Ok Guys,

I have now finished the third charge/discharge cycle with the phone switched off when charging, and charging for 16 hours each time.

I will document the results here and also keep a log of all calls and texts sent received and any other use I have from the phone so I can get a good account of phone use.

Lets hope I get at least 48 hours use this time :)..


11.00 am - Turned phone on after final 16 hour charge - no application running, bluetooth off, wifi off

Brave attempt! But a small battery, will be always small, for well-taken care of than if it has. Is the same battery of Nokia 3230 and in this is not great thing. But the 3230 do not have the same amount of colors of the N80, have 4 times less pixels, do not have Wi-Fi nor are 3G. For much good management that is made of the same one, have-of being always short.

Brave attempt! But a small battery, will be always small, for well-taken care of than if it has. Is the same battery of Nokia 3230 and in this is not great thing. But the 3230 do not have the same amount of colors of the N80, have 4 times less pixels, do not have Wi-Fi nor are 3G. For much good management that is made of the same one, have-of being always short.

Believe me I understand all what you are saying, my battery lsts about 18 hours after charging overnight and with probably less than usual use, I know that conditioning and reconditioning batteries is very important (not sure if its too important with the battery in the N80), so I will give it a go and if I get a few more hours then I will be happy..as I said I will keep everybody here informed as to how this works.

I know it has been mentioned here before but ive tried it over the last few days and seems to help a lot.

If you set the phone to GSM only i think i get about 6 hours extra from the batery, i never use the 3g anyway so it doesnt affect me.

well I am 7 hours in now, made a few calls and sent a couple of sms, using as normal and I still have a full battery (usually I would have dropped at least 1 bar by now) so fingers crossed..looking good so far :)

If you set the phone to GSM only i think i get about 6 hours extra from the batery, i never use the 3g anyway so it doesnt affect me.

How do I set it to GSM only?

I'm interested in the results from Cash's test...

tools>settings>network>network mode>GSM

The wifi is on always ? If so how do i disconect ?

Ok 12 hour report.

Phone has been switched on for 12 hours after final 16 hour charge with phone switched off : BT-off, wifi-off, GSM mode only, no other apps running at all.

Phone use

11.55am 1 text sent
12.22pm 1 call made 22 seconds
15.10pm 1 call made 47 seconds
17.05pm 1 text sent
17.15pm 1 text received
17.17pm 1 text sent
22.45pm 1 text received
22.46pm 1 text sent
22.52pm 1 text received
22.52pm 1 text sent
22.57pm 1 text received

Battery is now down by 3 bars.....Not looking good.

Been on hols with my phone so switched it to GSM only(Mallorca) charged it Sunday night(3rd charge from new) used to play cards and make a couple of calls/texts, took about 15-20 pics with flash. Was down to 1 bar by Thursday night.

PS this was a replacement phone from Orange which came with a Orange modified version of the 017 firmware(will be replaced with the vanilla version when I get a minute as it still has that crappy photo app)

Been on hols with my phone so switched it to GSM only(Mallorca) charged it Sunday night(3rd charge from new) used to play cards and make a couple of calls/texts, took about 15-20 pics with flash. Was down to 1 bar by Thursday night.

PS this was a replacement phone from Orange which came with a Orange modified version of the 017 firmware(will be replaced with the vanilla version when I get a minute as it still has that crappy photo app)


wow looks like you got a good battery, maybe my battery is just sh*t

lol all of our batteries are a shit hahaha, nokia always had this problem, in all my smarthphones been the same problem

my smartphones
3650, N-Gage, 6600, 9500, N-Gage-QD , N80

all of the above the battery was a sh*t

Last update before I go to bed

Ok its been 16 hours now since the phone was switched back on, I havn't touched the phone or had any new text or calls since my last post and the battery level is now down to 1 bar, I am guessing that it will be flat in the usual 18 hours that I seem to get out of a charge.

Extremely dissapointed and anoyed because I only made 2 very short calls and sent/received 9 texts, very very poor

So much for the charge dischrge for 16 hours while phone is off

Doesnt improve battery life and is a waste of time in my test.

Back to the drawing board, I think I may go back to the shop to get a replacement battery and see if that helps.

will also try the charger from my old nokia tonight just in case there is a problem with the charger.

