This thread ideally will answer your questions on how to get started with Symbian C++ programming.

Firstly, get the 'Series 60' Symbian C++ SDK from http://forum.nokia.com (you will need to register on the site). The download is around 128MB so be warned. I had it downloaded by my friend (cable) and burnt onto CD.

Next thing to do is to install this on your PC, if you wish to use the Visual C++ IDE or the emulator then you should have VC6 installed. (You can compile for 'the phone alone' with the command line without VC6).

This install will also install a Java Runtime environment (1.3 I Think). It will also install ActivePerl for running some compile scripts etc. It will also install a so called 'emulator' for the N7650.

Take a look at the documentation available, especially the segments regarding getting started etc.. If you are new to Object Oriented Programming (or need to brush up) there is a good section on getting your basics right.

I will soon post a small write up on getting up to the helloworld application. Though if your fingers are twitching you might try the examples included.
Please be patient.

--- Edited
The first version of a miniguide to getting started is now available in text form below.

If you have any problems 'getting started', please post under the following thread (just trying to keep things organised, so that when people come in they have an idea of where to go, hope you all help out in that regard)

http://www.allabouter6.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3308

-----Edited
The first revision (1.1) of a miniguide is now available, it has updated sections on compiling for the phone as well as a clarification on using VC6.


Revised.
1. Added info on emulator.
2. Added clarification on VC6.
3. Added clarification for 'Series 60' SDK. This is the one I am using.

Revised.
1. Added Miniguide.
2. Added link to 'Problems getting started'.

Revised.
1. Corrected statement on VC6 requirement.
2. Uploaded revision 1.1. Will keep revision 1 until rev 1.2 or more comes along. :-)
Rev 1.1, adds section on compiling for the phone and sis file creation.

----- Edited

TIP!!: You can run the script 'Series60\Epoc32\Data\change_7650_skin.pl' to make the emulator look like 7650 (recommended only for 1028x768 screens though)

----- Edited 12 Nov 2002
Reposted the Miniguide rev 1.1 since it was unavailable after the host change.. (I know it has been a few weeks since, but I was moving to Sydney :-) )
----- Edited 1 Mar 2003
Reposted the Miniguide after complaints that it wasnt available. Sorry for the delay.

Hi

This sounds good, I am keen to have a go at some C++ programming for my 7650 :D

what exactly does the Visual C++ IDE do? Do i really need to have VC6 installed? Or can I still write games with just the Symbian C++ SDK?

Is there am emulator included in the SDK, I dont want to have to install everything I write to the phone to test :cry:

Stu

Good Questions and here are the replies.

The Visual C++ IDE is just an option, it is good if you have it, if you dont you can still compile from the command line (or probably even setup some other IDE to compile for you). The entire compile process is handled by 'perl scripts' and 'nmake'.

And yes an emulator is included with the SDK, this is essentially a 'simulator' since it runs x86 compiled code instead of emulating the ARM instructions. :-(. But it works enough for simple programs to be tested out. I cant vouch for games and others (I have heard comments that it is not so good then, but then again, I have found it good to use).

The only problem being that it just crashes if there is a problem (like null pointer access etc) hence the debugging is a bit difficult. But I havent really setup debugging etc (It is supposed to support 'gdb').

Come on and jump onto the bandwagon... (First download the 128MB file) ;-)

Ok, grabbin it now, wont take long on my cable modem :D

hurry up with that hello world tutorial ;)

Well If you dont want to download the 128mb file you can have it sent to your address! I did and got a nice CD with nice packaging etc. I downloaded the file as well since I ahve ADSL but its nice to have an original from nokia free of charge! :)

Well my problems were, after installing everything + vc6 + service packs I got to the point that I tried compiling HelloWorld.
But then I alway got a error in vc6; helloworld.exp (think it was that file) not found.

I gave up, tried a few times reinstalling ...
I might consider returning to c++ if somebody could help me ...

Dazler,

I actually typed out that miniguide on a reply and posted it and voila.. IE crashed. So just finished my breakfast and retyped the whole and posted it back as an edit of the first post.

Go ahead try it and let me know what happens.. Just started a new thread for people having problems getting started with this..

Ta.

