Following on from the N91 question thread I'll do my best to answer any questions about the N93 here. We'll have a review in due course which will give a general opinion, but if there's something specific...

Read the initial teaser info in the news article (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/4100_Nokia_N93_teaser.php).

Questions:

1 - It has vibracall?

2 - Video quality - replace a dedicated video camera? Like a mid range Sony or Cannon? It´s subjective, I know, but is the main propose of a device like that.

3 - In real work, what about battery life?

Thanks.

nj7

1. Yes the N93 includes a vibrate function.

2. Thats very difficult to say as I don't own such a camera. However this is eminently watchable on the TV, so I would say yes at least for the low end.

3. Bit early to say but it does have a reasonably big battery so we'll see.

Perhaps this is more of a Symbian question than a N93 question, but I'll ask anyway: I have a Wifi network at home, and when I'm not at home, I'll use 3G/GPRS. Is it tedious switching between the two?

I'm currently using a PDA (a Sony Clie PalmOS UX-50), and it has Wifi and bluetooth. I use bluetooth to connect it to my phone, so that the PDA can access the internet. But on this PDA, you have to launch the preferences app, switch to the Network tab, and then switch between Wifi and bluetooth. Very tedious in the long run. Is this simpler on the N93?

When my PDA needs to connect, it asks "Connect now?" and I can choose between "Yes" and "No". It would be better if I instead could choose "Yes, with Wifi", "Yes, with bluethooth" or "No". Does it work something like that on the N93?

Whoa. That's a really long-winded way of asking a simple question. I'll shut up now.

Yes that is a general S60 3rd Edition question. The answer in the case of Nseries devices is that it is fairly simple. In each application that uses an internet connection (Access Point) you can set the access point to be used in Settings. You can either set this to a specific access point or you can set it always ask. In the case of always ask when the application needs a connection it will pop up a dialog asking which connection to use. You can choose from your GPRS Access Points, Your predefined WLAN Access Points (basically known WiFi points you commonly use and can set up in the Settings program) and EasyWLAN which allows you to scan for WiFi networks and sign on to one (useful when using one in the airport for example).

This access point setting is set on an application by application basis. Personally I have some set to my gprs access point (e.g. ones I never use at home or which use very little data), some set to WiFi only (e.g. Real Player streaming), and most (mail, Web) set to Always Ask.

N93 Full review.......how soon til it appears on the smartphone show?

Cant wait to get this phone........it's so cooooool!:)

What is the text input method of the device, obviously it doesn't have a dedicated keyboard for text input.

Cheers,
dovale

I was wondering what the connector type is for the TV out... Not the pop-port connector (I assume thats where the phone outputs signal), but the connector that goes into the TV. Is it some strange alien type that no one will have, or is it something like s-video, or RCA? Because its Nokia, I worry a little :)

Composite RCA connectors (3 pieces), perfectly standard :)

Text input is via the numeric keypad/predictive text or Bluetooth keyboard - as usual 8-)

My (black) N93 will be in Smartphones Show 13 (http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/sshow/index.html), being filmed in about a week's time. The E70 review's coming up on Monday, the N93 one (hopefully) on Friday. You'll have to be patient, there's so much that's new on the N93 that it'll take us that long to find out its quirks!!

Steve Litchfield

My (black) N93 will be in Smartphones Show 13, being filmed in about a week's time. The E70 review's coming up on Monday, the N93 one (hopefully) on Friday. You'll have to be patient, there's so much that's new on the N93 that it'll take us that long to find out its quirks!!

That's great Steve.......looking forward to seing it :)

Is the N93 capable of playing back videos in slow motion?

I practice fencing. It would be very useful to be able to film practice matches and then review them immediately afterwards, discussing with other fencers what you did right and what you did wrong. But it would be difficult to see what actually happens unless you can play the video back in slow motion, especially on the small screen.

dovale - text input is via numeric keypad either via multitap or via T9, and yes the TV cables are standard connectors.

Enfors - you can't play the video back in slow motion in Real Player (as on other S60 phones). You can pause the video repeatedly (on/off/on/off) which does allow you to 'watch' the frames more slowly or study a particular one.

Well, I am sorry, but I am not very impressed with the video - given the hype about the phone we have heard.

The dynamic range does not look to be great, but then it is a very difficult motive you have chosen, a very dark dog, front in the shadow, and the background in bright sunlight. I am probably spoiled with a 3CCD Sony VX2000 Camcorder and a Canon EOS 20D DSLR though.

Also I felt that the grass and especially plants in the far left of the picture as the dog runs away looks washed out with little details. There is also visible blocks around the dog as it moves. Hardly suprising. Perhaps Nokia has chosen to compress to much to save memory space at the expense of quality

It is clearly close to or equal to my wifes cheap Sharp Digicam, so it can replace that type of device, but not a high end system. Problem is, once you use such a system it is very hard to go back.

For most of the people who watch what I record, I doubt they will find the same issues.

Still, I might get one of those, finances permitting, when you look at the TV output capability and everything else, it is an impressive package

Regards
Michael

I am probably spoiled with a 3CCD Sony VX2000 Camcorder and a Canon EOS 20D DSLR though.

I think you are spoiled a bit :), however for most punters who want a half decent camera/camcorder, the N93 with it's 3.2 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, 3x optical zoom, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, video(VGA 30 fps) has a great deal to offer as an all in one low cost multi-media device. :icon14:

Yes it's really a bit early to judge the video from my perspective. I didn't have a great deal of choice and you're right to say that a black dog on a sunnay day is a rather nasty combination. We'll make sure there some more generic video examples for the review. To be honest until you use it yourself these things are very hard to judge. However it is the best video I've personally captured from a smartphone, but then I've seen excellent results that others have taken with the N90 / N70 etc. Its important to realise the operator is an important component!