Goodnight all

Last update before I go to bed

Ok its been 16 hours now since the phone was switched back on, I havn't touched the phone or had any new text or calls since my last post and the battery level is now down to 1 bar, I am guessing that it will be flat in the usual 18 hours that I seem to get out of a charge.

Extremely dissapointed and anoyed because I only made 2 very short calls and sent/received 9 texts, very very poor

So much for the charge dischrge for 16 hours while phone is off

Doesnt improve battery life and is a waste of time in my test.

Back to the drawing board, I think I may go back to the shop to get a replacement battery and see if that helps.

will also try the charger from my old nokia tonight just in case there is a problem with the charger.

Goodnight all

Sorry to hear that. Maybe it's because it needs to be done with a new battery? But I'm still getting 2-3 days with a lot heavier usage than that. Do you have a network specific or generic firmware? What theme are you using?

Sorry to hear that. Maybe it's because it needs to be done with a new battery? But I'm still getting 2-3 days with a lot heavier usage than that. Do you have a network specific or generic firmware? What theme are you using?

I dont use themes, and the firmware is generic.

Such as it had said, a small battery will be always a small battery. The 3230 with this same battery, and although well more to be saved than the hard N80 in the same one very little. It is not your battery that is bad, is is small excessively for in such a way phone. Exactly the N70, the stack is too much weak. In the N91, the same thing. Therefore I have some increased hope, in the N93 or N73, therefore they have a battery that me it seems well capable. But it is very consumption for batteries so limited. As I had said once, glory days, with 6310i and is optional battery of 1500mAh! Between 14 - 18 days of hard work. I continue to have this device, for when necessary very much time...

Just seems so weird - I'm not having any troubles at all (and from what I read, more with me?)

You did the first initial charge this way? From empty to full, without the phone on?

I just dont know why Nokia created such a phone with such a small battery, they must know how to work out consumption usage on average phone use and should have realized the figures dont add up.

Did they not think that this would be a big concern and even jeopadize the saleability of the N80, I already know of 3 people who love my phone and would buy one, but when I tell them it lasts less than 24 hours they said they will not buy it.

From nokia website they say standby is 8 days, I have left my phone on untill discharged with all battery saving things I could think of and I still dont get more than 20 hours, and thats without even making a call or sending a text, they should be done under trading standard laws, and the 3 hour talk time is just a ridiculous claim.

I know they say their tests are under optimal conditions, but I cant get more optimal than just charging the phone and leaving it alone without using it, I live in the heart of a capital city with full signal strength.

I understand that a higher capacity battery would make the phone more bulky, but I would put up with that to have some extra battery power, with older Nokia phones you were able to get a slimline battery and a more bulky high capacity battery that just clipped onto the phone, its something they should concider for these high consumption phones, the old 7110 springs to mind

Just seems so weird - I'm not having any troubles at all (and from what I read, more with me?)

You did the first initial charge this way? From empty to full, without the phone on?

Yes, I have had dozens of hand held phones from way back to 1988 and understand the need to condition the battery on the first few charge/discharge cycles.

F I have left my phone on untill discharged with all battery saving things I could think of and I still dont get more than 20 hours, and thats without even making a call or sending a text, they should be done under trading standard laws, and the 3 hour talk time is just a ridiculous claim.

If you only get 20hrs with everything turned off and no calls then you must have a dodgy phone or battery. y borrowing someone elses BL5B battery and if that is no different then I'd suggest its your phone.

If you only get 20hrs with everything turned off and no calls then you must have a dodgy phone or battery. y borrowing someone elses BL5B battery and if that is no different then I'd suggest its your phone.

I am already going to change the battery and charger later today if I get the time, but many other people are also reporting less than 24 hours battery life, so I dont think the battery or charger is faulty, maybe it could be a bad batch of batteries ..

I honestly think you have a bad battery. Like I mentioned I'm getting around 2.5 - 3 days with mine and that is with decent usage even though I don't use Wifi and mine is constantly in 3G mode. I did the battery conditioning immediatly though so that could be a factor.

I honestly think you have a bad battery. Like I mentioned I'm getting around 2.5 - 3 days with mine and that is with decent usage even though I don't use Wifi and mine is constantly in 3G mode. I did the battery conditioning immediatly though so that could be a factor.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, there are also many people here getting less than 24 hours, and also on other forums including the forum at Nokia, I think its a real problem, I thinbk for some reason you got a lucky phone :)..I may have heard of maybe 1 or 2 others getting over 24 hours ..