How about P800.
I got not enough money to purchase Code Warrior :cry:

As far as I know, the P800 is based on Symbian's SDK V7... based on UIQ (User Interface Q??). I am not an expert on this, but feel free to discuss this too. Maybe someone will help you out. I will see if I can get some info too.. Meanwhile why dont you check out the P800 forum.. (ignore all those people wincing about the P800 release).. ;-)

Dazler,

I actually typed out that miniguide on a reply and posted it and voila.. IE crashed. So just finished my breakfast and retyped the whole and posted it back as an edit of the first post.

Go ahead try it and let me know what happens.. Just started a new thread for people having problems getting started with this..

Ta.
Thx !! No I jsut have to find the courage to install vc6 again ;)

Hi guys,

just updated the mini guide, I know you are all screaming for the full fledged Guide, please bear with me.

Regards
Karthik

Nice! That was all I wanted to know! Had trouble compiling for the phone! Now I know! Two apps coming soon :D

How are you progressing malebuffy ??

As for me, I have had nightmares with listboxes :-). Sorry guys, but the guide should be coming along soon, cant promise much now.. But soon like 1 week I guess.

Thanks

I am currently integrating Camera Timer to remote Camera to make it One app instead of two! I am realy looking forward to the Series 60 book, becasue the documentation of the SDK SUCKZ!!!!! :D Everything I do is experimental! :D

When is the book coming out?

28 October I think!

nice!

where can I buy it?
I cant find any information about the book on symbian.com

www.amazon.com
www.amazon.co.uk

look for "Series 60"

hi guys,

just added a tip in the original post to make the emulator look like the 7650 .

The miniguide post does not exist,or is it just me?

T'was an attachment I think. I'm sure it'll be added back soon, if not I'll find it.

All attachments are missing because the server change operation yesterday.
I think they will be back soon...

I wasn't able to port old attachement across I'm afraid. People will have to start again.

Rafe

I can retrieve the file but rather than dump 'em all across I'll get those people want.

Hello People,

Just got to Sydney... And I have reposted the miniguide ... sorry for the delay.

Compiled my project in VC6 and it works just fine in the emulator. It is based on the bmpmanip-example. And when I try to make it with "abld build armi urel" it doesnt work. I get a lot of errors.

nmake -nologo -f "\Symbian\6.1\Series60\EPOC32\BUILD\SYMBIAN\6.1\SER IES60\SERIES60EX\BMPMANIP\GROUP\EXPORT.make" EXPORT VERBOSE=-s
Nothing to do

and then the list goes on for about 1000 lines

What have I done wrong would be nice to test on my phone (7650)?

To build for the 7650 you need to type "abld build thumb urel" :)

To build for the 7650 you need to type "abld build thumb urel" :)

Tried that and it still gives a looooong list of errors complainig about e32std.h and other things ??

This is no fun at all !!

Mack can you verify that your environment variables are set right ?? esp check if you have run vcvars32.bat ( :-D )..

Also first check if the compile for the wins works fine. 'abld build wins udeb'

I uninstalled everything and installed it from the CD instead of the zip file and everything works allright now :)

Donno what the problem was !

Can your repost the Miniguide please, cause I get a message: file doesn't exist. Thanks Taeke

I have a couple of questions.
I'm a small time programer,done some pascal and C,i need a sugestion from you guys on what literature to obtain in order to learn C++ programing for the Symbian OS,cosidering the fact that i dont have a clue about C++ and object oriented programing.
Thank you.

Wll Sams teach yourslef C++ would be a good start. In order to code for Symbian you have to learn C++ which is basicaly Object Orientation etc.
Then after some months or so try to experiment with Symbian. You can buy the book about Series 60. It will be a great starting point. And I forgot the most important, practice, practice practice! :D

Thank you very much! :D

Could you please load your guide up again ? I get a file not found error

Thans in advance

Max odendahl

Asked for reposting the guide too, but no response. Even no response on a PM to talk2sk and there's still no download... Maybe someone else can post it?

i will get into it!

the miniguide doesn't exist, as others already noted.