I think with these types of converged device its not necessairly aimed at those who buy mid to high range camera / video recorders, but rather people who might liek tto have the function or who have a low quality one. The always with you element is not to be under estimated either.

Well, I am sorry, but I am not very impressed with the video - given the hype about the phone we have heard.

The dynamic range does not look to be great, but then it is a very difficult motive you have chosen, a very dark dog, front in the shadow, and the background in bright sunlight. I am probably spoiled with a 3CCD Sony VX2000 Camcorder and a Canon EOS 20D DSLR though.

Also I felt that the grass and especially plants in the far left of the picture as the dog runs away looks washed out with little details. There is also visible blocks around the dog as it moves. Hardly suprising. Perhaps Nokia has chosen to compress to much to save memory space at the expense of quality

It is clearly close to or equal to my wifes cheap Sharp Digicam, so it can replace that type of device, but not a high end system. Problem is, once you use such a system it is very hard to go backI have looked at Rafe's video and I was impressed when comparing to the Videos I can take with my digital camera (a Panasonic Lumix LZ2) (well maybe my digital camera is not so good at taking videos ;) ... any other comparisons with other digital cameras ? )

Thanks Rafe for the recent infomation, which has been eagly awaited.

I've a few questions which i hope you could help me with :-


1 - i believe the phone is the first to incorporate a 3d graphics accellerator - do we have a list of launch games that will be either included or purchasable once the phone is released ?

2 - I appreceiate you've only had your 93 a few days, any indication on battery life ? - there have been far too many complaints around Nokia's inability to produce decent "long life" battery's. (The N80 is a fine example)

3 - What network's are you testing the unit on ?

4 - Release date - Given you've posted information on here and the support info is available on Nokia's website, would indicate, the phone is "shortly" due for release. I work in the City of London, near a large Carphonewarehouse, who have indicated the unit was due to be delivered on Tuesday 25th. Another member now says it's been pushed back to Aug and another to September. Do you have any reliable release dates ? and, any reason why they are kept in a cloud of secrecy ?

Finally can you post a couple of screen shots of System Rush Evolution shown on a Tv screen ?

Thanks, and regards,

Mark

--1 - i believe the phone is the first to incorporate a 3d graphics accellerator - do we have a list of launch games that will be either included or purchasable once the phone is released ?--

At E3 2006 Nokia and many of their partners said the games service wouldn't launch until the beginning of 2007. The E3 Nokia N-Gage site includes a video of the N93 running "One: Who's Next", the sequel to the N-Gage game One:

http://pandora.luxus.fi/e3blog/e3_06/video/ca8f384610fe4875b70266c2120b9e49.swf.aspx

They'd made a special section of the One game so it could run on the N93 in landscape mode (and presumably future landscape-capable phones).

You can also find details of other next gen first party Nokia games on the site:

http://www.n-gage.com/e3/


--2 - I appreceiate you've only had your 93 a few days, any indication on battery life ? - there have been far too many complaints around Nokia's inability to produce decent "long life" battery's. (The N80 is a fine example)--

This is a general problem with smartphones, it's not just Nokia, they drain power faster than normal phones because they're having to run a powerful computer as well as doing all their phone duties. Some smartphones do have a good battery life but they usually either have a huge battery (e.g. the E61) or they have less impressive features.


--Given you've posted information on here and the support info is available on Nokia's website, would indicate, the phone is "shortly" due for release. I work in the City of London, near a large Carphonewarehouse, who have indicated the unit was due to be delivered on Tuesday 25th. Another member now says it's been pushed back to Aug and another to September. Do you have any reliable release dates ?--

You'll probably be able to get it sim-free most quickly, because that just involves Nokia shipping it from factories to retailers, there's no operator to deal with. Retail chains like Carphone Warehouse tend to sell more network-based phones than sim-free ones, so if it does get pushed back there it might be because the phone networks offering it need time to process it.


--and, any reason why they are kept in a cloud of secrecy ?--

As far as I know release dates in the electronics industry in general are normally kept secret because they tend to move about a lot. They obviously have a date in mind all along, but if they announce it straight away there's a good chance they'll have to issue a correction a short while later, and then another, and then another. It's best to only say a launch date when you're pretty sure about it, it avoids disappointment and confusion, so if they're keeping a date secret it implies they're still not sure themselves when it'll launch.

Just as an example, one spectacular error recently was Sony who unveiled a huge banner in 2005 saying that the PlayStation 3 would launch in Spring 2006. Of course spring has come and gone, and still no PS3, because the new launch date is November 2006. I think I prefer the "keep it secret until we're sure" approach.


--Finally can you post a couple of screen shots of System Rush Evolution shown on a Tv screen ?--

Yes, I'd love to see that too! :-)

so tired of hearing when the n93 is coming out.do you have any positive answer ?????:con?

will the tv out cable provided work with other phones? if yes then which ones.

Hmmm, that video footage looks HORRIBLY compressed. The image itself looks fine to me but if that is the only compression setting available then I think it is going to ruin the device for me. I appreciate it isn't meant to be a video camera but if it can't achieve even a semblance of respectability then you are just left with a large phone which is large for a function you never use.

Hopefully it can be improved after you have played with it. BTW, why 30 fps, surely 25 fps would make your life easier if you ever wanted to convert it to MPEG2 for DVD use. Lowering the fps might improve the compression?

EDIT - watching again the compression is only really obviously in the very bright areas of the image, I wonder why?

Rafe, were you capturing with image stabilisation turned on or off?

Steve

Well the Firmwareissues are also not nice there are quit many also on Older Phones so you can run many Times to NSC to Update the Phone.
Code:
http://hunajatehdas.net/nokia/firmware/index_en.php?model=
FOTA is currently not available only on Future SymbianOS 9.2 9.3 Phones
i guess. So Sony USB Firmware Updates are quit more Userfriendly as the Current Nokia Phones for Updateing.