It worth bearing in mind that you are much more likely to hear from people who are having battery problems than those who are not.

I do think the N80 battery could be bigger, and I would imagine this may chnage in future phone.

It worth bearing in mind that you are much more likely to hear from people who are having battery problems than those who are not.

I do think the N80 battery could be bigger, and I would imagine this may chnage in future phone.

I agree Rafe, so I am hoping a replacement will solve the problem, I will report back when I have it and used it for a week or so

I can get 24 hours easily if I use the phone heavily, wlan 1 hour but always on, 3g on, bluetooth on, sat nav for 1 hour into work and home again with screen lit up, coupl eof calls, take a couple of pics, send a couple of texts, watch a couple of short vids.

but if I have wlan and 3g on but don't actually use them and leave the phoone in standby I can get 3 days .

I have just turned off 3g but left wlan on to see what this gives.

I do the overnight charge and drain to poweroff for the first couple of weeks with any new phone , then I have a charger at home, work and in the car so I can keep it topped up when I need to . Every week I will let it drain down once. (I do have a cheap spare battery in my wallet just for emergencies)

I am happy with the phone, wlan is great and camera is ok, but not great. I will keep this til the n83 comes out 6mp, optical zoom and autofocus, if I remember correctly.

K800i is just not "smart" enough for me.

The n80 is a mino computer not a phone and they could have given a bigger battery but that may have made it a bigger phone.

Cash - get a new battery or even swap the phone for a new one.

I agree with the other comment above that more folks will post about a bad battery than a good one.

Scotchgitt

cheers scotchgitt for comments,

I am reluctant to swap the actual phone because the build quality and the actual operation of the phone is really good, and I dont want to risk getting another phone that may have some other issue's that have been reported here, i.e. build quality, slider problems etc, but I will certainly get a new battery.

I dont know if you read my new post today but having activated sleep mode and fiddled abit with display settings I still have full battery strength after after 26 HOURS :) :) :) .. but thats not using any of the "smart" features, and as I bought the phone because of the wifi capabilities its still a little frustrating that if I use wifi the battery will drain quite quickly.

But I am going to wait a few days before I go get a new battery, I am just interested now in how long I can get out of this battery with the setting I have now :)

Cash

If it's any consolation, my N80's battery is pants too. Charge in the morning, light use during the day with no 3G use, a little GPRS (email checks couple of times a day and about 5k of IM), switch off in the evening and come the morning it will be on 2 bars and need recharging again.

I love the phone (and think the camera/video is great) but the battery is useless. Not being able to be use the phone without power within a 24 hour period seriously negates its useability. I had thought I could go on a w/e in the country with this (and the GPS facilities of Viewranger) but its battery consumption seriously limits this. (and no, I really can't be bothered with a phone where I need to keep swapping batteries over. It shouldn't be a chore to use it)

Cash

If it's any consolation, my N80's battery is pants too. Charge in the morning, light use during the day with no 3G use, a little GPRS (email checks couple of times a day and about 5k of IM), switch off in the evening and come the morning it will be on 2 bars and need recharging again.

I love the phone (and think the camera/video is great) but the battery is useless. Not being able to be use the phone without power within a 24 hour period seriously negates its useability. I had thought I could go on a w/e in the country with this (and the GPS facilities of Viewranger) but its battery consumption seriously limits this. (and no, I really can't be bothered with a phone where I need to keep swapping batteries over. It shouldn't be a chore to use it)

Exactly, this phone should be a pleasure to use, without the worry of having to restrict your time on the apps because of the battery life,

I really cant figure out why Nokia released this phone with this battery, its a question on par with how did the universe begin or whats the meaning of life :)

Surely their massivly financed and highly skilled development team have a calculater that can work out average power consumption v power availability.

Maybe they just have an unlimited amount of monkeys messing around with electronics and this is what they came up with :)...give the monkeys a calculater !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyway I guess you guys are all fed up with me keep going on about the battery, but with my phone its the battery and the camera that are the only things giving me grief, and I can live without the camera, I cant live without a phone.

