View Full Version : It is out in france


winalex
31-05-2004, 04:24 PM
It is finally out in france !

Some guys have bought it and bad news...

THe screen is very dark (bad light), the completion is not very good (it moves), and it is very thick...

All the guys like who waited for it a long will be disapointed ... :icon13:

Good work Sendo !

jac57
31-05-2004, 05:50 PM
It is finally out in france !

Some guys have bought it and bad news...

THe screen is very dark (bad light), the completion is not very good (it moves), and it is very thick...

All the guys like who waited for it a long will be disapointed ... :icon13:

Good work Sendo !
its not in spain i have just got back 2 hrs ago

winalex
31-05-2004, 05:54 PM
its not in spain i have just got back 2 hrs ago

It is an exclusivity SFR, on the "champs elysées"(lol), a new market of phones has opened and they are the only who have it ...

So france is the first sells the sendo x ! :)

flipitw
01-06-2004, 11:38 AM
I really doubt that. Do you have any proof?

pauleylad
01-06-2004, 06:02 PM
Same here, I think this is a wind up.

winalex
01-06-2004, 08:25 PM
Same here, I think this is a wind up.

Ok i went to the market and i tested it !

I loved it and i will buy it maybe tomorow or saturdayy ... :icon14:


If you want i can send photos or video by msn ....

pauleylad
01-06-2004, 08:30 PM
That would be great if you could.
I thought though that you didn't like it though looking at your first post.
Paul

winalex
01-06-2004, 08:55 PM
That would be great if you could.
I thought though that you didn't like it though looking at your first post.
Paul
Firends said it wasn't good but me i tested and i actually love it !

pauleylad
01-06-2004, 10:14 PM
Nice one, let us know how you get on.

al_vella
01-06-2004, 11:57 PM
Ok i went to the market and i tested it !

I loved it and i will buy it maybe tomorow or saturdayy ... :icon14:


winalex what you are saying must be total bs, as on the sendo site it very clearly states that the X is not yet commercially available, you must have been testing a pre-release model, of which there are many about, plus the first countries to receive the X will be spain and italy (expected release date is mid-june), then germany and uk, i have not heard any mention of france yet.

dragon-tmd
02-06-2004, 05:03 AM
winalex what you are saying must be total bs, as on the sendo site it very clearly states that the X is not yet commercially available, you must have been testing a pre-release model, of which there are many about, plus the first countries to receive the X will be spain and italy (expected release date is mid-june), then germany and uk, i have not heard any mention of france yet.

The X is NOT released yet. At SFR (superstore at champs elysees) you just have the chance to PRe-ORDER it. The X is not released by Sendo and probably WILL NOT within some days or weeks. All other news are scam/hoaxes ...

BTW: I'm fed up with Sendo and I'll buy a N7610 (which IS released) or a Mpx100 which will be released sooner than the X :rolleyes:

al_vella
02-06-2004, 09:57 AM
is the 7610 really out already? didnt know.

pauleylad
02-06-2004, 10:02 AM
Yeah there are a few people on howards forums already with the 7610. Still don't know what to go for.
I'm going to wait I think for a few user reviews of the Sendo and 7610 and decide from there. I've waited this long I suppose another 3-4 weeks wont harm!!

al_vella
02-06-2004, 10:09 AM
Yeah there are a few people on howards forums already with the 7610. Still don't know what to go for.
I'm going to wait I think for a few user reviews of the Sendo and 7610 and decide from there. I've waited this long I suppose another 3-4 weeks wont harm!!

waiting a little while longer certainly wont harm, seeing we (or at least I) have waited for more than half a year, the only thing the 7610 has over the X is the 1MP camera, and the fact that the X has firmware upgrades really does tip the scales in favor of the X for me.

winalex
02-06-2004, 01:17 PM
Are you stupids ???

There is the price and they sold it to someone !

IT S NOT A PRE RELEASE !

Come to SFR, buy it and after you will be able to talk !

And now i m sure that sendo x is better than 7610 ! the flash (a real flash!), the grat memory (30 mo without card), the speed, the MMC/SD slot, etc!

Add karalex55@hotmail.com and i send you the photo or video ! :icon4:

al_vella
02-06-2004, 01:30 PM
Are you stupids ???

There is the price and they sold it to someone !

IT S NOT A PRE RELEASE !

Come to SFR, buy it and after you will be able to talk !

And now i m sure that sendo x is better than 7610 ! the flash (a real flash!), the grat memory (30 mo without card), the speed, the MMC/SD slot, etc!

Add karalex55@hotmail.com and i send you the photo or video ! :icon4:

they MUST have sold him a pre release, the X IS NOT YET COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE as stated on the official site. and one more thing, that flash is no real flash (to show that this is a bogus report) the flash is just an ultra-bright white LED that barely helps.

winalex
02-06-2004, 03:00 PM
they MUST have sold him a pre release, the X IS NOT YET COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE as stated on the official site. and one more thing, that flash is no real flash (to show that this is a bogus report) the flash is just an ultra-bright white LED that barely helps.

