HELP! HELP!

Someone must know how to connect to the PC's internet connection via Bluetooth!

(Dont forget to answer the POLL above!!)

I would like to be able to surf the internet from my Nokia 6600 using the PC's internet connection. Surfing the internet from within 10 meters of my PC would thus be free of charge.

I have heard it is too expensive to use the phone's GPRS connection.

I have not had my first bill for the mobile Network provider's first GPRS connections, but based on their price plan of 1 cent per Kilobyte, the average small page will cost 25 cents/pence/rappen and a page with graphics could easily be more than $1. This makes it expensive compared to the PC based Broadband connection which is effectively free.

I would like to use my phone to surf the net and check news or share prices because my kids are on the PC, (and it would be much more discreet to do it on the phone).

Is anyone aware of a way of defing the bluetooth connection as the access point? Or any other way to use the Bluetooth connection to access a PC's internet connection?

I for one would pay money for a fix that would let me use my 6600 to connect via Bluetooth to my PC and then surf the internet from the PC Broadband connection.


So come on all you programmers out there. Make yourself rich by discovering the solution.


PLEASE..................PLEASE.................... .........Don't forget to answer the POLL above!!

I'm shure "the programmers" are working on this right now. People have posted complaints about this every other day in every symbian 60 forum since the nokia 6600 came out. Maybe nokia did a too good job preventing their new phone make use of free internet connection?

just a little comment here.. Yes it's free internet when connected through BT and it's fun to be able to do surfing through the phone from time to time, but it isn't a solution when you are away from the pc.. Providers aren't really losing big money here,cuz most of the time you'd still have to connect through GPRS.. Don't quite get it why Nokia would go through so much trouble just to remove a good feature from the phone... :S

Originally posted by RayGun
just a little comment here.. Yes it's free internet when connected through BT and it's fun to be able to do surfing through the phone from time to time, but it isn't a solution when you are away from the pc..

You can of course get 100 metre bluetooth dongles for PC now? so yes you wouldn't be able to use it on the move but certainly anywhere in the house I imagine.

I hope there is a good solution found to this problem by the time my 6600 arrives, maybe try posting in some of the Symbian Developer forums? someone will know! How about creating a 'dummy' server on your PC and connecting to that?

The phone is not equiped with a Bluetooth chip that has a range of 100 m but somewhere arround 10 m so your 100 m range/1rst class PC dongle will not be of any use to you.

I have given some thought to these 100m bluetooth adapters that I have seen on ebay.

At first I thought 'hmm, strange, that would be useless, the adapter would be able to talk to the phone but the phone could not talk back'

But then I figured that the adapeter was clearly using a higher powered transmitter and so it's possible that it's also using a more sensitive receiver - one that could detect the low powered bluetooth from the phone?

This is a guess of course, has one one tried this in practice? Logic does seem to state that the phone could not have a working BT connection 20meters from the BT station, but practical experience is what counts here.

Originally posted by mat.phillips
I have given some thought to these 100m bluetooth adapters that I have seen on ebay.

At first I thought 'hmm, strange, that would be useless, the adapter would be able to talk to the phone but the phone could not talk back'

But then I figured that the adapeter was clearly using a higher powered transmitter and so it's possible that it's also using a more sensitive receiver - one that could detect the low powered bluetooth from the phone?

This is a guess of course, has one one tried this in practice? Logic does seem to state that the phone could not have a working BT connection 20meters from the BT station, but practical experience is what counts here.

I have no facts on this, but my guess would be that it MIGHT be able to receive for a few more meters,but not up to 100m..Perhaps12-13 tops..But I doubt that receiver is so much better..The transmitter is making sure that signal gets further.. Difference between 10 and 100 m is afterall 10X as far.. ;)

Cheers
RayGun

Having examined the results of the Poll, it is safe to say that only 4% of respondents never look at naked women, and 96% want to use their Bluetooth connection to connect to someone elses pc to surf the net.

...to 'someone elses pc' ????

Not sure what that means. Allow me to offar a practical use for the feature.

(To clarify 'feature': The ability to access internet on mobile phone via the BT link to Mrouter, thus no call charges)

I spend quite a bit of time on IRC, I am a moderator for a busy channel and so there are times when I need to be sat infront of the computer watching the channel. There are times I'd like to be watching TV instead... or cooking etc.

What I do is use an IRC client on the 7650 and monitor the channel that way, when something looks like it needs my input, I walk to the PC and respond. It's like carrying my monitor in my hand.

It works well for me, but I'd like to be able to do this with the 6600.