Well I did the test and cycle. My maximum battery life with a few text and calls was from 8th July 6 am to 10th July 8pm. 2 days and a half. Still poor. Phone in GSM mode, didn't use any smart aplications, sleep mode on, light sensor down by one notch, no open aplications, almost always with full network coverage, etc.
Just plain simply disappointing.

@Cash
Unlike you I "can't live" without the camera. I use(d) it all the time on my K750i, specially at night.

Regds

I saw today the E70 review here: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e70-review-96.php. Why I speek about that... because the battery inside E70. In this review they said is good... of course is good! Should be. Is the same in N-Gage QD with 1150mAh, on the same screen of N80. Between N80 battery and this one, we have 40% more juice inside! In N-gage QD is also good, so, nothing new.

Well I did the test and cycle. My maximum battery life with a few text and calls was from 8th July 6 am to 10th July 8pm. 2 days and a half. Still poor. Phone in GSM mode, didn't use any smart aplications, sleep mode on, light sensor down by one notch, no open aplications, almost always with full network coverage, etc.
Just plain simply disappointing.

@Cash
Unlike you I "can't live" without the camera. I use(d) it all the time on my K750i, specially at night.

Regds

Your complaining at 2 and a half days? WOW what do you want?

Your complaining at 2 and a half days? WOW what do you want?


yea, If I can get up to 2.5 days I will be well happy :)..

Surely their massivly financed and highly skilled development team have a calculater that can work out average power consumption v power availability.

Maybe they just have an unlimited amount of monkeys messing around with electronics and this is what they came up with :)...give the monkeys a calculater !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody at Nokia probably got quietly demoted/sacked/blamed by the real culprit etc. I would not be totally surprised if they release an N80i in 3 months with a higher capacity battery, enhanced (de-bugged) firmware etc.

D:cool:

@Jayd

But in real life I will never achieve that long again. It was only a test I did this weekend after the charge / discharge cycle. Only got 2.5 days without using the mobile (3 or 4 sms, 1 or 2 calls).
Regds

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I am amazed with people complaining with battery life etc... but overlook one single most important factor: Operator Signal.

1) If you are located in area with good coverage, the power drained during no-activity is very low, and vice versa. If you're keep getting anything lower than full bar of signal, it'll transmit more power.

2) If you're roaming in other countries, your phone most likely change from one operator to another. This requires higher power usage and thus consume the battery faster.

3) If you're driving a lot or moving from one place to one place, you may change Base station frequently, thus increasing power drain as it needs to update the operator where you have moved.

Wanna have a consistant test result? Use it in offline mode and play a single standard songs repeatedly, this you can compare apple to apple not apple to oranges.

I'm using latest version v4.0623.0.36 soon available in Nokia service center. Don't ask me where to get the firmware!!

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tell us more about that firmware..

i cant wait to get my hands on that.

I am amazed with people complaining with battery life etc... but overlook one single most important factor: Operator Signal.

1) If you are located in area with good coverage, the power drained during no-activity is very low, and vice versa. If you're keep getting anything lower than full bar of signal, it'll transmit more power.

2) If you're roaming in other countries, your phone most likely change from one operator to another. This requires higher power usage and thus consume the battery faster.

3) If you're driving a lot or moving from one place to one place, you may change Base station frequently, thus increasing power drain as it needs to update the operator where you have moved.

Wanna have a consistant test result? Use it in offline mode and play a single standard songs repeatedly, this you can compare apple to apple not apple to oranges.

I'm using latest version v4.0623.0.36 soon available in Nokia service center. Don't ask me where to get the firmware!!

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Your points dont apply to my test, we live in the real world and product should be tested as such, not in optimal conditions as nokia tests and releases their data, I live in the center of a capital city wih an antenna not too far away, I have full battery strength, and when I made my test the phone was kept at home for the whole of the test near a window where the mast overlooks, and I still only got 18 hours battery life after only receiving a dozen text messages and 2 very short calls,

Thats why I am complaining about my battery strength !!!!!, and I assume the reason why everybody else with a poor battery life is also.

If it was just one or 2 people then fine I can see something may be wrong with the phone or the settings, but there are a great deal of people who are using their phones as they should be used, dont forget its a smart phone not just a phone or an MP3 player and they are getting way less than 24 hours, in my books this is not acceptable and as I have stated in other posts Nokia has released this phone with an inferior battery that is not up to the job which it is intended for .