So i wish to have a detailed Review about the Batterylifetime of this Phone before i buy under extensive Using Conditions.
1100mAh are many but for what in can use a quiet interessing Overfeatured Phone when the Batterylifetime isnt High enough to Use
the Video and Photofeature especially long.

And you cant turn the WLAN Subsystem fully off only non WLAN Seeking
so this WLAN Chip also consumes Power when it isnt in Use .

So the Review should the Batterylifetimes very detailed that would be nice to have to make a buying Decision.

The quality of that photo is very nice but you seem to get a noticable amount of radial blur around the corners and far edges which is a bit of a pain...

1 - i believe the phone is the first to incorporate a 3d graphics accellerator - do we have a list of launch games that will be either included or purchasable once the phone is released ?
So far only System Rush Evolution (ships with the device). I'm sure more will be announed in due course.

2 - I appreceiate you've only had your 93 a few days, any indication on battery life ? - there have been far too many complaints around Nokia's inability to produce decent "long life" battery's. (The N80 is a fine example)

Difficult to say. It really depends what you do with it. My intial impression is quite good. But I'll try and be more specific later on.
3 - What network's are you testing the unit on ?

I'm / will be testing it on O2 and Orange.

4 - Release date - Given you've posted information on here and the support info is available on Nokia's website, would indicate, the phone is "shortly" due for release. I work in the City of London, near a large Carphonewarehouse, who have indicated the unit was due to be delivered on Tuesday 25th. Another member now says it's been pushed back to Aug and another to September. Do you have any reliable release dates ? and, any reason why they are kept in a cloud of secrecy ?

The device is likely to be available in mid August. However it varies a great deal from market to market and there's no rule as to where it comes out first. A lot of this is dependent on which networks choose a handset and how long it takes to get through the QA process. Even for SIM free handsets there's no way to besure where it will be available first

Finally can you post a couple of screen shots of System Rush Evolution shown on a Tv screen ?


I'll make some of these and post it in due course.

will the tv out cable provided work with other phones? if yes then which ones.

The TV cable only works with the Nokia N93.

Hmmm, that video footage looks HORRIBLY compressed. The image itself looks fine to me but if that is the only compression setting available then I think it is going to ruin the device for me. I appreciate it isn't meant to be a video camera but if it can't achieve even a semblance of respectability then you are just left with a large phone which is large for a function you never use.

Hopefully it can be improved after you have played with it. BTW, why 30 fps, surely 25 fps would make your life easier if you ever wanted to convert it to MPEG2 for DVD use. Lowering the fps might improve the compression?

EDIT - watching again the compression is only really obviously in the very bright areas of the image, I wonder why?


You can change the frame rate and quality settings although these aren't that flexible. I'll take some more videos when I have something interesting to video. The one posted was taken on a very sunny day with the default settings. Video stabalisation was turned off.

No idea why 30 fps was chosen!

So the Review should the Batterylifetimes very detailed that would be nice to have to make a buying Decision.

Will do our best. However everyone will have a different experience dependent on their usage conditions / location etc.

The quality of that photo is very nice but you seem to get a noticable amount of radial blur around the corners and far edges which is a bit of a pain...

Yes I noticed that. I'll upload some more pictures later. I think it may be more obvious in that picture because of the lighting conditions. I've been taking some close ups and been quite impressed. For those with a N90 you'll find the N93 better, but there's not a lot in it image wise. However the extra pixel count does mean resampled pictures may look a bit better. The optical zoom means it is easier to capture the picture you want too.

640x480 at 30 fps sounds like something aimed at the US Television market, perhaps the chips doing the compression was cheaper for that standard ?

Indeed, 720x576 at 25fps would be ideal for true DVD - and the resulting bitrate would be somewhat lower at that setting..

Then, I suspect most video would be watched on a PC where the actual format is less important, as long as the Mpeg4 standard is used.

Regards
Michael

By the way, Nokias Russian website lists the N93, N73 and N72 as well as the 5500 as already available. The 5500 is available in Denmark too. No luck in any other european country...

Well, I am sorry, but I am not very impressed with the video - given the hype about the phone we have heard.

The dynamic range does not look to be great, but then it is a very difficult motive you have chosen, a very dark dog, front in the shadow, and the background in bright sunlight. I am probably spoiled with a 3CCD Sony VX2000 Camcorder and a Canon EOS 20D DSLR though.

Also I felt that the grass and especially plants in the far left of the picture as the dog runs away looks washed out with little details. There is also visible blocks around the dog as it moves. Hardly suprising. Perhaps Nokia has chosen to compress to much to save memory space at the expense of quality

It is clearly close to or equal to my wifes cheap Sharp Digicam, so it can replace that type of device, but not a high end system. Problem is, once you use such a system it is very hard to go back.

For most of the people who watch what I record, I doubt they will find the same issues.

Still, I might get one of those, finances permitting, when you look at the TV output capability and everything else, it is an impressive package

Regards
Michael

This video, didn´t impress me much, also. And I´m only interessed in N93, if it can replace my DSC and Camcorder. If not, my choice gonna be N73. So, once again, the video quality is mandatory for me!

*STOP PRESS* After 24 hours intensive useage, I can report that the N93's firmware (10.0.017, 29-6-06) isn't ready for the prime time - loads of crashes and bugs. I cannot believe that what we have is a production model - here's hoping it was late beta firmware.

More as I find out about this tomorrow and Tuesday.

Steve Litchfield

*STOP PRESS* After 24 hours intensive useage, I can report that the N93's firmware (10.0.017, 29-6-06) isn't ready for the prime time - loads of crashes and bugs. I cannot believe that what we have is a production model - here's hoping it was late beta firmware.

More as I find out about this tomorrow and Tuesday.