NOW THIS IS A REAL FLASH AND THE SOFTWARE IS THE LAST, IT IS VERY FAST ! (6600 is slow compared to a sendo x)

pauleylad
02-06-2004, 03:03 PM
Would it be possible to make a software change for it to "flash" instead of just being a bright led?

al_vella
02-06-2004, 03:07 PM
no its not possible as it depends on various physical electrical components. plus a 'real flash' would drain the battery almost instantly as they need a large current.

pauleylad
02-06-2004, 03:09 PM
Here are some photo's and vids that winalex kindly sent to me.

pauleylad
02-06-2004, 03:09 PM

al_vella
02-06-2004, 03:11 PM
can anyone make out the price?

pauleylad
02-06-2004, 03:11 PM
Got two 3gp vids also but can't seem to upload them.

al_vella
02-06-2004, 03:12 PM
oh ok, 300 euros. can that be!? or is that not sim free?

pauleylad
02-06-2004, 03:15 PM
I heard 299 euros with activation and 590 euros sim free.

al_vella
02-06-2004, 03:17 PM
woooow 590!? thats steep!!! has to go down to 500 before i even consider that

winalex
02-06-2004, 04:58 PM
woooow 590!? thats steep!!! has to go down to 500 before i even consider that

It is 299 euros with sim and 599 without ...

But the price is due to the exclusivity .....

I went today buy it 299 euros but i had some problems and i need to do complicate stuff, so ....

N/A
02-06-2004, 07:40 PM
NOW THIS IS A REAL FLASH AND THE SOFTWARE IS THE LAST, IT IS VERY FAST ! (6600 is slow compared to a sendo x)The flash is, most definitely, a bright, white LED on the Sendo X. It is not a flash like on actual cameras.

winalex
07-06-2004, 09:50 PM
My test is out (but in french)

http://www.nettelecom.org/index.php?showtopic=12113&s=

DAN55
08-06-2004, 04:32 PM
Hello Dan,

By the way, where did you hear or read about the dark screen. I really can
only find one possible explanation. In France the Sendo X is displayed
behind glass. It is a real phone and not a dummy, so therefore it is
possible that the backlight was off.

Anyway, I can assure you that the screen is not dark.

Marijke

antoine66
08-06-2004, 04:53 PM
Hello Dan,

By the way, where did you hear or read about the dark screen. I really can
only find one possible explanation. In France the Sendo X is displayed
behind glass. It is a real phone and not a dummy, so therefore it is
possible that the backlight was off.

Anyway, I can assure you that the screen is not dark.

Marijke

Hey Dan ask about that ram situation and a FIRM release date. Thanks

DAN55
08-06-2004, 04:57 PM
have just asked about a uk date. shall check again about the ram. ive been advised that the 32mb is actually eeprom not ram. ram isnt generally quoted at all

al_vella
08-06-2004, 05:20 PM
hey dan its nirvana here. the 30mb on the sendo x are comparable to the memory on your hardisk, were applications are actually saved. the RAM (being a measly 4/5MB) is the memory upon which programs are actually run. big difference.

DAN55
08-06-2004, 05:27 PM
hey nirvana:

why the name change?

thats what i was trying to say above. but its not actaully hd though is it. it some sort of burnable mem? back in my day, stuff like that used to be called EEPROM. :?

ive bounced it back to Marijke! ;)

pelwell
08-06-2004, 05:30 PM
The Sendo X technical specification PDF says:

Internal RAM: 16MB (approx 6MB free for applications)
Internal storage memory: 64MB
Internal memory for customer content: Up to 32MB (approx)

The first of these is obviously real RAM, the second is presumably the size of the on-board FLASH memory, and the third is the amount of that FLASH not taken up by system content (presumably the OS).

6MB doesn't sound too bad, but obviously that will drop as you run things, and it isn't clear whether that figure includes the space occupied by the standard applications.

DAN55
08-06-2004, 05:33 PM
thanks for clearing that up pelwell

dragon-tmd
09-06-2004, 07:47 AM
Release date for Germany,UK and Netherlands will be END of June, beginning of July!

There is NO end-user version out, they just started delivering small amounts to italy & spain beginning of this week.

So the end-user version may have "more" RAM, but not more than 6 MB! Thats means most of the N-GAGE games will NOT work!

skyfox2004
09-06-2004, 11:16 AM
So the end-user version may have "more" RAM, but not more than 6 MB! Thats means most of the N-GAGE games will NOT work!

Couldn;t you possibly add more ram to the internals yourself, like they do with some pda's?

N/A
09-06-2004, 06:37 PM
No, you cannot add more RAM. I haven't heard of any PDAs that allows any do-it-yourself RAM upgrades either (they, like this phone, might have a memory card slot for additional storage memory, though).

Delta737
09-06-2004, 07:24 PM
skyfox is right there N/A. You can upgrade the RAM on the ipaq or the xda(II) for example, although it has to be done by a specialist (there is a company that actually does these kind of things).