Sorry to preach but its a very big problem when out and about and the phone dies.

Just an update on my battery life with phone in sleep mode and hardly any calls or text messages, and no other apps being used

I am on 50 hours now since the last recharge and the battery indicater has only dropped 2 bars.

Remember though I am only using the phone now as purely a phone and not using any other feature of the phone, and its in sleep mode.

I agree Cash.....
First off let me say.....I love this phone it's a great piece of kit, and I primarily prefer SE phones.

But let’s get this clear the battery is not man enough for the job. I would be first to say that I hate the negative press about this phone because I like the N80 but Nokia MUST do something about the battery capacity. :frown:

All the positive spin about it being a smart phone with lots of features is just that, spin, Nokia have put better batteries in phones with fewer features. I have to say that I hope Nokia is watching and listening to their customers and release a better battery and or at least do us the curiosity of saying what their intentions are so we and future purchasers can make an informed decision.
I think it’s time all N80 users who want to use all the capabilities of this phone petition Nokia for a bigger capacity phone and thus remove one of the most negative issue with the N80. I can certainly live with everything else.

Sorry for the long post… all comments/views welcome. :icon14:

T.

If you want Nokia to listen post it on their forums, why should they monitor here for problems with their phone?

Lol

That’s a naïve comment, I work for a big multi national, and we monitor sites for product comments it’s called R&D. :)

I am amazed with people complaining with battery life etc... but overlook one single most important factor: Operator Signal.

1) If you are located in area with good coverage, the power drained during no-activity is very low, and vice versa. If you're keep getting anything lower than full bar of signal, it'll transmit more power.

2) If you're roaming in other countries, your phone most likely change from one operator to another. This requires higher power usage and thus consume the battery faster.

3) If you're driving a lot or moving from one place to one place, you may change Base station frequently, thus increasing power drain as it needs to update the operator where you have moved.

Wanna have a consistant test result? Use it in offline mode and play a single standard songs repeatedly, this you can compare apple to apple not apple to oranges.

I'm using latest version v4.0623.0.36 soon available in Nokia service center. Don't ask me where to get the firmware!!

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That screen grab looks photoshopped if you ask me. You have no launguge after Nokia N80 ie (08) and you have no network provider even though you have a 3G signal.

If you want Nokia to listen post it on their forums, why should they monitor here for problems with their phone?

Nokia dont let people with grievences post their views on the Nokia forum, they either censor edit or close the thread down.

Just go on there and have a look

@Cash
50 hours and only 2 bars drop? How much do you want for your battery? Seems great. With that usage I only got 60 hours autonomy as I said in previous post.
Regds

@Cash
50 hours and only 2 bars drop? How much do you want for your battery? Seems great. With that usage I only got 60 hours autonomy as I said in previous post.
Regds

Hi winfield, you need to read my posts correctly.

I have 50 hours, thats not using the phone as a smart phone but just as a phone, without BT, wifi, gprs and without playing games, music, video, browsing the web, sending mms, using the notebook, office, connecting to my computer and installing programs and using these programs, taking pictures and video....well I think you get the idea.

If I just wanted a phone to use as a phone I wouldn't have paid £400 on the N80, I would have gotten one for free.

This latest test was to see the longest I could get out of my phone with the absoulutely minimum use, with everything switched off and the phone in sleep mode, I f I use the phone with normal use I get just 18 hours charge although I need to do another test with sleep mode activated as I mentioned in a previous post,I dont want minimum use I want normal use.

Hope you understand now.

@Cash
I read your post correctly. That was the same test I did. Sleep mode activated, GSM mode. Wifi off. BT off. No camera, video, gallery, apps. Nothing. 2 or 3 calls, 5 or 6 sms and got only 60hrs off it.
Regds

@Cash
I read your post correctly. That was the same test I did. Sleep mode activated, GSM mode. Wifi off. BT off. No camera, video, gallery, apps. Nothing. 2 or 3 calls, 5 or 6 sms and got only 60hrs off it.
Regds

Ok I see...I didnt read your post correctly, accept my appologies :)..

Well the battery actually only lasted 60 hours anyway, the final bars seemed to dissapear rather quickly.

I removed the operator text and variant information (..) for anonymity reason. But i do have the firmware :-)

Anyhow, I know the battery life is worse than others. But I always have two nokia charger in my desk. When I'm working in my desk, I plugged them into the charger. When i'm my car, I have a carkit that charge the phone.

