hi guys

from topic

i have adsl on my pc. I want to use my bluetooth connection to share the net access that my pc has with then phone.

any ideas how i can do that

its so i can run irc in the house, maybe surf the net when im taking a shit in the toilet?!?!??!

Use your imagination !

come on

22 views and no-one knows?

do u think a small network app may ned to be coded for the phone to allow this?

It's very easy!

Tools, Settings, Connection, Access Points, Options, New Access Point, Use default settings.

Connection name: Bluetooth DSL
Date bearer: GPRS
Access pont name: none
User name: None
Prompt password: No
Password: None (default)
Authentication: Secure
Gateway IP address: 0.0.0.0

Save this and connect your 7650 to the Bluetooth COM-Port.
The mRouter Tray-Icon should show now that the device is successfully connected.

Next open the program of your choice (Wireless IRC) an select "Bluetooth DSL" as default connection - that's it!

It works with nearly all programs except the default browser.

hmmm

i get an error message

GPRS: GPRS not available. Check network services

and my serial port bluetooth connection is definitely acitve

Same here :(

Sometimes i wished i had bluetooth on my pc to help out with you guys!

But sorry, i have no bluetooth or GPRS (the second one is my country's fault)

But be patient guest (why don't you register? Its free :D)
Your questions will be answered (hopefully) and not left out with no replies (except for those really really complicated questions that involve Calculus and opening the dictionary alot)
:D

Hello!! This is my very first post! :D

Just thought I would reply to this topic as I used the method as detailed in this topic without any problems. I am now able to use webviewer on my phone to surf the net with my ADSL connection. No problems at all. Although i haven't tried using "wirelessIRC" yet.

woohooo

just got my bt today

and i tried with webviever and i can share the net

but when i using the wireless irc it says gprs not available


why why why :roll: :roll:

If only i could share my Broadband ( Cable ) with my phone *Sigh* :(

sweet

got this working

woohoo

i also got bluetooth working and nokia suite working under windows xp

woohoo

Just thought I would reply to this topic as I used the method as detailed in this topic without any problems. I am now able to use webviewer on my phone to surf the net with my ADSL connection. No problems at all. Although i haven't tried using "wirelessIRC" yet.

I can't get webviewer to work through bluetooth, but can get email to work. With Wireless IRC, just set the default access point to "none", then it works a treat.

IM+ will try to work through IrDa or Bluetooth before it asks you to select and access point.

Webviewer *tries* to work, but seems to time out. The mRouter Icon flashes, so it seems to be getting data, but nothing comes back.

Any hints?

cheers

Andy.

Well,you are going to have hard time making every app for the 7650 to work,its a miracle that you got this far because you should not have.
Why? I've read somewhere that internet sharing was supported only one way with the 7650,it can serve internet (GPRS,GSM Data etc etc) but it cannot participate as a client,you guys did it,we should put this in the faq.

sweeeet 8)

OH WOW!! I got it to Work through IrDa to My Broadband with webview..!! :D Thanks Guys ,.. Now I wanna Buy Blue TooTH ...
Brilliant !!! Im so Happy! :angel:

Well,you are going to have hard time making every app for the 7650 to work,its a miracle that you got this far because you should not have.
Why? I've read somewhere that internet sharing was supported only one way with the 7650,it can serve internet (GPRS,GSM Data etc etc) but it cannot participate as a client,you guys did it,we should put this in the faq.

aye

the guy in forum nokia told me this was impossible as well

i got wireless irc to work fine, again, select access point as "none"

also got webviewer working, pain in the neck though as you have to select your access point every time you load a page. still good though

hell....who am i kidding, i woke up in th middle of the night, grabbed my phone and checked the net to see the scotland score. this net sharing over bluetooth is so sweet

PS portugal beat us 2 - 0, but we only had half a team

Hmmm.. Can you use this BT connection with Oplayer/RealOne player as well?

Ok! I Repeat my question!!

Is it possible to share my Cable Broadband on my PC to my phone ?? Anyone tried this?

Thanks

Ok! I Repeat my question!!

Is it possible to share my Cable Broadband on my PC to my phone ?? Anyone tried this?

Thanks

Have you not read the thread? :roll:

the answer is "yes"

[quote="sanjay2402"]Ok! I Repeat my question!!

Is it possible to share my Cable Broadband on my PC to my phone ?? Anyone tried this?

Thanks

Have you not read the thread? :roll:
the answer is "yes"[/
quote]
I'm replying on my 7650. Hence cant elaborate much. but That was rude!! Try to understand the question first! Or did you miss the CABLE? :roll: . thanks for replying anyway.

calm down m8

:D :D

the answer is yes u can share the connection :D :D

I'm replying on my 7650. Hence cant elaborate much. but That was rude!! Try to understand the question first! Or did you miss the CABLE? . thanks for replying anyway.

Try to understand that it doesnt matter which kind of connection you use on your computer

Spoilt my evening seeing that post!!! Anyways, hope to get it working when i get home to make up for it. :)

Me still on phone. Sorry guys. Perhaps i was attaching too importance to "ADSL" . I feel sheepish now having read the procedure a couple more times. But such remarks are certainly not in keeping with the mood of our friendly forum.
Thanks all.

