved these problems, so overall the whole update was quite a no-brainer. So far the only difference I noticed is that the Music player has a different icon. I can imagine most changes have gone into improving the internal processes of the phone. Or so I hope.

Liquid_Li0n
31-08-2006, 06:03 PM
so you backup'ed your phone using the PC Suite and after the FW you placed the backup back on the phone and everything was like before then?
So the data in your contact list etc...

because I really spent a long time making my contact list from my phone. Thumbnail, email addresses, telephone numbers, full names, ...

Drofidnas
31-08-2006, 06:19 PM
so you backup'ed your phone using the PC Suite and after the FW you placed the backup back on the phone and everything was like before then?

Even though I ended up flashing my phone with the same firmware and lost everything, the backup restored the lot. Contacts, thumbnails, voicedials, ringtones, active standby, Snake high score, Calendar entries... the lot.

So no worries - use Backup and restore after flashing. Takes about 5 minutes both ways. You'll be fine! :icon14:

mvvermeulen
31-08-2006, 08:34 PM
I didn't use the PC Suite for the backup, though I have used that in the past. For this backup I just copied the phone's memory to the memory card:

Tool -> Memory (card) -> Options -> Backup phone mem.

And there you go.

And after the update you do the reversed, Restore from card.

slimgrip
09-09-2006, 01:51 PM
Just re-installed TomTom yesterday since i upgraded my FW.

It froze about 4 times in a 23mile journey. Feckin useless now.
Is there any way to put my original FW back on? It was originally V2.0537.1.7 18-09-05 RM-84

Slim

kevs355
09-09-2006, 05:12 PM
Hey guys, recently popped back in here atfer a while away and was astounded to see that we can update over the web... no befroe long to, I for one didn't want to take mine down the carphone warhouse and wait god knows how ong to get it back.

Anyway, just wanted to say that I upgraded my firmware via the nokia site today and... everything is sweeeeeet, I don't know if anyone out there has an exact list of what's included in the update but everything seems faster, especially gallery (which NOW has a rename feature! bout time to!), mp3's (which appear properly named and now have several sub menus like itunes= album, artist etc.), the MP3 ringtone issue (that the nokia patch NEVER cleared up for me first time round :frown: ) is non existant and for those of you who are wondering... TomTom works without a hitch! no drop out AND FULL poi's on!!!

It like a buddy said to me... never buy a new Nokia straight off, they are beset with probs! Well it now looks like Nokia have FINALLY sorted everything out on this lil baby.. in your face Sony! ;)

By the way, undated was quite daunting and scary (maybe it's my dodgy USB cable) as took a while and first time round phone wouldn't boot, also had to attempt 4 times as nokia software wouldn't recognise my phone even needed an update!

Well worth it though! don't delay!

---yours, one very happy bunny---

v 5.06.09.2.0.1
01-03-06
RM-84

nj7
09-09-2006, 07:03 PM
Just re-installed TomTom yesterday since i upgraded my FW.

It froze about 4 times in a 23mile journey. Feckin useless now.
Is there any way to put my original FW back on? It was originally V2.0537.1.7 18-09-05 RM-84

Slim

No! Is not possible do a back process with the firmware. But... with me, all works well. I like the last version. Do an install process again for TT.

kevs355
09-09-2006, 07:16 PM
Beleive the hype... just been out for an hours drive, received 3 calls, 2 texts and each and every single time TomTom resumed as it always should do!!!

Initially, and for a long time I had nightmares with TT mobile 5, no matter what I did... got the latest TT updates, maps and even use an official TT mkII GPS receiver and trust me, it was far from perfect. At one point I was about to give up and opt for the (cheaper than 300series) 'One' unit as when the TT software wants to play nice it is simply a joy to use (have tried route66, no where near as nice). Anyway, it used to consistantly drop and crash all the time, you had to delete and create your bluetooth pairings every five mins and wen you booted up and don't even talk to me about the poi's.

Now... poi's work, the bluetooth hasn't need to be deleted and paired once in 12 times worth of use, calls and text don't crash it... in a nutshell, anyone who had an experience using TomTom with a N70 would know that it was (for want of a better word) a f**king nightmare, now however it's a dream to use and you don't have to lug a TomTom 300 unit around with you like my buddy used to, then didn't and got his car broken into for it! :frown: the best GPS in your phone at last ;)

nj7
09-09-2006, 07:39 PM
Beleive the hype... just been out for an hours drive, received 3 calls, 2 texts and each and every single time TomTom resumed as it always should have done from day one!!!

I had nightmares with TomTom mobile 5, I always got the latest TomTom updates and maps and use an official TomTom mkII GPS receiver and trust me, it was far from perfect and at one point I was about to give up and opt for the (cheaper than 300series) 'One' unit as the software is a joy to use when it works (have tried route66, no where near as nice). Aanyway, it used to drop all the time, you had to delete and create your bluetooth pairings every time you booted up and don't even talk to me about poi's.