Sorry for the delay, but the miniguide is now available, had to dig it out of some old backups.

hello talk2sk,the ling of magnititude was not working,giving 404 Error:

-i have just downloaded symbian v7 sdk, and I am planning to use it with VC++ ver 6
i have read symbian documentation link ,particularly this link

http://www.symbian.com/developer/techlib/v70docs/SDL_v7.0/doc_source/DevGuides/HandsOnCpp.html#OSGuide%2eHandsOnCpp


regarding c++ development,since they didnt show the actually Hello World program so don`t know about coding structure but i want to know that how UID is assigned in mmp file?
can any of you give a sime Hello world example (from writing code to building and installation of application)..

-Second thing that i want to ask that is there any good book for Beginners
specially for V7?

thanks in advance
it would be very helpful

hello talk2sk,the ling of magnititude was not working,giving 404 Error:

-i have just downloaded symbian v7 sdk, and I am planning to use it with VC++ ver 6
i have read symbian documentation link ,particularly this link

http://www.symbian.com/developer/techlib/v70docs/SDL_v7.0/doc_source/DevGuides/HandsOnCpp.html#OSGuide%2eHandsOnCpp


regarding c++ development,since they didnt show the actually Hello World program so don`t know about coding structure but i want to know that how UID is assigned in mmp file?
can any of you give a sime Hello world example (from writing code to building and installation of application)..

-Second thing that i want to ask that is there any good book for Beginners
specially for V7?

thanks in advance
it would be very helpful

i also have the same problem, hoping for help out there..... :-?

Hi,

Can I use the 'Series 60' Symbian C++ SDK [from http://forum.nokia.com] for Nokia 3650 too ?

- Sunny

Hi,

Can I use the 'Series 60' Symbian C++ SDK [from http://forum.nokia.com] for Nokia 3650 too ?

- Sunny

Sorry for the dump post... I got my answer

[QUOTE=talk2sk]... based on UIQ (User Interface Q??). ...QUOTE]

Did you find out what the Q in <UIQ> stands for? Cheers.

User Interface for Quartz (Quartz being a pen-based "reference" UI design by Symbian).

Is it just me, or is there no guide?! Can't find a link or attachment :S

what should i do to make my mobile communicate with x86 emulator with symbian os. i need to exchage information between the two. this needs to be over the air.

please help

I bought Borland C++ BuilderX Mobile and installed it today, dedicated and eager to get HelloWorld out of my P900.

I downloaded the UIQ 2.1 SDK from Symbian and tried to install it on my Windows XP system.

The SDK installer warned me that the SDK is not supported on XP. I decided to ignore that warning and tried to install the SDK anyways, and of course, the installation failed.
The SDK installs Java Runtime 1.3.1 and PERL. Then the install programs hangs on the message "Package source package list file cannot currently be accessed".

So the questions are: do I really have to downgrade my computer to Windows 2000 to make the SDK run? Are all Windows Symbian C++ developers running Windows 2000? Is there anyone out there that has succesfully installed the SDK on XP and wishes to share that secret with us?


Koen

Hi,

I cannot seem to find the miniguide. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
ZeBadger

Hello,

I can not find the miniguide....

Any help?

Thanks in advance.

http://www.allabouter6.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3308

any mirror for this file?

link is not working. thanks in advance mates

we have to buy u guys ?????????????????/
does anyone have crack

Hi,
I'm a newbie to Symbian development and started with downloading and installing 'Series 60 SDK 2.1' for Visual Studio .NET from Nokia forum.

While converting a sample project (HelloGUI (http://www.symbian.com/books/scmp/scmp_source/HelloGUIfull.zip) ) i am getting errors that the following files could not be found:-
<QIKDOCUMENT.H> <QIKAPPLICATION.H> <QIKAPPUI.H>

Are these files from UIQ SDK? aren't they installed with Series 60 SDK? Which other SDKs are required with Series 60 SDK.

I'm developing and testing using my NOKIA 6600.

regards,

Neeraj

If I try to get the miniguide I get:

phpBB : Critical Error

Could not connect to the database

I am having some serious problems with trying to get the HelloWorld application successfully compiled. I am using Metrowerk's CodeWarrior. Here is what I do:

1. File/Import from mmp
2. Set Target to ARMI.
3. Compile.

Now, I only get a .APP file, nothing else, when I compile. When I've transfered the file over to the phone (in the correct folder) it won't work, so I am guessing I'll need the .RSC and .INI files mentioned in the documentation, but which I never get when I compile.