I'm replying on my 7650. Hence cant elaborate much. but That was rude!! Try to understand the question first! Or did you miss the CABLE? :roll: . thanks for replying anyway.

Sanjay, it wasn't rude.

The first time you posted in this thread, you simply made a statement. You didn't ask for help or advice. The second time you posted, you asked a question. - Which I did understand, and to which I gave an answer. I didn't see the point in running over the details that had already been posted in the thread, replacing one method of connecting to the internet with another.

Maybe you should try to understand the answers first! ;)

(and that wasn't rude either, it was a joke)

I hope that you've managed to get it all working.

Andy.

I agree with ephebe,people should read the whole thread first before posting.

So.... Nobody have tried it with Oplayer/RealOne-player?

So.... Nobody have tried it with Oplayer/RealOne-player?

I haven't raven, but I will give it a go, if I can find enough space to install them.

Cheers

Andy

Thanks Andy, let me know if it works.

Re: OPlayer and Real Player...

Thanks Andy, let me know if it works.

Bad news I'm afraid. I can't get either to work.

Real sets "none" as its access point when it is installed, If you try and connect to a URL while its still set like that, it makes you select a proper access point. I choose my "bluetooth" AP, the [G] flashes for a second, and then Real player tells me that its not a valid GPRS connection, and suggests that I contact my network to get GPRS setup. mRouter doesnt flash at all :(

Oplayer does pretty much the same thing. It makes me select an Access Point. I chose "bluetooth", the [G] flashes, and then Oplayer says "The selected Internet access point is invalid. Please go to settings and choose another Access Point". mRouter doesn't flash at all. :(

I said that you will have hard time trying to make every app to work with this quasi internet sharing :)
But dont let this stop you from trying,afterall,they said that this was impossible :)

:D :D :D :D I Got it working!!! :D :D :D :D

Thanks =>XScale.de!!! for sharing the trick with us!!

And Ephebe. I take back my words. Now i see i was really stupid not having read it thoroughly ( how could i have missed it?? :x ) and assuming things without even giving a try ( Even i do ask ppl/Newbies to read threads and search topics first before posting questions )


Anyways...

Thanks all

PS: My anger..and consequent posts from the phone cost me like $10 :o :( (GPRS is too expensive here :x ) Another lesson learnt!! :D :D :D

I did that.. got it working I think.. but I'm still charged ( A LOT ) for browsing the web. I just drained 30$ by accident :evil: :evil: :black:

:D :D :D :D I Got it working!!! :D :D :D :D

Thanks =>XScale.de!!! for sharing the trick with us!!

And Ephebe. I take back my words. Now i see i was really stupid not having read it thoroughly ( how could i have missed it?? :x ) and assuming things without even giving a try ( Even i do ask ppl/Newbies to read threads and search topics first before posting questions )


Anyways...

Thanks all

PS: My anger..and consequent posts from the phone cost me like $10 :o :( (GPRS is too expensive here :x ) Another lesson learnt!! :D :D :D


Woo Hoo!

Well done. I'm glad it's working for you. No hard feelings! :)

Andy

I really dont see why did you have to start a GPRS connection and get charged?

just got mine working on im+ and webviewer, I don't see it will incur gprs charges cos' i don't see gprs connection during the surfing with im+ and webviewer. Its just flashes in the begining connection after that dissapear,maybe just for a few 0.0??? kb charges. will try on oplayer to see whether it work

hi, no success with oplayer but still happy that im+ and webviewer works. Just a question, for my case, I need to re-choose the connection everytime a new page loaded, anyway to make this auto? I'm using IR connection now, I guess its time to get an bluetooth adaptor

its working with yftp as well.

And also TipicME :angel:

is there any way other than i must connect it to the mrouter first ???

cos i disabled the mrouter from the startup

I dont understand what is your problem pichu,why disabling mrouter from startup?

Even if u did (disable Mrouter) you can always start the pc suit to run it.

PS: Just checked it. No. You cant use the PC net connection without the mRouter running.

I dont understand what is your problem pichu,why disabling mrouter from startup?

i don't like to many icons on my taskbar so i just disabled it

and i hav like 5 icons on my taskbar already and i'm using win ME so i can;t make it shor like in Win xp

:D :D

Even if u did (disable Mrouter) you can always start the pc suit to run it.