Steve Litchfield

Thats probably why Carphonewarehouse have taken it off in their latest catalogue - they said to me it will be released in September!!! :icon13:

This does not sound good. Does it come with the new version of Symbian that supports over-the-air upgrade of the firmware? It would be comforting to know, that even if it is buggy when we get it, it can easily be upgraded once a new version of the firmware is available.

Oh, and another thing. I suppose the N93 looses a good chunk of memory when switching to landscape, just like the E71?

Oh, and another thing. I suppose the N93 looses a good chunk of memory when switching to landscape, just like the E71?

Actually, no, that's one of the bits that works. Along with the torch. 8-)

The landscape thing is an E70-specific firmware bug.

Steve

Ok. Could you tell us (briefly - I realise all info will be available in the review) what's wrong with the firmware?

I've (so far) only seen one or two problems (e.g. an out of memory when zooming into an image), but Steve has been using it more intensively than I have.

I'm going to give it an intensive slog today.

I think the key issue may be the lack of available RAM (i.e. a bit like the 6680). This has an impact on multi tasking. Thus how much you will affected depends on how you use your phone. If you leave application open (as is best for multi tasking) then you may find they are closed in the backgroun for example.

I'm not sure that it isn't ready for release, rather people may want to be aware that it may not have enough RAM, (e.g. I had my contacts + Gallery + Java app open + Web, then took a picture after which only the camera app was still open).

I see. How much RAM does it have available with no applications running?

After boot, it's just under 20MB, which sounds large enough. But 3rd Edition uses more RAM for most tasks than previous versions, Web uses more, the camera uses a lot more, Gallery uses more, etc.

For a working smartphone, it has to be able to keep basic PIM apps in memory while using at least 2 other major apps (e.g. video camera and Web) - the N93 runs this close to the limit.

HOWEVER - I don't believe the problem is RAM here - I think it's buggy firmware. 90% of the issues I found were bugs, pure and simple, as evidenced by 'KERN EXEC' errors, spontaneous resets, out of memory errors (when there was plenty), and so on.

All fixable in firmware, of course, which is why I'm hoping that our review units *weren't* production/retail ones.

Steve

Not knowing anything about Symbian (I'm a PalmOS user until I get my N93), I wonder what it does with the remaining 30 MB RAM that are not available after boot?

HOWEVER - I don't believe the problem is RAM here - I think it's buggy firmware. 90% of the issues I found were bugs, pure and simple, as evidenced by 'KERN EXEC' errors, spontaneous resets, out of memory errors (when there was plenty), and so on.

All fixable in firmware, of course, which is why I'm hoping that our review units *weren't* production/retail ones.

Steve

So pleased you chaps are available to beta test all the latest devices for us, saves me buying it and having to do it!!!

Hmmmm, the last few N series devices do seem to be being released with some fairly OBVIOUS bugs in the OS. One would think these would be spotted by the beta testers, like the picture zooming out of memory error on the N80. At least Nokia seem pretty good about issuing firmware upgrades, IF you know that this might be necessary.

Can't wait for the full review on this one, still interested due to the potential as a DV-Cam.

It transpires, after much digging, that the N93s we were sent don't have the most recent firmware on, after all 8-(

For the record, the latest appears to be v10.0.025. I'm looking to get my unit re-flashed before writing the review.

Steve

Some nokia camera phones (my N90 comes to mind) often tint skin tones, making them too yellow / orange even in decent lighting. This is my fear with the N93. Could you post a pic and small clip of someone indoors? It's amazing how many test pics I see from devices that don't ever include people. This ruined the N90 for me.

It transpires, after much digging, that the N93s we were sent don't have the most recent firmware on, after all 8-(

For the record, the latest appears to be v10.0.025. I'm looking to get my unit re-flashed before writing the review.

Steve

As salles already had started, which will be the version of these phones? This 10.0.025 or a still previous one?

Question: In the E61 review, it was stated that there is no way to immediately "page up" or "page down" in the web browser. Instead, you have to move the pointer to the edge of the screen to scroll. Is this also true for the N93?

You'd think that they'd implement this using the numeric keypad:

8 = page up
4 = page left, 6 = page right
2 = page down.

But I take it they didn't?

Enfors - no changes in that department I'm afraid. However it may just be me but scrolling seems a bit quicker.

andrewsmcd - I'll make sure some of those photos get included in the (p)review

heard the n93 will be avalable in next 5 days, the pictures here were of the silver model, do u know if this will be the case when on general sale straight away or will we have to wait a bit longer for the silver one?

Hello everyone. I found this topic by accident and I am pleased to find constructive stuff and vital information about the N93, my next phone. Thumbs up everyone. Regarding the N93 i think NOKIA should not have released it yet, eventhough i do not know if i can wait longer for my provider to get the shipment.
The news you testers have posted are not encouraging. I mean if I am going to pay 650-700 euros for this phone, I do not want it to crash. For this price i expect quality and not bugged firmwares :(.

rafe,
would you rather have n91 or n93? because i currently have n91 but i am allowed an upgrade tomorrow so i might sell n91 for n93, but n73 i also here :)

I've just ordered my N93, and I have a question -

The phone has Wifi built in, right? That being the case, using a Wifi access point, is it possible to use the phone with the VOIP protocol?

It'd be great to be able to use VOIP when I was at home, and my mobile tarrif when I'm away from home! :)

I've just ordered my N93, and I have a question -

The phone has Wifi built in, right? That being the case, using a Wifi access point, is it possible to use the phone with the VOIP protocol?

It'd be great to be able to use VOIP when I was at home, and my mobile tarrif when I'm away from home! :)

Yes! See this: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48811

Does the TV out RCA connections include audio (left&right)?

Does the TV out RCA connections include audio (left&right)?