What can be wrong?

I am using CodeWarrior for Symbian OS, the UIQ 7.0 SDK, and have a Motorola A920 phone (with A925 firmware).

There are lots of different versions of that SDK but I found one and you can even put the components visually with an interface of BorlandX sth like that.

But when I compile, no errors, it succeeds, emulator starts but there's nothing realted to my program. Not even in the folders..?

I can convert simple files to Visual Studio files now.
I have the latest version of Visual Studio and just tried helloworldbasic application.
It opens perfectly, I don't change anything but it gives error messages, emulator starts but because of the errors the application isn't listed there.

Same in Borland's mobile one, what should I do?

Im a newbie! Um... How can I edit an app? Which tools should I use?

Sorry if this is a bad question! T_T

If I try to get the miniguide I get:

phpBB : Critical Error

Could not connect to the database


i got e same problem too :(
Anyone can help?

I am a newbie. I would like to start writing applications, however I ge tconfused when I go to the nokia website. There are lots of SDKs, I do not know which one to download. I have XP on my computer, I read that some SDKs are not compatible with Windows XP. Please help. What should I download and install exactly to be able to write an application and run it on my Nokia 6600?

For C++ development, first decide which IDE (Integrated Development Environment) you want to use: CodeWarrior, Borland C++ Builder/BuilderX or Microsoft Visual Studio.

You can also develop without an IDE, but then you can only use command line tools and can't use the PC based emulator, but must always compile for the device and debug without asy source code debugging.

If you have a 6600, use SDKs for Series 60 2nd Edition or 2.0. Without any "Feature Packs".

Also, buy a book such as this one to get up to speed faster: http://forum.nokia.com/main/1,6566,40_2,00.html

Thank you N/A. I think I will install Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0.
here is what I did before:
I installed Series 60 2nd Edition SDK FP 2, MIDP 1.0 (for java) and 1.0 (for C++)...
Both of them include the emulator. My java runtime env. is jre-1_5_0_02-windows-i586-p.
I think I will not go for java, I will go for C++ instead. But having the jre doesn't hurt right?
Now all I need is to install Microsoft Visual Studio. Then what would the next step?
Thank you so much....

Before installing visual studio I wanted to read the hlep file of the "Series 60 2nd Edition SDK for Symbian OS Supporting Feature Pack 2 For C++ Supporting Microsoft Visual C++ and Borland C++BuilderX: Getting Started Guide" (long name :) huh? ).

I am stuck at the very beginning :( ...

it tells me tow write "devices" on my command prompt (in order to determine what my default SDK is), however when I type it i get the following message:

'perl' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Ok, I thought I neede perl interpreter. I went to perl.com and downloaded perl.5.8.6 (stable version)... but it still gives me the same error...please help :confused: ...

i also get the same eeror when I do the following:
"Open the command line window and enter to the following folder: <SDK_installation_directory>\Series60Ex\helloworldbasic\group\
Enter following command:
makmake helloworldbasic.mmp vc7

(This will create the Visual C++ project files in the \helloworldbasic\group\ subdirectory.) ...but it gives me the 'perl' error!!!

Is Perl installed properly (with the Perl bin directory in the PATH so that it can be located)? What does the command perl -v say?

hmm, I think it is not. In which Path should I install the perl bin directory? "perl -v" command gives the same error. Should I uninstall and reinstall the perl or can I do path setting without un/re-install?

Just add the Perl bin directory (where ever you installed it) to the PATH environment variable (Control Panel > System > Advanced > Environment variables).

Thanks to N/A for his/her help. I installed activeperl and it works fine...
However i still couldnt manage to get down to the helloworld application...

hello friends
i m trying to develop symbian applicaitons using vc++ i ve downloaded the symbian sdk too but c++ fails to add workspace can anybody help me in that?
i m using windows xp and in getting started it has been written that supported platforms are win nt 4 and windows 2000 so is it the os version conflict?

Using Windows XP is OK. What version of Visual C++ do you have and which SDK version did you download?

Dear brother

I want to programming mobile by vbmobile but I didn't find any one help me to understand me how this prgram do .