PS: Just checked it. No. You cant use the PC net connection without the mRouter running.


lol yeah that;s waht i've been doing i open the pc suite then close it lol

but just wonderin is there any other way

so the answer is no isn;t it :cry: :cry:

thx

:D :D That's what i have been doing too.. for precicely the same reason. I dont like it to take long on reboot, and the icon sitting on my systray doing nothing. I'm on ME too :D :D

:D :D That's what i have been doing too.. for precicely the same reason. I dont like it to take long on reboot, and the icon sitting on my systray doing nothing. I'm on ME too :D :D

:D :D :D :D :D :D

btw just asking bout ur bt software is it widcomm ??

if so hav u experienced any crash with the software ??

cos sometimes i experienced the crash or maybe it's bcos of my window blinds thingy

the crash is "Iexplorer error in <unknown>"

i dunno what is this :D

Wow,WinME,thats not an OS,its a curse :)

I'm on TECOM Bluetooth Software 1.2.2.16 (Widdcom Stack)

It has been no problem for me :) ( i also did not have to change the registry to "Accept Other". It was set to accept other by default :D )

Let me know if i can be on any help :D

lol

when i installed the software for the first time it was crash "Explorer Error" then if i open other prog even a notepad it's always crash

luckily the cd writer s/w is not crash so i back up all my data and reformat the laptop

and now it's no problem but after i installed windowblinds ( app that changes the Shell for explorer) sometimes the explorer is crashed

huh

Umm.. Pichu...

These are only my thoughts..
I dont want to be too judgemental here. Afterall, its personal tastes/ Preferences/ Needs/ Necessities..but..

I just read about Windowblinds, and i saw lot many other ppl seem to be having similar problems of crashing with that software. I'm sure you are going to be using a BT lot now...( I know u were using Infra erlier..but BT is irresistible ..u always want to fiddle with it..because of the sheer ease of use and and also new applications coming out for the phone, and just TRYING the BT out )

If i were you, i would'nt have compromised easy BT usage, constant crashing of system with a SW like blin.... just for cosmetic reasons, and the slight improvement in UI.

Consider unistalling it.
But ultimately..its your choice!!
:D :D

Umm.. Pichu...

These are only my thoughts..
I dont want to be too judgemental here. Afterall, its personal tastes/ Preferences/ Needs/ Necessities..but..

I just read about Windowblinds, and i saw lot many other ppl seem to be having similar problems of crashing with that software. I'm sure you are going to be using a BT lot now...( I know u were using Infra erlier..but BT is irresistible ..u always want to fiddle with it..because of the sheer ease of use and and also new applications coming out for the phone, and just TRYING the BT out )

If i were you, i would'nt have compromised easy BT usage, constant crashing of system with a SW like blin.... just for cosmetic reasons, and the slight improvement in UI.

Consider unistalling it.
But ultimately..its your choice!!
:D :D


ahhh so some people experienced crash with this blinds also. i thought it's just me :D yeah i already thinks bout to uninstall this blind thingy but maybe later cos i want to reformat the laptop again and make it into two partitions :D and never install this blind thingy

but the UI bcomes good :D with this blinds :D :D :D

thx for the advice i highly appreciated it thx

Pichu.....try Style XP instead

XP sucks! Had it for a little while, but had to go back to ME cause XP just wouldn't accept anything(hardware or software). The stupid thing wouldn't even accept my network card. Stupid candy-looking OS!!

XP sucks and Me is good,wow,first one i've heard,advice,if you cant use XP,and u want to use winblows OS,use windows 2000,WinME is the worst thing that ever came out of microsofts bag of tricks.

Well, ME works just fine with me, XP doesn't.
Why exactly do you think ME is so bad?

I dont think that this is the right place to start a PC OS discussion,so i'll stop here :)

Raven, apparently u have missed all the good stuff about XP. Have u actually installed Service Pack 1? The first time XP rolled out it was buggy but now,.....it is very stable......compared to ME at least.

Sorry to say but ME is like the worst OS microsoft made. Some even say that it is windows 98 3rd Edition.......

Sorry Raven......just doesnt agree with your statement....."XP suck"

Dudes,this is a Symbian,Nokia 7650 forum,if you really want to discuss this here,do it in the Waffle :)

Hi,

I got this Bluetooth DSL thing working too(I think) with WebViewer, BUT the GPRS icon is showing all the time and I don't have to select access point everytime I want to browse a new site like some others here have mentioned. So now I'm wondering if I will get charged for GPRS using this connection??? Do I have change some other settings? Someone else experienced this??

PLEASE HELP ANYONE!

Thanks.

Hi,

I got this Bluetooth DSL thing working too(I think) with WebViewer, BUT the GPRS icon is showing all the time and I don't have to select access point everytime I want to browse a new site like some others here have mentioned. So now I'm wondering if I will get charged for GPRS using this connection??? Do I have change some other settings? Someone else experienced this??

PLEASE HELP ANYONE!

Thanks.

Hi Raven,

Go to...

Tools - Settings - Connection - GPRS - GPRS Connection
change to "Only when needed"

You'll see the G flash a bit, then disappear. The GPRS connection is not maintained. but the mRouter should flash and data will flow through that route.

Cheers

Andy

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your reply. I still get just the GPRS icon when I'm using WebViewer though... I just bought a bluetooth adapter today, and I've connected it to my 7650 successfully. The Mrouter thing is running on my PC and I get this icon on my phone; (*). I don't really know what this Mrouter icon on my phone is supposed to look like, and should it be where the GPRS icon is when I'm using WebViewer?

Thanks.

Raven
You will not see mRouter icon on phone. When u try to connect to net via Bluetooth, normal GPRS "G" flashes for a while, and then disappears. That location ( GPRS icon ) should be blank if it is connecting thru bluetooth. If u find [G], may be its connecting thru GPRS.