On top of this, I always carry extra battery in my suitcase...

So battery is not a problem.... When I use firmware 1.x.x.x, the battery life was only 2 hours :) but now it has gone better...

I removed the operator text and variant information (..) for anonymity reason. But i do have the firmware :-)

Anyhow, I know the battery life is worse than others. But I always have two nokia charger in my desk. When I'm working in my desk, I plugged them into the charger. When i'm my car, I have a carkit that charge the phone.

On top of this, I always carry extra battery in my suitcase...

So battery is not a problem.... When I use firmware 1.x.x.x, the battery life was only 2 hours :) but now it has gone better...

So whats the problem in sharing it if you have it?

I've just completed the 3 cycle recharges and have to say I've seen a vast improvement so far in battery life. Since finishing the final charge yesterday I've made a few calls prob about 15 mins in total and sent some texts out. Played Snakes for about 10 mins last night, used alarm this morning [snoozed a couple of times haha] and had a missed call ring out this afternoon also used planet 3 for about 10 mins. Phone is still on full bars over 24 hours later!! Result!!! I have bluetooth and wifi off. using a theme called 'dark' or something similar and have all of my power save settings to maximum ie shortest timeouts etc. Screen illumination is set to medium. I have 3g still enabled [when i have signal] but it's still looking for it. I'm probably still gonna keep my eye out for a battery with a hight mAH value as longer the better is still the case but at least I'm getting resonable life out of the standard batt.

I have just found this site about batteries if anybody is interested in taking the time to read, look for lithium - ion in the table

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm

It appears ther are a number of key issues with the lithium - ion battery

1, they DONT need the initial full charge that we are all told they need to get full capacity.

2, they DONT require any charge/discharge cyles, except for once per month is reccommended.

3, full cycle charging should be avoided as this creates wear and full discharging should also be avoided, low voltage may cut off safety circuits.

4, its recommended to charge more often while the battery has capacity then to wait for a full discharge and then do a complete full charge, the battery lasts longer with partial rather than full discharges


so as my battery discharges every day with normal use and I have no means to charge it up untill I get home, then have to apply a full charge over night this does actually damage the usefull life of the battery!!!!!!!!!!!! and surely that has to be seen as a fundamental design flaw of the N80

Right, well my new battery should be here by tomorrow. Im gonna put it on charge as soon as i get it, leave it for about 3-5hrs then use it itll 3 bars and recharge. Im just gonna send my old battery back to Orange and forget about the 16hr charge, fully discharge cycle.

Hopefully it'll be fine. What people thinking? Follow Isidor Buchmann?

From the site:
About the Author
Isidor Buchmann is the founder and CEO of Cadex Electronics Inc., in Vancouver BC.
Mr. Buchmann has a background in radio communications and has studied the behavior of rechargeable batteries in practical, everyday applications for two decades. Award winning author of many articles and books on batteries, Mr. Buchmann has delivered technical papers around the world.

Mr Buchmann gets my vote,

When I did my 16 hour charge/recharge cycles I didn't see any improvement at all in the life of the battery.

I dont actually think these batteries are as tempremental as we are led to believe, I have even taken batteries back before and the assistance have told me that they wont replace if I didnt go through the initial charge period, i think its just an excuse to get out of giving a replacement.

If the initial charge was that important, then all batteries would either be supplied fully charged, or fully discharged, not partially charged.

Cash - I dont actually think these batteries are as tempremental as we are led to believe -

I believe that nowadays, the batteries (Li- Ion / Li - Pol) are as the engine of the cars, already they had been tested in board, before came out to the market. On fact its duration does not depend on the initial form of the use!

Cash - I dont actually think these batteries are as tempremental as we are led to believe -

I believe that nowadays, the batteries (Li- Ion / Li - Pol) are as the engine of the cars, already they had been tested in board, before came out to the market. On fact its duration does not depend on the initial form of the use!