Yes! See the cable in N93 box here: http://www.planete-nokia.com/phpBB2/index.php?showtopic=26353&st=630

Audio: Left / Right and Video.

Everyone keeps saying it'll be out July, which is unlikely considering it's now August and it has still to be seen. I'm almost at the end of my O2 online contract and want this phone real bad!! However, I don't want to wait months longer for it. Any idea of full network support for this phone?

Everyone keeps saying it'll be out July, which is unlikely considering it's now August and it has still to be seen. I'm almost at the end of my O2 online contract and want this phone real bad!! However, I don't want to wait months longer for it. Any idea of full network support for this phone?

The phone is "out" and has been for a week, just not in the UK. Expansys will have stock in Monday 31st, so you can still get it for July :)...

Hearing atm only voda and o2 but other will follow once high street reatailers see how popular it is..

A lot of online retailers will have the phone in stock on Wednesday 2nd August!!

Check here for price plan comparrisons:

http://www.fluidmobile.co.uk/display.asp?hs=n93&network=&tariff=&gift=

Is out, in Germany!

N93 Preview - GSMArena - http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n93_photo-review-100.php.
Not very positive the camera analysis!

hi

can any one tell me if there is any voip software for the n93?


thanks

hi

can any one tell me if there is any voip software for the n93?


thanks

Yes. See here: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48811

:con? Regarding the GSM Arena pictures:

If you sit back a bit, the video is not bad, but when watched closely on my PC screen, it looks a bit 'jumpy'. The file does indeed say 29.xx fps, but is the video really captured in 30 fps - or is there some interpolation involved.

When the cars pass by, it is not very smooth. I know that they pass rapidly and I might be fooled by the rapid updates on my PC LCD compared to the more smooth impression from a TV screen.

The noise in the pictures is horrible, reminds me of the first consumer 8 MP camera, the Sony F818 in high ISO mode. Perhaps there is some malfunction in the review phone - or an unfortunate setting. Can you select e.g. a 'Sports' mode that gives you a fast shutter speed (at the cost of more signal amplificaiton) ?

Regards,
Michael

The videos produced by a camera, whatever is that camera, should be seen in TV. The PC´s have too much pixels, and all images seems poor! But that ones, I already saw in Tv, and are not great, either.

I heard that the N93 only supports EDGE and so it should work with Cingular. Anyone have experience using the N93 in the US on Cingular or T-Mobile? How fast is the web experience (not on WiFi)?

TIA

Any idea how much it costs in US??..
And.. Will there be any US provider (T-Mob/Cinglr/???) giving nice contract???
:con?

No VoIP client on the N93, although it does support SIP.
N93 does support EDGE, EDGE is a lot better than standard GPRS but can't compare to 3G at its best.
There are no official plans for a US launch. I imagine it would cost $800 or so.
Camera quality - believe me the operator has a lot to do with how good the pictures look. It is ot as good as a mid range digital camera, but for most purposes (e.g. printing out pictures) it is very good.

i have just bought a nokia n93 sim free, it`s from germany but i would like the uk vodafone web/wap settings so i can view vodafone live, can anyone help?
cheers!

i have just bought a nokia n93 sim free, it`s from germany but i would like the uk vodafone web/wap settings so i can view vodafone live, can anyone help?
cheers!

Could You, please, tell me wich languages are in the OS of that N93, bought in Germany? Many thanks.:icon14:

Just go to the Nokia Support site and enter your phone no. etc. - settings get delivered as an auto-setup SMS.

Steve

Since using my phone there have been a couple of times where the phone has suddenly automatically restarted itself. Has anyone else seen these issues?

Have you checked you are running the latest firmware ?

Did hear a few batches were recalled...

Since using my phone there have been a couple of times where the phone has suddenly automatically restarted itself. Has anyone else seen these issues?
My N93 has restarted by itself a couple of times - very random....

Also, when ive played around with all the apps it wont load up any other apps untill i switch off the phone and turn it on again!!!

How do i find out what my firmware is???? Havent got a clue how to find out!!

pauluspinkydude
Type *#0000# on your Screen latest is .25 firmware !

Rafe,

Any ideas when you'll get a chance to add the 2nd part of the N93 Review? Very interested to hear your final conclusion about this phone...

Hi, I have no problem with the n93 using wifi, to connect to my home network, & surf web etc. However the home media centre simply will not recognise the n93. I have allowed the software access on all ports in the speedtouch adsl2+ router. Can someone please help, as this is driving me insane. Thanks in advance

just a thought, why didn't they implement UMA on this phone or am I missing something??

Wirelessly posted (Nokia6680/1.0 (3.04.11) SymbianOS/8.0 Series60/2.6 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

Steve, does your think outside keyboard work with the nokia 3rd edition phones such as the N93? Cheers!

Following on from the N91 question thread I'll do my best to answer any questions about the N93 here. We'll have a review in due course which will give a general opinion, but if there's something specific...

Read the initial teaser info in the news article (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/4100_Nokia_N93_teaser.php).

Rafe,

I notice Nokia have withdrawn the N93 golf edition from their webiste, surrounding fears they may not release it in the UK.. There's speculation that carphonewarehouse is now also not supporting the N93...

Do you have any firm knowledge around the N93 public release ? Seem strange its being release in Europe but delayed in the UK....

Wirelessly posted (Nokia 6680: Nokia6680/1.0 (3.04.11) SymbianOS/8.0 Series60/2.6 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)


Rafe,

I notice Nokia have withdrawn the N93 golf edition from their webiste, surrounding fears they may not release it in the UK.. There's speculation that carphonewarehouse is now also not supporting the N93...