However I don't think it's possible on the X...

terryng
10-06-2004, 09:51 AM
Hello,

Can someone who has bought the phone comment on the voice quality please? Winalex may has already addressed this, but, it is in French. Sorry, I cannot read French. Thanks!

skyfox2004
10-06-2004, 06:19 PM
Well, theres only one way to find out. If anyone has one, and are feeling, I dunno.. a little 'Devil may Care' would you be able to open one up and take pictures of the internals. Sendo are a relatively small company as phone company's go, so chances are, they would be using industry standard parts, not memory that is shaped and formed to the c ontours of the sendo. This means that the Ram (as it's totally wiped each time the phone is off) could be replaced by expensive other phone ram (perhaps the N Gage's?) that is larger in capacity.

Just a thought. Be a good project for someone. Just think of the benifits!

O[R]O
12-06-2004, 12:51 AM
it's not possible to replace the ram chip of 16 mb to an 32 mb chip?

if we close all open aplications we can have more than 6 mb ram? it's to poor, i'm dissapointed, very disapointed

O[R]O
12-06-2004, 01:10 AM
the n-gage QD have 12 mb ram free to usser

Rayman
18-06-2004, 03:13 PM
Well, theres only one way to find out. If anyone has one, and are feeling, I dunno.. a little 'Devil may Care' would you be able to open one up and take pictures of the internals. Sendo are a relatively small company as phone company's go, so chances are, they would be using industry standard parts, not memory that is shaped and formed to the c ontours of the sendo. This means that the Ram (as it's totally wiped each time the phone is off) could be replaced by expensive other phone ram (perhaps the N Gage's?) that is larger in capacity.

Just a thought. Be a good project for someone. Just think of the benifits!


Don't you believe it. One of Sendo's gripes against and reasons for taking the makers of the Orange SPV (and Microsoft) to court was that it had 'copied' the minaturisation of the components that Sendo have pioneered. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find that they have 'customised' some of the key parts. And the RAM in question is almost certainly surface mounted and probably in the form of a micro BGA, you'd need very specialist equipment to attempt the change and would probably destroy the circuitry in the process.

Also, don't be too sure that by publishing photo's of the internals that you aren't breaking any copyright laws, it's not unheard of for Sendo to take legal action you know ;) :D

orol
28-06-2004, 01:43 AM
woooow 590!? thats steep!!! has to go down to 500 before i even consider that

you can buy it in germany now for around 450-460 euro, which is not bad price

dragon-tmd
28-06-2004, 10:13 AM
you can buy it in germany now for around 450-460 euro, which is not bad price

Bullshit, you CAN'T buy it here and you may not buy it within some weeks, since Germany is not on their roll-out list.

Btw: You can't buy it on expansys either, you CAN buy it in Netherlands at BelCompany for about 799,00 EUR unsubsidized WITH Route 66 bundle.

They do not sell it without this bundle!

orol
28-06-2004, 11:45 AM
Bullshit, you CAN'T buy it here and you may not buy it within some weeks, since Germany is not on their roll-out list.

Btw: You can't buy it on expansys either, you CAN buy it in Netherlands at BelCompany for about 799,00 EUR unsubsidized WITH Route 66 bundle.

They do not sell it without this bundle!


you CAN, the release date is 4.7. even on www.sendo.de! :-)

dragon-tmd
28-06-2004, 02:05 PM
you CAN, the release date is 4.7. even on www.sendo.de! :-)

So you have absolutly NO idea .... www.sendo.de get their "informations" from Sendo Birmingham, which is in fact THE headquarter. At the moment they (Sendo Birmingham) decide, when the X will be released to Germany, UK and the rest.

There is NO final release date for these countries and the stated websites only give you a date, which has been announced by sendo.de - which is in fact talk@bout communications - weeks ago. They are the german distributors of Sendo.

Sendo Birmingham decides and they simply don't have final release dates for Germany & UK at the moment.

In fact, they don't have enough devices to fulfill the rollout plans in Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands.

This is one reason, you can't buy the X at expansys or any other "international" site now ... and I fear, it will take some more weeks until you can buy it outside these countries to import it to Germany or UK ...

orol
28-06-2004, 02:40 PM
So you have absolutly NO idea .... www.sendo.de get their "informations" from Sendo Birmingham, which is in fact THE headquarter. At the moment they (Sendo Birmingham) decide, when the X will be released to Germany, UK and the rest.

There is NO final release date for these countries and the stated websites only give you a date, which has been announced by sendo.de - which is in fact talk@bout communications - weeks ago. They are the german distributors of Sendo.

Sendo Birmingham decides and they simply don't have final release dates for Germany & UK at the moment.

In fact, they don't have enough devices to fulfill the rollout plans in Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands.

This is one reason, you can't buy the X at expansys or any other "international" site now ... and I fear, it will take some more weeks until you can buy it outside these countries to import it to Germany or UK ...


well I know, but for it's fine. but I guess I will wait until it drops to around 360 like SX or 6600 prices are (I assume this will be in september or so)