Now, poi's work, bluetooth hasn't need to be deleted and paired once in 12 times worth of use, calls or text don't crash it... in a nutshell, anyone who had an experience using TomTom with an N70 know that it was (for want of a better word) a f**king nightmare, now it's a dream and you don't have to lug a TomTom 300 unit around with you like my buddy used to, then didn't and got his car broken into for it! :frown: the best GPS in your phone at last ;)

When I said "all work well" I talk about phone stuff! I donīt know about Tomtom... But if it works like You said, in not a nice thing. When, must of people talk about TT, they said very positive things. I saw once it works, and for me is the best GPS software, if work well or not, not sure.

kevs355
10-09-2006, 02:27 AM
Nokia N70 V 5.06.09.2.0.1 :


New features in MCU SW 5.0609.2.0.1:
Known issues:
- Intermittent ringtone issue
- Bluetooth: A note implemented to the end user when activating Bluetooth
from “Settings” menu, if the Bluetooth profile is set to hidden.
- Music Player Improvements
- Scanning both phone & MMC memory
- Better playlist support
- Active Idle plugin support
- Improve supported media
- Better support for Albums & Artist meta data
- Browser: The X-Oma-Drm-SD header implemented
Changes/improvements made from MCU SW v 3.0546.2.3 to 5.0609.2.0.1:
- User Interface
- Sensitivity of Brightness Modification in Image Editor increased
- Flash lite support in Media Gallery reintroduced
- Speed of Returning from sequence post-capture view with many
images increased
- Active Standby icon for e-mail correctly aligned
- Autolock/Anykey relationship realigned
- Night mode icon modified
- PIN code request sequence set correctly. Sleep mode behavior now
appropriate
- Camera
- Camera StartUp time improved
- Camera behavior in relation to “keypad lock” improved
- Switching to secondary camera in video mode when burst is enabled:
Sequencing improved.
- Sequence capture behavioral improvements when application closes
- Closing Left Navi Key no longer adversely affects saving sequence
images
- Long sequence capture retains images
- Error note handling improved
- Gallery
- Inserting MMC will not close Gallery
- When adding thumbnails from folder - images now shown
- Added Image resolution is correctly aligned
- Slide show with music. Improvements in audio level settings and call
handling behavior
- Image counter updated when memory card is replaced
- Music Player allows battery low warnings to be displayed
- JPEG decoding improved
- Applications
- Notepad now opens large text files
- Creating audio-only clip in high quality mode (MP4) allowed
- MMS postcard name entering improved
- Access point configurator application and database improvements
- Chinese language FM radio: Selecting profile sequence corrected
- DRM
- View certificate details for DRM content displayed correctly
- Opening OMA DRM protected audio/mp3 files in Browser facilitated
- MMC
- Handset stability improved when using SAT menu originated SMS
services
- 'Memory card not available' note disappears when appropriate after
closing embedded app
- Messaging
- When search label is used for selecting the attachment to MMS, correct
sequence takes place
- Wrongly formatted SIP addresses no longer cause handset to freeze.
- Bluetooth
- Reliability of Bluetooth connectivity improved
- Audio quality of voice command with BT headsets improved
- Video Sharing/Streaming
- VS Cancel sequence correctly aligned
- Real player closing sequence after ISHO realigned
- “Video Sharing" prompts now appear when appropriate
- Call Processing
- Correct response to MO when MT ignores an invite in place.
- Emergency number update according to regulations
- Alternative “Ringtone” issue resolved
- Simultaneous Video call and SMS receipt prompts correct ring tones.
- Cellular Signaling
- Video telephony Inter Operability optimized
- RSSI measurements in 2G re-evaluated
- Radio
- Performance has been maximized by improving the 2G > 3G
reselection algorithm

sandrof
11-09-2006, 08:55 PM
Im dying to update mine from v3.0546.2.3 to the latest v5xxx but I still cant connect my N70 with USB using the latest drivers and PC Suite from the Nokia website.

sandrof
12-09-2006, 06:18 AM
OK!! At last My N70 is connected with USB after changing the USB port in my pc. ALL my other 8 devices worked with this port but the N70 didnt like it!