Sooooooooooooooo

I want from you to help me as soon as
I want to do blocking for any one who I don't like him and my mobile will appear as busy

I want this program as soon as
at 20/4/2005

please help me now

I need your help now

First of all, this thread topic is "Getting Started with Symbian C++"...

Then, I'm pretty sure that you can't both learn MobileVB and create such an app in 9 days.

In addition, I doubt you can do that level of programming with MobileVB in the first place. For low-level functionality access, you must use C++.

It might be best if you just go to the shop (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/shop/) and buy BlackList or BlackLister, instead (assuming you have a phone supported by them, in which case you may need a new phone, too).

Anyway, for MobileVB stuff, start looking on http://www.appforge.com/

Thank u brother
but I want programming this program by c++ or mobilevb (by c++ ) because our teacher asked me to do this and search about its function by c++ ( I study c++ )

I really sad :redface: because you say I cannot do this but

I must do it and I have 3 friends also with me to programming mobile and they will studies with me soooooooooooooooooooooooooo help me

I'll try to understand much info :) .

please help me

The "VB" in MobileVB means "Visual Basic", which is a Microsoft programming language quite different from C++. With AppForge Crossfire (formerly MobileVB) tools some applications written in Visual Basic can be made for Symbian operating system (OS) based phones.

But, to do what you are trying to do, you must use C++.

If you are unfamiliar with C++ on Symbian based devices, it will take you a couple of months (at least) to get up to speed, if you already know programming and the C++ language.

If you don't, it will take longer, because you also have to learn to program and a programming language; one has to learn to walk before one can run. ;)

For C++ development information, start with tools and info on http://forum.nokia.com and http://www.symbian.com/developer

I'm afraid, however, that from your description it seems that with the time remaining and the lack of skills, your mission is not likely to succeed (at least not by April 20th this year, but maybe 2006). Sorry.

Hi Dear

if you already know programming and the C++ language.
yes I know c++ language but not all about this language

I will try to learn more and more

our teacher expanded the time to 20/5/2005

soooooo
can i study this
I think that I must know only the commands for programming language to block number phone , I don't think that I must know all the commands
are you agree with me

I happy from you because you tell me the truth

thank u very very much

but i'll ask u
can I do this program in this time 25 dayes


please reply as soon as

Buy this book (it will get you up to speed faster): http://www.emccsoft.com/technology/series60.html

In any case, to do what you want to do, you will in all likelihood have to resort to using undocumented APIs (Application Programming Interfaces). Since they are undocumented, discovering them and making use of them on your own is not easy for someone not familiar with the tools and techniques available and with little experience.

I think you should consider doing a program with a less difficult/ambitious goal first (one that depends only on documented APIs and perhaps solves a well-known problem for which there is easy to find examples; a simple game, a dictionary app, or something).

Once you know how to do that type of programs, you can "graduate" to more challenging/difficult things. As I said earlier: you can't run, until you learn to walk first.

OK - I'm starting to get amazingly confused here:

Do I need visual Studio .NET or will standard Visual C++ do?

What SDKs do I need - there seems to be a billion and one...

Do I really have to splash £500 for CodeWarrior - I'm just one home user looking to play around with programming, I'm not a massive developer.

If someone could do a list of what's needed (try to avoid acronyms if possible)...

Can't avoid acronyms entirely, but here's a "decision tree" for Nokia phones:

Do you want to develop apps using the Java or C++ programming languages: pick Java (MIDP) SDK or C++ SDK

What development environment (IDE, Integrated Development Environment) you intend use: SDK for CodeWarrior or SDK for Borland or SDK for Microsoft.

What phone do you want to target: Determines version of Series 60, Series 80 or 7710 SDK.

You don't have to use an IDE (and live with just command line tools), but then you can't use the emulator and have to do all your trials and testing on an actual device.


SDK = Software Development Kit

MIDP = Mobile Information Device Profile (defines a subset of Java support), part of the J2SE (Java 2 Micro Edition) specifications.

Ok that's cleared up most of my questions -

Visual C++ 6 is my weapon of choice.

The device is my shiny new Sendo X and other Series 60's.

I assume that I'll need the Microsoft SDK in that case.

The book you recommend - does it take things right from the beginning (i.e. Hello, world-type programs to start with)?