Oh kack! How typical would that be :-( I'd be severely annoyed if that's the case! I can't afford to pay the sim-free cost :-(

Wirelessly posted (Nokia 6680: Nokia6680/1.0 (3.04.11) SymbianOS/8.0 Series60/2.6 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)



Oh kack! How typical would that be :-( I'd be severely annoyed if that's the case! I can't afford to pay the sim-free cost :-(

Well expansys's prices drop at the rate of about £50 quid a week since its release..now at £499...

Another month or so and who know's they'll be in givin em away with a big mac :)

Yes, the Think Outside keyboard works perfectly with the N93's built-in driver....

All will be revealed in our full review in a couple of days time....

Steve

Hi, please help me, after 12 hours of hard work i cannot copy my old N70's SMS folders (in E:\System\Mail) into my new N93 SDcard
(in E:\H:\Private\1000484b\Mail2) ... I mean .. i can copy messages and when reload all works fine so i can read all of my old messages but if i restart the phone it cannot load correctlyt my messages.. I've read my SD after reboot and the file named Index is size different !!! Could someone help me !!!
I'll go crazy !!! Is the correct device dir ? I've tried to write a message with formatted SDcard in my N93 and with card reader i've copied my oldest messages in the same dir.. is it correct ??

Thanks in advance.

Eh? You can't take a system file from Symbian OS 8/S60 2nd Edition and stick it somewhere on a OS 9/S60 3rd Edition device!!!!!!

Just use PC Suite's SMS support to drag and drop the SMS onto your PC and then onto your N93.

Steve Litchfield

Eh? You can't take a system file from Symbian OS 8/S60 2nd Edition and stick it somewhere on a OS 9/S60 3rd Edition device!!!!!!

Just use PC Suite's SMS support to drag and drop the SMS onto your PC and then onto your N93.

Steve Litchfield

Thanks, but where is the SMS support in PC suite software ?? You can only write and send sms.. I mean, all of my messages are in N70 memory card so you cannot view as a message but like a file and there are in System dir (hidden)..

Please help me. ! Anybody knows another software like pc suite with SMS options ?
Regards, Stefano.

Please RTFM 8-)

Hint: drag and drop messages from your 'Nokia phone browser' in Windows Explorer.

Steve

:icon4: Hi ,

I received my nokia N93 yesterday ;-)
It works great, the only problem is the messaging software does not seem to work.

It tried other Sim cards but no luck. When starting the sms (messaging) software, the screen goes blank for a slip sec (like its about to start the application) but then returns to the normal desktop screen without any error messages.

It looks like the messaging software isn't even installed and I just got a shortcut.

Can anybody help me?

Help appriciated!

Thanks.
Sebastian

:icon4: Hi ,

I received my nokia N93 yesterday ;-)
It works great, the only problem is the messaging software does not seem to work.

It tried other Sim cards but no luck. When starting the sms (messaging) software, the screen goes blank for a slip sec (like its about to start the application) but then returns to the normal desktop screen without any error messages.

It looks like the messaging software isn't even installed and I just got a shortcut.

Can anybody help me?

Help appriciated!

Thanks.
Sebastian


Try a system format, enter *#7370#

I Got a new N93 , unlocked, not blacklisted, i put the sim card of my sony w600i and sim card not registerd message was display, i tought the sim card was bad so i buy i new one , again installed on the nokia in works but from time to time the signal streght goes up and down, and this message "sim card regis failed " appears , so again take it out from the nokia installed on the sony and works perfect , is not the sim card , not unlocked not blacklisted , does anyone knows what's the problem is .( MY SERVICE PROVIDER IS CINGULAR) THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

I am having no problems at all with my N93, except for the full memory message when playing videos, but it seems it has dissapered when I installed a 2G memory card.

Sigh. Coincidence. 'Memory full' refers to RAM, not storage memory....

Steve

I know!!!

But this message has stopped bugging me since I installed a larger memory and it comes back when I stick the original one.

Now that's wierd!!!!! 8-)

Steve

New owner here too. All is fantastic so far with no problems apart from memory. Should be fixed when my card arrives next week.

I'm trying to work out if RM player will stream live TV over wifi. I have a few links to BBC and other channels I'd like to watch.


edit: Yup it will do!
If anybody wants to do the same this has a link to lots of sites http://wwitv.com/portal.htm

can anyone tell me how to save web pages when using nokia n93 browser?thks

I am getting the option to buy an N93 for around £350 off ebay. I have spoken to the seller and he seems OK but is unsure of the warranty. He says the phone is boxed and doesn't know if there's a warranty inside...

Does anyone know how the warranty works? Do Nokia put it inside the box or...?

Any advice appreciated.

They check the IMEI and can tell when it was made etc.

Steve

Will it do VoIP, as there are SIP settings inside? Didn't get a satisfactory answer in my 1st thread. Rather can it be set up to do it?

I don't know if this was covered elsewhere and if it was then please forgive me for asking again.

How is the sound quality on this phone? Is it loud enough? Is the speakerphone loud enough? What about the music output?

Thank you very much for all of the insightful information.


Luke

Just to let you know, the speaker volume is satisfactory not very loud but loud enough for all but the loudest environment.

Just got my N93 this weekend and am trying various things. I tried to send a ring tone from my 6680 by BT, but got the message "cannot send file as it is protected media" (it is a midi ring tone which I have transferred from my Sendo to various others as the old phones have either given up or been put aside.
I therefore decided to do it by card reader, but the card shows up as Read Only. Unlike larger cards, ther eis no slide I can find. How can I put files onto the card? Can I only do it via PC Suite, or do I have to do something else to redefine the card's properties?

Is there any equivalent to PC Suite for the Mac?
Thanks

Steve

I think I may be being daft, but when I receive a call from someone in my contacts list on my N93, instead of coming up with their name, it comes up with the number, making it rather difficult to identlfy the caller. Any ideas? I’ve checked everywhere I can think of.

Search on your list if You have more than one time the same number. Clean all, and leave only one.