But now the Nokia software updater v1.0.88.EN is telling me "cannot find phone"

Whats this all about now ? Im tired of this Nokia stuff!

kevs355
13-09-2006, 12:47 AM
Sandrof... Nokia are historically AWFUL at providing PC-PHONE connectivity and it's very VERY annoying!!! If your quite loyal (like me, and a bit daft for that very reason!) to one particular phone brand it's a HUGE incentive to f**k them off and just move to whos increasingly looking like the glowing stars in moby phones... SONY/ERICSSON, Nokia, if you're listening, get your act together, in this day and age and simple USB connection should proove NO PROBLEM! :frown:

Sandrof, be persistant and keep trying, god knows I did, it's worth it, they updates is amazing! if TomTom was available on a SONY i'd be there like a shot though! :mad:

mvvermeulen
13-09-2006, 09:40 AM
Yeah, same here. The USB cable with the N70 is as bad as I remember from my 6210. Very annoying, I constantly get "Device not recognised", "Device not working properly" etc...

Seems like something that may be fixed with a firmware update. If you can get your usb connection to work.

rhwan
14-09-2006, 11:07 AM
does anyone know why my n70 restarts?? thanks a lot!!

Liquid_Li0n
21-09-2006, 11:55 AM
If I read all those threads about the firmware update, I'm still not sure that it good to do, I really want to have version 5 but when I read the issues with the battery problems.

kevs355
22-09-2006, 10:57 AM
Good to do?!?! it's essential!!! battery probs my ass, just have it plugged into your charger and have if fully charged when you perform the update if you're concerned.

mvvermeulen
22-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Don't worry about the battery problems too much, I reported it a couple of weeks ago, but have flashed it again with a full battery and it's back to normal now. Unplugged it from the charger yesterday morning and missing two bars now, which I reckon is acceptable.

BTW, I'm looking for navigation software for South Africa, have the bluetooth GPS receiver. Which offering is the best? Or comes with SA maps to begin with?

-Liam-
23-09-2006, 08:40 AM
Does anyone know why O2 branded phones are still stuck on v3.0546.2.3?

I'm feeling a bit left out here..:frown:

Looking at the list of improvements you get with v5.xxxxxx I can't imagine why o2 would not sanction it...

MBTI-ISTJ
26-09-2006, 08:56 PM
Hi, I have tried a couple of times to upgrade, but I recieve an error message stating that minimum memory requirement is 256MB. Am I really going to have to buy a new laptop just to upgrade? Thanks

sawma
27-09-2006, 06:14 AM
Hey guys i av N70 FW v5.0609.201
need to upgrade my FW coz my org FW is a Chinese version n me needs
an english version asap..:redface:
i av d/l d ltst pc suite n d updating software frm official Nokia sites
installed d above softwares w/o a glich
now comes d problem:
wen i run d update software,d prog stalls at splash screen
sayin STARTING APPLICATION...
n d funniest thing is dat d task manager doesnt show it as not responding
tried unistallin n reinstallin both apps (suite/update)
but still same problem persists...:mad:
any suggestions r welcome...
:icon14: THanks In advance!!! :)

Liquid_Li0n
01-10-2006, 01:27 PM
What would happen if you receive a text or call during the upgrade?
Is it better to take out the MMC for the upgrade?

UPDATE

I did the update, without the MMC inserted, it went smoothly like I'm used from Nokia.
The only strange thing is that I have Mobistar (Belgian provider) as operator but my phone shows me settings, messages, themes from Proximus (Biggest Belgian Operator)

UPDATE II

I got the backup from my PC to put it back on the phone but it froze every time at 65%, a luck that I also made a backup on the MMC card because with that one it went great. Just like before the upgrade. I don't know what went or is wrong with the PC backup?

UPDATE III

I really notice that the N70 is faster, the pictures appear faster in the gallery, the camera opens & closes faster (you have the photofinder faster on screen). I really fell great that I updated my firmware.

For those who are still thinking about doing it, I really recommend to do it ASAP. But make sure you back up your phone on the MMC aswell!

ratza
20-12-2006, 08:11 AM
I'm kind of tired of the slow speed of this 2.0536.0.2 firmware and I wanted to update the firmware over NSU. Guess what: no updates available! How the hell is this possible? This is the oldest firmware...:mad: Did anybody managed to update from v2 to v5?

ratza
29-12-2006, 07:36 PM
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Yeeehaaaa!!! The proxy used for internet was the problem. I finally did my upgrade to v5, not without some chills on my back. The NSU gave me a lost connection warning message at about 80% progress which froze the shit inside me. I hitted the "Next" button for five times without success. Anyway, after removing the battery and powering on the phone again, the update finished successfully. Liquid, thanks alot for the details. I owe you a beer mate!

garycat
29-12-2006, 09:27 PM
I upgraded my Orange branded N70 from 2.0537.1.7 to 3.0546.2.3. There was no option to go to version 5.

Any idea on how I can override this and force it to V5?