Pretty much. It assumes you know C++ to some degree, though.

And if you want to use your Sendo X, then the SDK version is 1.2 (Series 60 1.2 or "Series 60 1st Edition") and for MIDP Java it'd be an SDK for MIDP 1.0.

See also the Sendo-specific developer site: http://www.sendo.com/sendo/developers

Hi 8))

I've installed SDK, Java Runtime, Perl, vc6+sp5 and have some problems with compiling helloworld example 8((

here's the result of typin abld build wins udeb in command line:

NMAKE: fatal error U1073: don't know how to make '"\Symbian\7.0s\Series60_v21_CW\EPOC32\RELEASE\WINS\ UDEB\EEXE.LIB"'

there's no explanation of this problem in SDK 8((
please help me 8)))

i am thinking of writing an application for 7710 S90 phone, don't have a clue between J2ME or C++. i have always been using delphi and all right with the logic etc. so am i likely to running in to trouble with these 2 language or there are no trouble can't be solved here? ?

btw i am goign to write it for my dessertation!

thanks

Azu - Are you following the Developing Series 60 Apps book by Nokia? If you are, make sure you download the code examples from the Nokia forum, otherwise your apps won't work.

BigEddie - You're writing Series 90 apps? Wow, and I thought Series 60 was tough. The problem is that Series 90 is still relatively new and most of the developers using it are very high level. It may be easier to get a cheap Series 60 phone and write for that. The book N/A recommends (the one I mentioned above) is pretty good but you'll hit a roadblock quite early on (as I have) if you don't have very, very good c++ knowledge. I would therefore very strongly recommend a friendly C++ book to get started with as well. Rumour had it that there was a C++ walkthrough guide being planned for AAS (which would be ideal for newbies like you and me) but I don't know what's happened with it.

Masamune: Thanks for the book, will have a look. in terms of which platform is that i have a 7710 and 7600 hence i have choices! reason been i wanna attack 7710 is bcos its new, so what about J2ME then? do you think it will be a little bit easier? and will my Delphi experiences help at all? ?

Hello Guys,

I am new to Symbian C++ programming and I am trying to find a tutorial to actually demonstrate how to code from scratch. I am able to build all of the examples that come with the Symbian_v6_0_C_PLUS_Nokia_9200_Series_SDK_1_2, but I am trying to write my own apps. I am familiar with J2ME, but I need to see where to place header files and dependencies etc... Thank you ahead of time. Urgent!!!

Hi,

I'm new to the Symbian platform (although I've been writing C since 1982). I just upgraded my mobile from a Motorola T190 to a Nokia 3230 so I'm looking at Series 60.

According to Nokia I can use Visual Studio, CodeWarrior, and Borland C++ Mobile Edition. (I have VS .Net already. I also have C++ Builder 5 and CodeWarrior on the Mac, too.)

Nokia's "Series 60 Developer Platform 1.0/2.0: Choosing An IDE" pdf file (Series_60_Developer_Platform_Choosing_An_IDE_v1_0 _2_0_en.pdf) is dated April 2004. That's a long time ago. That was before Nokia purchased the Symbian compiler from Metrowerks. Is all the information in it still applicable?

What are the current advantages and disadvantages between the three IDEs?

Thanks,
David

hey all
i m not new to c , vc++..bt i m not that good coder ... i wish to write some application for symbian 6 series .. i have vc with pearl & sdk of nokia frm nokia.forum ....
now when i see program files some developement tools for nokia 6 series..i see
1st. AIF builder
2nd. CS help
3rd. Sisar... i also have elumuntors
i supp this is alright ...now i wish to start programin i dont knwo whwre to start frm ....can any one o fu help me plzzzzzzzzzzzz :icon14:

Probably best to buy or borrow this book to start with: http://forum.nokia.com/main/1,6566,40_2,00.html

See also the numerous tutorials on http://www.newlc.com

Hi , please tell me what is the equivalent Symbian C++ function call for itoa in Linux

how can I program for symbian on Visual Studio 2005 after having installed the SDK? what is needed more? or is it already compatible? I heard of something like crossfire (appforge)

please help!

can i use Borland IDE (Delphi 7) instead of Microsoft Visual Studio???/

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