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your reply. I still get just the GPRS icon when I'm using WebViewer though... I just bought a bluetooth adapter today, and I've connected it to my 7650 successfully. The Mrouter thing is running on my PC and I get this icon on my phone; (*). I don't really know what this Mrouter icon on my phone is supposed to look like, and should it be where the GPRS icon is when I'm using WebViewer?

Thanks.

Okey dokey. I reckon that I might have had to re-boot the phone after I told it to connect "when needed". After that, when using webview I have to choose my "bluetooth" access point, the G appears, and flashes a bit, then disappears, and then the mrouter icon flashes (on the PC).

You don't get an mRouter icon on the phone, only on the PC. When mRouter is transfering data, you should see the mrouter tray icon turn into a little phone/computer and flash a bit.

My GPRS counter (in the logs section) hasnt increased since I've started to use the BlueTooth access point. So I'm guessing that I'm not incurring any charges. Still, I haven't had a bill come through yet!

Cheers

A.

Yes, the GPRS icon doesn't disappear when I'm connected through WebViewer and when I check my log, it records GPRS use... Strange... Maybe I haven't configured my Bluetooth connection properly....??

Yes, the GPRS icon doesn't disappear when I'm connected through WebViewer and when I check my log, it records GPRS use... Strange... Maybe I haven't configured my Bluetooth connection properly....??

Hmm. that doesn't sound good. Don't know what else to suggest, although it looks like PRLYago had the same problem. Wonder if he managed to sort it out...?

Sorry. :-(

Andy

Hmmm... The Mrouther icon (on my PC hehe) doesn't flash when I connect to WebViewer.... So I guess the problem probably lies in my bluetooth config.....? This is the first time ever I'm using BT so I feel kinda clueless to this thing... Any help is much appreciated!

Thanks alot.

Raven,
You better watchout for ur Bill. Wonder why the GPRS icon is still showing.
Just rechecking the basics.. what access point are u assigning to webviewer to access ur pc internet connection?

Hmmm... The Mrouther icon (on my PC hehe) doesn't flash when I connect to WebViewer.... So I guess the problem probably lies in my bluetooth config.....? This is the first time ever I'm using BT so I feel kinda clueless to this thing... Any help is much appreciated!

Thanks alot.

No, I reckon that its webviewer using the wrong AP, rather than your BT setup.

here's a thought. Go to :
Tools - settings - Apps
Highlight webviewer, hit Options -> Settings -> Default Access Point.
Set it to Bluetooth.
Then
Highlight webviewer, hit Options -> Settings -> Settings
Set those options to "bluetooth" and Network Connection "ask first"

Let us know if that helps!

Andy

The accesspoint that's discribed in this thread; Bluetooth DSL...

Hmmm... The Mrouther icon (on my PC hehe) doesn't flash when I connect to WebViewer.... So I guess the problem probably lies in my bluetooth config.....? This is the first time ever I'm using BT so I feel kinda clueless to this thing... Any help is much appreciated!

Thanks alot.

No, I reckon that its webviewer using the wrong AP, rather than your BT setup.

here's a thought. Go to :
Tools - settings - Apps
Highlight webviewer, hit Options -> Settings -> Default Access Point.
Set it to Bluetooth.
Then
Highlight webviewer, hit Options -> Settings -> Settings
Set those options to "bluetooth" and Network Connection "ask first"

Let us know if that helps!

Andy

Did'n work either still connected through GPRS.... :cry:
I think it lies in my blutooth connection... Doesn't seem to let me transfer files either....

Well Raven, i was just about to ask if ur other data transfers were going ok, particularly since u said urs was a new BT connection

Did u try to get the "Accept Other" thing? This may need new software and or change registry values.
Check this http://allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3075

I think its imperative to be able to effect all modes of data transfer for this to work

Goodluck

:D :D

Man I just cannot figure this BT thing out! When I turn on my PC I get this error; BTTray, - ERROR: Unable to start the bluetooth stack service...
Any ideas folks???

Thanks.

LOL

beware!! with that "BT stack up error" cos after i got this error msg all apps on my computer is crashing all the time and becos of this i reformat my HD and installed a fresh O/s

and also BEWARE with the Blue screen of the death :D :D :D

Man I just cannot figure this BT thing out! When I turn on my PC I get this error; BTTray, - ERROR: Unable to start the bluetooth stack service...
Any ideas folks???

Thanks.

Morning Raven,

Did you manage to get any further with it last night?

If not, there are a couple of things you can do with your bluetooth setup.
I'm guessing that your dongle came with either the Widcomm software, or the Blue Manager software. If you have one of these, they seem to be interchangeable. The latest versions of them are here:

widcomm:
http://www.tecomproduct.com/asp/support.asp?Navi=SoftwareDownload
take the BTW12216.ZIP file

XTNDConnect Blue Manager:
http://www.itgs.co.uk/acatalog/index.html?http%3A//www.itgs.co.uk/acatalog/Support.html&CatalogBody
Take Blue Manager v2.0

Before you update your bluetooth stack, I would remove PC suite. There is also a newer version of PC suite availble for download at the nokia site.