Quik
29-12-2006, 09:35 PM
U have to de-brand ur fone.

kazram
30-12-2006, 01:42 AM
hey when i try to update my n70 i have it connected and all, and the pc suite recognizes it fine, but when i start the updater, it says n70 disconected, but it really is connected, and then the updater just doesnt find my phone. Does anyone know how to solve this. my n70 is unbranded and isnt locked to a service provider. Thanks in advance

nj7
30-12-2006, 11:00 AM
Is like that. When the update begins, the phone is unlock from PCSuite and in a mean while, it is recognized by NSU. You wait that time?

kazram
30-12-2006, 06:52 PM
yea ive waited for like 15 minutes and tried to hav NSU recognize the phone but it still wont

mark4130
31-12-2006, 09:36 AM
U have to de-brand ur fone.

You will also need to change the product code of your phone. I had debranded my Orange N70 but when I put it through NSU it updated it to the latest Orange software.
I then changed my product code to the one given in a post a few days ago (using the NSS software - there is a link to it in the E61 forum about exactly the same subject), ran it through NSU and now I have a TOTALLY debranded generic N70 with no Orange stuff on there and the latest Nokia firmware - and it is 10 times better as a phone!

nj7
31-12-2006, 10:06 AM
yea ive waited for like 15 minutes and tried to hav NSU recognize the phone but it still wont
Should not occur! Is not that long...

kazram
31-12-2006, 07:08 PM
ok, ill try it again, but is there anything i have to do after i start the updater, it just says, cannot find phone, and i keep tryin, so is there anything i should do?

nytrydr
01-01-2007, 11:04 AM
does n70 FW update updates the n70 music edition FW - thnx

nj7
01-01-2007, 11:48 AM
ok, ill try it again, but is there anything i have to do after i start the updater, it just says, cannot find phone, and i keep tryin, so is there anything i should do?
Not find phone! The hardware is on good condition? The phone and the cable are Ok? If yes, uninstall PCSuite and NSU. Do a registry cleaning process, of all entries related. Reboot PC and install again. First PCSuite, and assure it connects the phone.

nj7
01-01-2007, 11:50 AM
does n70 FW update updates the n70 music edition FW - thnx
Seems possible. Do a search because is a "manual" how to do that on the forum.

ratza
02-01-2007, 07:59 AM
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Yo guys, I've just found out why the batterry lasts shorter on v5 firmware. The camera starts faster because only the viewfinder is stopped. The camera runs on background and the process can be killed. The name of the process is Camera. The camera will start a little bit slower after that. Note that you need to kill the process after each camera use.

kazram
06-01-2007, 07:47 PM
Not find phone! The hardware is on good condition? The phone and the cable are Ok? If yes, uninstall PCSuite and NSU. Do a registry cleaning process, of all entries related. Reboot PC and install again. First PCSuite, and assure it connects the phone.
I uninstalled them both and reinstalled them in that order, and i made sure the n70 connected succesfully with PCsuite before installing NSU, and after starting NSU, i tried to do the update but it just keeps telling me that it cannot find my phone
any ideas?

nj7
07-01-2007, 01:08 PM
Format the phone, without firmware upgrade. Do the backup first, because the lost of personal stuff is total:icon4: Then, format the phone. After that, try the NSU.

kazram
07-01-2007, 09:40 PM
i tried, but still, it doesnt detect my phone. PCsuite works fine, but NSU just doesnt detect it

aliihsanozek
08-01-2007, 10:48 AM
i have the same problem with kazram i think.

i just formatted my PC at work, and installed the latest pc suite. it connects to my N70 fine, but NSU cannot detect my phone. when i uninstall pc suite, NSU can easily detect my phone.

NSU and Nokia Pc Suite cannot work together.

Anybody has a solution?

ratza
10-01-2007, 09:21 AM
Uninstall both of them, including the driver for the phone, reboot and install only the NSU. The update will work then. It seems like PC Suite and NSU cannot work together.

kazram
12-01-2007, 09:54 PM
its still not working even after i reinstall NSU

nj7
13-01-2007, 08:00 AM
Try that: http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=pcsuite&message.id=11434

Post the result!

KenBruce
14-01-2007, 06:11 PM
Re install Nokia Cable Connectivity Driver which comes with one of the two progs, I can't remember which.

kazram
21-01-2007, 10:19 PM
nope, still not finding my phone.

ratza
22-01-2007, 09:46 AM
Have you tried on another PC or USB port? Maybe that's the source of your problem.

Loma
14-02-2007, 12:10 PM
Have you tried on another PC or USB port? Maybe that's the source of your problem.

salut ratza,
s-a gasit vreo solutie pentru decodarea tel N70?
Am unul de la O2 din UK si se pare ca nimeni nu stie cum sa-l decodeze pentru a-l folosi cu alt sim card...

ratza
14-02-2007, 12:57 PM
Check your private messages ;)