Agreed, if the initial charge was that important, then they would either be supplied fully charged or fully discharged, not partially charged as they always are.

well i have to say something, im pretty happy with my n80s battery cuz im not getting those problems of 3 hrs of usage, im always connected to wifi, i use agile messenger a lot im always cheking my mail, openning pdf and docs, like 10 texts per day a couple of calls like 15 mins per day, and when i get home i swich off wifi and i still get 2 bars on phone, i plug it to charge at 12 then i wake up at 7 go and take a shower i unplug it like 8:00 and i go office, then i switch wlan on, wlan its turned on like 6 hrs and a half and i have bluetooth always on, i use GSM and GPRS there is no 3G on mexico my firmware is the latest flashed with the .08 firmware file, i bought it like 3 month ago, at the beginning i had to use my secondary batt that is on my wallet (this is the one that came with the phone), i bought my BL-5b batt from a nokia service center and its the one im using right now because i noticed that the replacement was better than the factory battery it lasted a lot more.

well i have to say something, im pretty happy with my n80s battery cuz im not getting those problems of 3 hrs of usage, im always connected to wifi, i use agile messenger a lot im always cheking my mail, openning pdf and docs, like 10 texts per day a couple of calls like 15 mins per day, and when i get home i swich off wifi and i still get 2 bars on phone, i plug it to charge at 12 then i wake up at 7 go and take a shower i unplug it like 8:00 and i go office, then i switch wlan on, wlan its turned on like 6 hrs and a half and i have bluetooth always on, i use GSM and GPRS there is no 3G on mexico my firmware is the latest flashed with the .08 firmware file, i bought it like 3 month ago, at the beginning i had to use my secondary batt that is on my wallet (this is the one that came with the phone), i bought my BL-5b batt from a nokia service center and its the one im using right now because i noticed that the replacement was better than the factory battery it lasted a lot more.

Wow, good to hear that somebody is able to use the phone as it should be used, if I put my wifi on I am lucky to get 2.5 hours before the battery gets flat, may try getting them to change the battery and see if I get an improvement like you,

My battery went flat again last night at about 9 pm after a full charge the night before without much use of the phone :(

One thing that anoys me is that on my phone there is no warning that the battery is low and many times the phone is switched off because I didnt know the battery had died, anybody else noticed this.

It´s strange! I do not say that yes or that not, but it´s strange. Nowadays the production of this type of materials, is carried through accordance with rigorous processes and standard, then to have great discrepancies between devices and batteries will not have to happen. It has a factor of great influence, the net of the operator. But this factor only, couldn´t imply great differences in the duration of the battery. Is strange!

I have been reading some of the old pre release reviews of the N80 from last year and the begining of this year, and many of the reviews said that the 2 main dissapontments, and possible saleability issue with the N80 were the poor camera quality and the dissapointing battery life.

Do Nokia not listen to the feedback from these reviewers,

These were known issues before the phone was released, and as such should have been rectified

Ok I am not going to go on about the battery anymore, I think I have said enough and I cant really add anything else that may be constructive :)

I have been reading some of the old pre release reviews of the N80 from last year and the begining of this year, and many of the reviews said that the 2 main dissapontments, and possible saleability issue with the N80 were the poor camera quality and the dissapointing battery life.

Do Nokia not listen to the feedback from these reviewers,

These were known issues before the phone was released, and as such should have been rectified

Ok I am not going to go on about the battery anymore, I think I have said enough and I cant really add anything else that may be constructive :)

Same to me. I´m tired to talk about battery life. If samebody wants a brave battery life, use a 6310i - a champion. The others, over all the recent symbian phones have more or less limitations. That´s it!

Guys,

For what it's worth, the battery on my N80 lasted 4 days - admittedly i'm not using all the features - a few 2 minute calls, some 40 odd texts in and out, wifi for about 10 minutes.

Still, it's not that bad is it?

Hey Cash i hope u have luck with ur phone battery life, really i would not change this phone for anything well just for a new N8x lol

Hey Cash i hope u have luck with ur phone battery life, really i would not change this phone for anything well just for a new N8x lol

No I think I will keep the phone, I really do love it, the size and shape and look I think are very good (I actually prefer a slightly bigger and heavier phone, because at least I know I have it in my pocket), and I get a great WOW factor from my friends everytime I show it off, especially the wifi with orb and remote desktop etc

Just a real shame about the couple of problems with the battery and the camera, apart from those this would actually be the perfect phone, well I think and hope that Nokia can do something about the battery, but I dont think there is much they can do about the camera, like you say looking forward to the next N8x :).. lets hope Nokia are listening to their customers.