Search on your list if You have more than one time the same number. Clean all, and leave only one.

there are no duplicates!

there are no duplicates!
Sure about... If You have a lot of contacts with multiple numbers, are You sure that are no duplications?

definitely none - I transferred all ine over from my old phone and there had been some duplication, so had to sit down and go through and make sure I deleted them all.

definitely none - I transferred all ine over from my old phone and there had been some duplication, so had to sit down and go through and make sure I deleted them all.
Maybe any other have a new idea...:frown:

This happens if you have two or more contacts with the same number, but different names.

daer all ,

i need help with my nkia N93 i cant find any program that match with it. most of sis not working.

i went to file mngr and select all still nothing.

any qualifing

You need a S60ve software. Y-Browser and Sys Explorer, both works on N93.

Anybody know what settings (Video Bitrate, resolution, Audio Bitrate etc) should be used when I convert a DVD to work on my N93?

The software I use is ImToo 3gp convertor or SUPER from www.erightsoft.com

Just try using yasa 3gp video converter to convert video to 3gp video format for your nokia n93. It works fine to me.
http://www.yasasoft.com/3gpvideoconverter/

Hi,

I have recently taken ownership of a lovely n93 having previously owned an n90. I use both devices in the car for tom tom so purchased a nf11 car kit ( the £30+ one with a speaker that plugs in the cigarette lighter wioth a fly lead that plugs in the phone).

The n90 charged and worked as does a friends n70 and I have tried a 6680 but the n93 does not despite the 'internet' sales sites telling me this car kit is compatable with the n93.

Have thesymbian OS changed to not allow charging from current Nokia connectors or is this a nokia hardware failing. Either way its pretty bl***y annoying that I now have to fork out more money for a car kit when the one I have works OK.

Has anyone found this issue?

Regards

Fullfx

It should work fine. I've been charging my N93 from a variety of chargers and accessories designed for the 6630, and it's been fine. I think there's a fault on your unit.

Steve

I have just got a friends N93 & i installed the E50 blackberry connect sopftware on it & it installed & now in the folder My Own i got an iconthat says APN Wizard with a small BB logo on it. when i clcik that it takes me to the blackberry setup & i can click NEXT, after that it asks me if i want to configure Blackberry Soultions or Instant Email. i can select either of them, but nothign elase happens after that.

do you think that BB will work on N93?

Anybody know what settings (Video Bitrate, resolution, Audio Bitrate etc) should be used when I convert a DVD to work on my N93?

The software I use is ImToo 3gp convertor or SUPER from www.erightsoft.com

3gp sux, you'd better use mpeg4. I get excellent results using SUPER. Container: mpeg4, video-codec: mpeg4, sound codec: AAC. Resolution 320x240, videobitrate 576 or a bit more, audio 48khz stereo 128kb/s. With these settings a 700mb movie boils down to about 400mb. A cartoon to about 100. The quality is so high, you can comfortably watch it on a television!!

Furthermore, these settings are compatible with ipods and PDA's. So if you rip something and whish to share it, that's good news for a lot of people.

If you reduce sound quality that makes a lot of difference in the filesize.

@ammarammar

You're using programmes for S60 1st and 2nd series symbian phones. You need S60 3rd series programmes. It's new so there's not a lot out there for it just yet but they're coming.

And please don't use such large writing, most people consider it rude.

HELP NEEDED!!
my n93 doesnt seem to be working properly..sigh
first, y is it that when i install a theme in my memory card and use it, it always gets resetted to the default theme(blue one) when i off and on my phone?
but when i install it in the phone memory everything is fine..

secondly, when i install an application(eg agile messenger) in my memory card, it works fine first but then when i reset my phone(off and on), the application doesnt work at all.. i open the application but nth happens.. i eject and insert the sd card and it works again(when the phone is on).. but only when i reset the phone then the application doesnt work..this also happened to the mobile filmmakers application pre-installed in the sd card.. i tried to reformat the sd card but nth seems to work..
HELP REALLY NEEDED!!
thanks in advance to any1 who replies!!

Yeah, I get this problem too. I ended up installing a load of apps to the phone instead. If I install it to the memory card, when I eventually switch the phone on (say after a recharge), the application is unavailable.

Man that's just unacceptable. The N93 already isn't big on working memory, and there should be no reason to have to install programs there. If I were you, I'd try out the new firmware, and if that fails, have the phone replaced =|

Hope the 20.0.058 firmware fixes yout problem!

yea.. its really unacceptable and frustrating..im gonna send the phone for repair o maybe for a replacement but first im gonna try updating to the latest firmware(20.0.058) to see whether it solves the problem.. but the problem is when is the new firmware update gonna be released?? is it available on NSU yet? the nokia center in my town only has the 11.0.034.. i guess i have to bear with it until the update is available..
thanks for the reply though..

There's some way I can do a soft reset manually? Like what happens when phone crashes sometimes, the screen goes blank and then phone boots up no pin-code needed.

Sometimes there's a need to reboot the device so it would be much easier that way than having to switch it off, then on, then input the pin-code...

There's some way I can do a soft reset manually? Like what happens when phone crashes sometimes, the screen goes blank and then phone boots up no pin-code needed.

Sometimes there's a need to reboot the device so it would be much easier that way than having to switch it off, then on, then input the pin-code...
The hole on back of phone is not the manual reset button?

Haha no, the hole is the right microphone. Notice the small "R". The left one is in fromt.

As the N93 has two of everything (camera's, screens, joypads), it also has two microphones =D

Not sure if this is the right forum, but i have a problem with my N93 battery. My battery will be zapped of all it's power in less than 24 hrs, and i have to charge it daily. This is definitely not normal. Anybody had similar experiences?

When i first got my phone, it can last 2.5 days easy. Now, it's less than 24 hrs.

