i went to a tradeshow yesterday and managed to see a p800 in action, i asked the guy who worked at sonyericsson who had it and he said that it will be released under Q4 2002 and that the information regarding the developer-toolkits on the homepage were wrong, it WILL be free. they had (as he said) around 4 toolkits available for free on their page and that did NOT include the java toolkits.

the release date is set to next year

It's available now, from SE here:

http://www.ericsson.com/mobilityworld/sub/open/technologies/epoc/tools/7_uiq?PU=epoc&PUname=Symbian%20OS&PUCat=technologies

:D

saw the news after i posted it :)

... it WILL be free. they had (as he said) around 4 toolkits available for free on their page and that did NOT include the java toolkits.

In the developer download section of SE you can read:

"... it also includes a UIQ emulator, which requires CodeWarrior Development Studio for Symbian OS to run C++ applications"

CodeWarrior isn't free! And without the emulator you can't do much! :-(

I think this is a bad mistake of SE not to release the Developer Kit for free (or maybe for only a small amount). A platform can only live with it's software, and most of software is written by independant or private developers (like Me). I don't think there will be many private developers with a dev-kit price of nearly $1000,-!
Therefore the platform sells bad - and if the platform sells bad, the bigger companys (which have the funds to buy the devkit) will also not write software! It's a vicious circle!

How do you think about it?

Greetings,
Martin