The Blue Manager software came with my dongle, I found it very unstable on winXP (it was fine on Win2K). It would crash, and then I would only be able to start it again after a reboot. I switched over to the widcomm stack, and have had no problems since.

I couldnt get PC suite to work with SP1 installed, but since I removed it, everything has worked fine.

If you have the widcomm stack, and cant send images from the phone to the PC, you need to change (or add) this key to the registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Widcomm\BTConfig\Servic es\0004\AcceptOther
set its value to 0x0000001

Hopefully something in there will get bluetooth running for you.

Goodluck

Andy

Hi Andy. I wanna thank you very much for your advices.
I changed the software to Tecom last night, and I've done the AcceptOther thing. I have a Billionton bluetooth USB adapter, btw. The only thing from your suggestions I haven't tried is uninstalling-installing PC-suite... Maybe I should?

Well, here is the situation; PC-suite works fine and I can send from phone, BUT I cannot send from windows it wont find my phone. And during pairing I got alot of errors (still get errors like BTtray closes from the taskbar and the startup error: unable to start the bluetooth stack service).So you can say that PC-suite works fine, windows don't.

But my main complaint is that I still cannot get this blutooth DSL connection thing working. Still connects tto GPRS....???

Any more suggestions please......?
Thanks a mill

Oh yeah, and I have winME..

Every time I try to create a new access point and select data bearer to GPRS and Gateway IP address to 0.0.0.0, the 7650 recognizes it as the GPRS INTERNET settings provided by my operator!!!
And my phone isn't locked or anything...

Maybe a master reset is the only way to fix this problem?????

Or does anyone know of another Gateway IP address this bluetooth connection would work with??

Please help ppl, this is driving me crazy!!!!!

Thanks.

Hi Andy. I wanna thank you very much for your advices.
I changed the software to Tecom last night, and I've done the AcceptOther thing. I have a Billionton bluetooth USB adapter, btw. The only thing from your suggestions I haven't tried is uninstalling-installing PC-suite... Maybe I should?

Well, here is the situation; PC-suite works fine and I can send from phone, BUT I cannot send from windows it wont find my phone. And during pairing I got alot of errors (still get errors like BTtray closes from the taskbar and the startup error: unable to start the bluetooth stack service).So you can say that PC-suite works fine, windows don't.

But my main complaint is that I still cannot get this blutooth DSL connection thing working. Still connects tto GPRS....???

Any more suggestions please......?
Thanks a mill

Hi Raven,

You are having a nightmare.

I think there are two issues here.
1. Not being able to send images etc to phone from pc
2. being unable to setup a dummy GPRS access point.

For 1, how are you trying to send? right click send-to -> Bluetooth ->Other device -> search -> no device found? That is what happens to me.

Try this: My Bluetooth Places -> Entire Bluetooth Neighborhood -> Your Phone (hopefully it is paired) -> Inbox
you should see a business card in there. Now, just drag and drop the file that you want to send to your phone, into the inbox folder.

For 2, (i've just spotted your post on GPRS gateway) I would try changing the gateway to an invalid IP address on your operators network. Try setting it to 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.1, that may make the gprs connection fail (which is what we want)

Remember to have the GPRS setting so that it only connects "When Needed" , that way you should see the G flash a bit, and then disappear.

Good luck mate!

Andy

Hi Andy,

I've sorted out #1 when I got rid of the Widcom software and installed Blue manager 2.0.

#2 is still a problem. My phone won't accept a dummy access point!!?? I've tried changing my IP to what you suggested, but the WebViewer closes right after I've selected access point and I get an error.

I'm about to give up on this thing now, but maybe I'll try a master reset first...? Do you think that would let me have a dummy access point???

Hi Andy,

I've sorted out #1 when I got rid of the Widcom software and installed Blue manager 2.0.

#2 is still a problem. My phone won't accept a dummy access point!!?? I've tried changing my IP to what you suggested, but the WebViewer closes right after I've selected access point and I get an error.

I'm about to give up on this thing now, but maybe I'll try a master reset first...? Do you think that would let me have a dummy access point???

Hi,

Well, I'm certainly running out of ideas. I guess a reset is worth a try. Once you've done it, just setup your dummy access point, and install webviewer. Then, I guess we'll find out.

By the way, is it just webviewer that is a problem? can you use wirelessIRC (set access point to "none") or IM+ through bluetooth?

A.

Ok, I did the hard reset thing.....-STILL CONNECTS TO GPRS!??! :x :roll:

I officially throw in the towel now. I give up...

Thanks for all your help though!

A good news: the bluetooth connection with PC suite...
WORK ALSO FOR P800!!!
Yes, you can connect the P800 to mRouter, and use it to surf the net, to connect with your preferred instant messaging (TipicME of course ;-)), etc.

Gino

If you're using the trick with blank GPRS settings to connect to share a broadband connection over mrouter, you must go into Connect and activate your connection to mrouter by clicking bluetooth or infrared, just as you do when you want to sync with pc suite.