I had my phone sent in twice before to fix an intermittent keypad problem, where all my number keys will hang, and only a reset will rescue it, but only for 10 minutes or so. When i got my phone back after 3 days, it came with a new firmware version 20.0.058. I thought yippee - as i read the new firmware is supposed to fix certain stability issues. Well, my phone is definitely more stable as my keypad problem is not so irritating, but still manifests itself ever so often. But the phone battery life is like totally messed up. I switched off bluetooth, wlan, ir, even set the lcd lights to the minimum, still no avail.

Any help is appreciated. Looks like this is a common problem in all the new Nokia phones, particularly the N series? Any ideas?

p/s: i don't even have memory card attached as the Nokia guys at the service centre wants me to test the stability without the mem card, saying it could the card that corrupted the firmware??? duhh... i can't imagine how, but.... And i don't even have any other application installed.

i am having trouble with text messaging with my n93 on the tmobile network in northeast america. is this network problem or phone problem?

I have a N93 with Portuguese from Portugal but the Dictionary is Brazilian Portuguese (witch is were I live).
If I update it I think I'll problably loose this dictionary. Is it true? If so can I install it again. Where can I get it?

Just explaining I bought it before it was released in Brasil. I have no idea how the guy who sold me got this dicionary on the devide.

My firmware is:

V 10.0.025
12-07-06
RM-55
N93 (01.01)

how can i transfer sms from phone to memory card
i tried changing the memory and i got a message asking me if i want to transefer i said no for the first time but i didn't get the message again
any solution

hi i was watching the Pharrell ft Snoop Dogg - That Girl and i was wondering how they did that phone book layout on the Nokia N93 does anyone know?

hi how much memory does it have internally?50 Mb or 1 GB??i heard some n93 have 1 gb internal
in the n93 boz wen u bought it,wat did u get alon with ur phone?cable?tv out stuff?handsets?manual..plz reply asap

Hi i'm interested about it

I have a N93 phone, this works at 900/1800/1900 gsm network; do you know about software to change the network to 850/900/1800/1900? Quad band.

Thanks

You can´t... Is not software, but hardware!

Not sure if this is the right forum, but i have a problem with my N93 battery. My battery will be zapped of all it's power in less than 24 hrs, and i have to charge it daily. This is definitely not normal. Anybody had similar experiences?

Kinda. Every now and then (like once every two weeks), I'll have loads of charge, then I'll suddenly find my phone switched off with no sign of life. A full recharge and I'm back on track, There's no explanation and it can be very very quick. Like in one hour or something. As it's so infrequent, I just put it down to some freak occurence. I have no idea why it happens.

Sorry

has anyone tried a 4gb mini sd card in their n93 phone? does it work? and if so what brand?

Hi,

I have two problems:

1. There are some applications which i try to uninstall. Unfortunately when i do so either nothing happens or the phone hangs. Any help?

2. The second problem is that each rime a start the phone an installation process is started also and at the end it says that it is not possible to finish the instalation from the SD card. How can i get rid of it? How i can identify the application which the phone tryes to install?

FAQ 8-)

See http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/support/item/Install_problems_on_restarting_device.php

Hey

Is it possible to add new language kits to N93 or do i have to update different region firmware and if i do, how exactly?

Best regards:
AoD

i have a question about n93:

- When you have the n93 connected to tv using the rca tvout cable, you can activate de videocamera mode??? you can see the videocamera in the tv?

thanks in advance!!!

i have a question about n93:

- When you have the n93 connected to tv using the rca tvout cable, you can activate de videocamera mode??? you can see the videocamera in the tv?

thanks in advance!!!

Yes you can

Haha no, the hole is the right microphone. Notice the small "R". The left one is in fromt.

As the N93 has two of everything (camera's, screens, joypads), it also has two microphones =D

How well does the N93 handle stereo recording?

If someone is standing to the right, will the video recording pick up on that or are the microphones too close together to make a difference?

I want to connect to our corporate wlan but have no idea how to import certificates. Can you help me?

Yes, stereo's handled pretty well. If you listen to a soundtrack with headphones on, you can certainly appreciate the full sound stage.

Steve

has anyone tried a 4gb mini sd card in their n93 phone? does it work? and if so what brand?

Nokia says it doesn't support over 2GB so it's not possible at the moment mate :(

When I connect the cable to output to the TV to my N93i, I get enhancement not supported, it used to work fine until I installed python for series 60.

Any ideas?

How do I reset the phone?

I notice the Camera/Video can't be activated when the phone screen flip to same direction with Lens. The only way to activate the Camera is flip phone screen to opposite direction to Camera Lens. Is it a bug? any way to fix?:mad: :icon13:

i just dont think your meant to use that camera to take pictures of yourself... which is rather stupid because given the choice (and seein as its very easily possible with an n93) surely youd rather take a picture of yourself with a 3.2 mega pixel camera instead of a rubbish 0.3mp camera or whatever it is...

Every time when i set a wallpaper and after i shut off the phone then system will change back the default without wallpaper which i set before.

Hi,

does anyone like me hope that we will one day soon see integrated micro projectors in our smartphones for watching video and web-browsing etc ( as well as powerpoint demos)

I am thinking of these kind of things:
www dot microvision dot com/proj.html

Has anyone heard about this kind of thing, or even a laser keyboard projector?

thanks

Philip

Hi,

Does the bluetooth on the N93i support stereo music streaming to Bluetooth headphones?

thanks

Philip

Hi,

Does the bluetooth on the N93i support stereo music streaming to Bluetooth headphones?

thanks

Philip


What about N93 as well ?

i dropped my n93 a while back now my callers can barely hear me i have to scream for them to hear me...anyway i know there is 2x mics L and R situated above the keypad, but is there a mic situated at the bottom just in case............please i need also a diagram of the mainboard just to see if mine is the same....thanx anyway