HEY! It actually worked! :D :D I configured it successfully to get my mails!!
1 question though, can i get my hotmail account mails? :roll:

(searched through the forum couldn't find anything about this, sorry if there is)

You can access and read hotmail on wap at http://mobile.msn.com
You will however not be able to download attachments. Hotmail on webviewer is not possible. Also, Hotmail does not support Pop

I think for those for whom the blank APN name in the Access point configuration doesn't work it might be the operator's setup.

I find on Vodafone NZ that if I don't specify an APN name it just seems to connect me anyway to their default non-wap Internet one. Unfortunately this stops me utilising the "go through bluetooth if no APN trick".

I'm pretty certain this is the cause of failure because one day when GPRS was down I was able to get it to bind to the bluetooth thing and use it that way. Damn shame really.

UPDATE I GOT IT TO WORK: I've had exactly the same problem as several in this forum where it will connect to GPRS even if the APN is left blank. What I just did was update my Bluetooth Access Point configuration to use a made up APN name like "ahjdjkewr". Damn me if it didn't just flash then webviewer started just fine through my bluetooth connection

Obviously blank name equals "OK use default" but junk name is rejected. Sweet.

Just posting to keep topic current [along with bemused this is one of the best 7650 thingies]

gordon.k, my friend YOU ARE A LEGEND!!

I too live in NZ and have been trying for ever to get it to work. Your APN trick works a treat!

Cheers

Can I use Wap using this method ? What are the settings ?

anyone ?

HI! all...

i am very worry about all of you guys...

i don't know why it's so hard for you to use the Bluetooth right...

in every aspect...

i configured and make it all that 7650 can do with Bluetooth my very
first time i buy it and installed... no problem at all...

My be i was just lucky guy ... :D

Anyway... i found an important thing about the ACCESS POINT...

My operator don't have Internet Access Point yet... but...

To make an INTERNET ACCESS POINT thru the PC connection to internet, the real default point that everybody mention on this forum is not right!...

Simply puting a name like "bluetooth DSL" to one access point you are doing nothing... that not make any diference to the 7650, that don't tell nothing about to connect to PC ...

The real way to tell what ACCESS POINT the 7650 you want to use by a default Internet Access Point if the GPRS don't work is here....

SETTINGS / CONNECTION / GPRS / ... Access Point = PC (for example)

That is the real thing that tell to the 7650 that "PC" access point will be used for internet connection when GPRS don't work ... NOT THE NAME of the ACCESS POINT ...

Of course remember to create an access point like with any name (i puted PC), with:

name: any
Data bearer: GPRS
Access Point name: same that above (any)
User name: none
prompt passwd: no
Authentication: Normal
Gateway IP: 0.0.0.0

Well that's it...

By this way i can use Webviewer, send and recieve email, etc.. simply
using my PC conecction for all that apps...

I don't know because i don't have it, but may be if you simply use on webviewer this PC connection, even if you have the GPRS Internet Connection Service, that connection will be passed, and may be 7650 use the PC connection priority.

Just try...

Hope this help all you guys..

I am happy with my 7650, with my perfect bluetooth connection and
everything else that concern to my 7650 feactures, that's why i don't understand and i am worry about why there are many customers talking bad thing about 7650.

Remember the first rule of computers makers...
"if something goes wrong or don't work like you want, human error (user)is the answer most of the times" (almost %90)...

Simply it's a very new tecnology, but we need to learn the basics to use it before start to talking bad thing about products.

cya all! :D

Alejandro

Anybody ?.. lol.. no body saw my idea :o :cry: ;)

HI! all...


I am happy with my 7650, with my perfect bluetooth connection and
everything else that concern to my 7650 feactures, that's why i don't understand and i am worry about why there are many customers talking bad thing about 7650.


cya all! :D

Alejandro

I like my 7650 too. But my Bluetooth crashed 3 times. NSC didn't replace my phone, they just flashed new versions every time.
How can I trust that phone now. Imagine your phone stucks suddenly and this happens every month. you would be very dissapointed.
:x

*bumb*ed for Urpo :D

Thanks ;)

Voivitunvitunvittujenkevätsaatana :evil: !!!!!!!! JyriK can translate if anyone wants... :evil:
I can't get it work!!! Probably anyone except if someone makes somekind of proxy-program to my BT-dongle drivers... The problem is that I have so idiotic internet-connection on my computer. The proxy-settings must have in every program which wants to connect to the net... I live in "student community" (or something) and the net-provider has eliminated "couple" of ports (because of wareting) so everything goes through proxy.

:D :D Sorry to hear that.
And for that translation:
Oh******************spring******* :D

Voivitunvitunvittujenkevätsaatana :evil: !!!!!!!! JyriK can translate if anyone wants... :evil:
I can't get it work!!! Probably anyone except if someone makes somekind of proxy-program to my BT-dongle drivers... The problem is that I have so idiotic internet-connection on my computer. The proxy-settings must have in every program which wants to connect to the net... I live in "student community" (or something) and the net-provider has eliminated "couple" of ports (because of wareting) so everything goes through proxy.

This will probably not work,but why not give it a try
Do you know the proxy ip adress? Try seting the proxy ip adress as Gatway on the phone or set the ip adress of your PC as gateway on the phone.

This will probably not work,but why not give it a try
Do you know the proxy ip adress? Try seting the proxy ip adress as Gatway on the phone or set the ip adress of your PC as gateway on the phone.

Good idea but I dont know the ip adress... And you can't set port in 7650.

Linux or Windows,use netstat to find the ip adress.

Linux or Windows,use netstat to find the ip adress.
(Win) No help... Only proxy whit letters. It's different than what is defined to IE proxy-settings, but not much:
cache.***.********.**
=>
cache-b.***.********.**

I really cant think of too that resolves names in windows but regular ping should do,just ping the proxy.
Another silly idea,if the previus mentioned does not work try seting up some simple firewall that will forward all packets sent to your PC to the proxy,it is a security risk but it might work.
One more thing,do you have Gateway ip adress assigned on your PC?

:oops: Yes I solved the ip but doesn't work... And yes I have gateway and I've tested it but doesn't work either...
I have couple other IP's but I dont know what they do in practice:
MASK
DNS1
DNS2
DNS3

Honestly I have no idea how to make "simply firewall"??
I have WinXP SP1, Norton Internet Security 2003 (and yes I have given all rights to use of the net for mrouter and other bt-soft).

I dont know much about WinXP because i dont use it.
What is the Gateway ip adress,is it the same with the ip adress of the proxy?
Got to go now,i will let you know if i think of anything else.

Yes they're different... THANKS to you. I appreciate your help HIGHLY! Tough the problem didn't solve..

Yes they're different... THANKS to you. I appreciate your help HIGHLY! Tough the problem didn't solve..

I was playing with the bluetooth drivers because i was unable to send files from phone to PC (the registry fix does not work because there is no AcceptOther key,creating manually does not work),so i downloaded the latest bluetoot drivers from MSI (1.2.2.15) and the connection sharing does not work with them,at least for me but it does work with the original cd drivers (1.2.2.4)
Proxy seting might not be a reason for your problem.
What version of the drivers are you using?

I have 1.2.something. Regfix worked on me. Everything works between 7650 &lt;-> PC, but not using PC's internet connection with phone.

I have tested it. Every program which dont have "use proxy"-settings will not able to connect to the net. Actually I only can surf in the net.
For example if I try use some program and I'm not typed proxy into the settings -> it will not connect. And if I put proxy it will.

Well,cant think of anything else,sorry,future updates od internet related apps will include proxy support. :)

Yep hope so! ;)
Thanks for your help!!! :D

*bump*

Bump?

*bump* as in pushing this thread back to page1 from page9 :D
because a few questions about this, again.

Oh now I see!!!

Bob

*bump*

I'm getting very sea sick with all these bumps :P

B :D

:D yeah, maybe should post this as sticky again...

Ok here's a silly question.

Must you have GPRS to use this?

I've done everything as directed, but can't get Webviewer to work. I don't have GPRS though, but have full use of BT. I also access email via GSM connection.

do i get a prize for starting this thread?

do i get a prize for starting this thread?

Only if you answer my question :D :D :D

do i get a prize for starting this thread?

Only if you answer my question :D :D :D

Sorry forgot to login

Ok, I've got it working

So you don't need GPRS

The trick is to enter the same name for Access point name in GPRS connection as the name of your computer connection in BT - Paired devices. That is in Tools - Connection Settings - GPRS and in the Access point you define. It didn't work for a setting of none for me.

Tried this last night and got it working in about 5 minutes, but...

I keep getting Doris telling me "Connection required" and I have to press Yes. This can happen 3 or 4 times per page.

It's not the end of the world, but is there any way around it?
BTW I'm running Doris 1.10

Tried this last night and got it working in about 5 minutes, but...

Well done.

I keep getting Doris telling me "Connection required" and I have to press Yes. This can happen 3 or 4 times per page.

No way around this I'm Afraid

It's not the end of the world, but is there any way around it? BTW I'm running Doris 1.10

You must try Doris 1.15 Much faster.

Cheers Doc

Does anyone know if the same effect (having to say "Yes" to reconnect) is in WebViewer?

Once on every page!

Webviewer doesn't go with me. The m-router change 5 or 6 seconds then return normal and nothing comes.
At the end, Wevviewer gives the error message "Status = -20019".

Help ?

hi guys!


how come i can't seem to save the new access point i configured for my BT?

got it! :) worked very well with TIPICME ;)

which web browser is good?

f1gpshop,you can use both webviewer and Doris browser for a free evaluation period and decide for yourself.Reqwireless offers a free 5-day trial period of webviewer,which is available for download to your phone via wap,from their wap site(www.reqwireless.com/wap),or you can download it to your p.c from handango.Doris browser is available for download to your p.c from www.anygraaf.fi( the software company's site)or www.softwaremarket.nokia.com.The trial period of the doris browser is unlimited but there is a three-minute limit per session.For more info:www.reqwireless.com and www.anygraaf.fi.

Thank you so much for the detailed info!

Will check out those web browser you mentioned!! :) :)

Does anyone know if the Broadband headset works with the Nokia 7650?

hi! what must i do to use my mac as router for my 7650? (bt works great)

cya scops

nice to see a thread i started doing so well !

i know this is a symbian forum, but would anyone know if this would work with an SE T68i? as i plan to use this for my house (i have a 3650) but my flat mate has a T68i, and would like to be able to access our cable modem as well.

*cough*

bump

someone was asking about this again

Tried everything in this thread... but it does not work.

Nokia 3650 (like 7650)
v2.54 firmware
AT &amp; T Wireless

Mac OS X 10.2.6

Error GPRS access point not valid...

Some applications see the new access point in menus, but many applications do not. Is this AT&amp;T system or software preventing use of other networks?

How must the computer be configured for bluetooth internet access?

I think the phone was configured correctly for sure(?).
but maybe something missing on the computer side.

Even if you have Windows, if you give general internet instructions for requirements, I can make the settings on the Mac.


Firewall settings?
port 3004 open.
also tried with both ports 3000-3004 open and 0.0.0.0 open

What else can be wrong?




thanks...

Your problem is the MAC OS X,i don't think there is an mrouter like app for OS X.

No mRouter

There is a Bluetooth serial utility

Incoming and outgoing bluetooth connections can be created.

Modem or RS-232 ports are created.

The incoming connection is generalized, the outgoing connection must be specified from this list:
Fax
Bluetooth Seiral Port
OBEX Object Push
Dial-up Networking
Handsfree Audio Gateway
OBEX File Transfer

I tried:

Outgoing: RS-232/Bluetooth Serial Port plus Incoming RS-232

and

Outgoing: RS-232/Dial-up Networking plus Incoming RS-232

without success



MRouter, you say...

It is possible using Mac OS 9 and Virtual PC, running Windows on Mac...

Yes,mRouter.It is the app that makes internet sharing between the phone and the PC possible.Wont work without it.Using some Virtual PC app might do the trick,i'm not really familiar with OS X but when i needed some Windows feature under Linux,VMware and Win4Lin worked great.

thanks

what exactly is MRouter?

I have run it successfully, but just a little confused on the technology.

Yes,the app is called mRouter,i think it comes with the PC Suite package or the BT drivers,not sure :oops: But its definitely called mRouter.

Yes, it is mRouter, and it is working OK.

What is it, and what does it do?

I think its a software router,you know,packet forwarding.You got it to work and internet sharing is still not working?

thanks

It worked OK for PC suite.

have not yet tried internet with it... will be able to try it again later on, though.

Ok I am running a widcomm 1.2.2.16 stack from widcomm and the dongle is a BT3030 one, I have done all the tweaks that get the 7650 to access a a web site that is on my pc and it works fine except for some lil things Im bothered with :

I have this dummy GPRS access and the correct port ticked in mRouter but my problem is that for the phone to access the net, I need to first establish the serial connection from within the widcomm bluetooth interface, I click on the nokia's serial port and then connect it and the phone asks if I wanna accept the conn, then only after that does mrouter's icon change.

What I would like to do is to be able to estabkish the connection from the phone, that is to say, each time the web browser needs to make an access, the serial link is establishedk, how come I need to activate it from the PC first ??

thx in advance.

Just a question: can I use ANY BT usb dongle, as long as it is BT v1.1 compatible? (Im looking to Gigabyte usbdongle for €35), I have adsl and I'd like to use it on 7650! :D

Another question: does mRouter comes with Nokia PC Suite or BT drivers? If drivers, I hope gigabyte brings it with it (can I download it otherwise somewhere??)

At least, it is if you have iSync installed, and if you have a Bluetooth phone, you probably do. Here's the path:

/System/Library/SyncServices/SymbianConduit.Bundle/Contents/Resources/mRouter

There are several threads on other forums I've been following, but so far mRouter seems to be a bust on the Mac. I can connect via straight IP addressing, but DNS names don't resolve. Here are a few other threads:

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030616191119129

http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?128@32.fWEhamLwdSl.0@.3bbfa8fe

http://www.technohappymeal.com/archives/000070.html

As near as I can tell, mRouter isn't passing DNS queries up the line, though I could actually be wrong about that. My packet sniffing abilities are a bit limited...

That last link there does list an alternate to mRouter, but so far I have the same issue with DNS as mRouter. Talk about frustrating... I'm about ready to offer my old iMac to anyone that can give me a solution that I can make work under OS X. ;)

Does anyone think that there may be a way around the fact that Oplayo and Real cant use the Broadband connection through PC..

I mean I have tried opening a connection through another program but this doesnt seem to work

Come on People we need this breakthrough - we need to get it to work it would be such a great feat!

P

Hey all,

Just a little question..

Does this trick also works with the N-gage phone?

I know it's almost the same as the 7650 but maybe it won't work with N-gage?

I haven't got a BT adapter yet, but i want to be sure if it works before i buy one..

It should work.I haven't tested it yet but i'm pretty confident it will.It had worked for every Symbian device so far.