This is just one use for the facility. I'm sure others have their own things that make the loss of access annoying

another post here is discussing this, or should i say has been, anyway, it is here (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?p=164008#post164008)

I am bringing up these old posts so we keep em moving ;)

I live in a 1 bedroom house which is very small. There is nowhere in my house that is further than 10m from my PC. I just want to be able to surf the net while I take a dump :)

spanky: That's my dream too :D

My brother is using IRC while connected via BT to my PC right now.BTW:He is in the bathroom.The only problem is he is using a 7650 ;)

My brother is using IRC while connected via BT to my PC right now.BTW:He is in the bathroom.The only problem is he is using a 7650 ;)

I live in a 1 bedroom house which is very small. There is nowhere in my house that is further than 10m from my PC. I just want to be able to surf the net while I take a dump


Hmmm.... Loo surfers.... :tongue:

My brother is using IRC while connected via BT to my PC right now.BTW:He is in the bathroom.The only problem is he is using a 7650 ;)
Should I understand that as advice for us to purchase a 7650 for... "restroom use"? :D

Should I understand that as advice for us to purchase a 7650 for... "restroom use"? :D

Well, it is a cheap rest room IRC terminal...

:D

Hmmm, I see the idea of surfing the net in the bathroom is a very popular one :D

It is about doing two usually very relaxing and natural things at the same time. Browsing and... well, you know :)

darn, nokia should have thought of that when they launched 7650


Your DumpBuddy.

guys, focus on the issue here,,,,, is it gonna work :) so we all can DO IT ;)

You can purchase any other Symbian device then the 6600 for use as a restroom irc client/web browser.

I can't believe that internet via bluetooth is not a standard feature.

It's not just for browsing the net or using irc, I want to develop applications for the phone. It's pretty galling to be paying £1.50 per megabyte to transfer data via satellite over the internet from the PC 10cm from the phone just because I can't use the built in bluetooth for TCP/IP.

I've read in another thread that a Bluetooth Access Point rather than a USB Stick would work but that thread seems to confuse which phones this will work for.,

Can anyone confirm that a Bluetooth Access Point will work with the 6600, and mention which access point this is.

I don't wnt to pay the extra for the USB Print server. Hopefully it will be the el-cheapo D-Link one :)

I don't suppose Nokia "fixed" the problem in the new firmware?

There is an option in Agile Messenger for connection via BT instead of GPRS. Have not tried it myself though.

Guys, i got my hands on a 3650 & tried it with the 6600 router.

here is what happenes.

using doris 1.19 (+bluetooth fix) demo version.

looking up www.nokia.com (waiting here)

Loading...

& there. Nothing further.

i am trying to isolate the problem, is it the device or the router.

If anyone has any suggestion on how to do so, please let me know.

What do we gather from this so far?
is the 6600-router acting one-way only.
BUT, since it did report resolving the DNS for www.nokia.com, that means it is working bothways!!

I will try to find the original router for 3650 & try it with the 6600, I am allowed to do so since i OWN both units,....& i will report back,

if you test it with putty http://s2putty.sourceforge.net/ you might get a bit more information

you should also maybe use addresses *within* your network as it could be the routing rather than anything else.

If you need an ssh server for windows then look no further : http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/

as the Windows Telnet Server doesn't always play nice with putty, and besides, it's telnet!

confirmed.

3650 using agilemessenger 2, working fine with the router.

i have not had the chance to test the agile messenger with the 6600, my set had to go back to the maker :)

if anyone tests it please report here. Agile's has a "passthrough" connection method that could be the key.

confirmed.

3650 using agilemessenger 2, working fine with the router.

the real test would be opening arbitrary sockets

I have no facts on this, but my guess would be that it MIGHT be able to receive for a few more meters,but not up to 100m..Perhaps12-13 tops..But I doubt that receiver is so much better..The transmitter is making sure that signal gets further.. Difference between 10 and 100 m is afterall 10X as far.. ;)

Cheers
RayGun

Is this possible :

Get two Nokia 6600 phones with the same provider who gives you unlimited free calls between these two phone. Use one of the phones to connect to internet through your desktop at home through bluetooth. so now one of your phones has internet on it. Now, use the other phone when you are outside, connect it to your other phone at home since you have unlimited free calls, make a data call and then use the phone outside to connect to the internet. Now u can use the phone that you have outside to connect to your laptop with internet. This way, you will have free access to the internet even when you are on the go. I think it might not be possible right now but certainly is a solution where you have a lan connection at home and use it to connect to your laptop while outside. Heard once that soneone got it working. dont remember when. any comments ??

Hi,

I managed to connect my 6600 to internet using bluetooth and dial-up connection on my PC. I used a CSR USB Bt dongle and winXP SP2. My FW version is 4.09.1. Also used gnubox.
More details on http://anoopt.mybesthost.com/bluetooth/6600internet.htm.

-Anoop

Hi,

I managed to connect my 6600 to internet using bluetooth and dial-up connection on my PC. I used a CSR USB Bt dongle and winXP SP2. My FW version is 4.09.1. Also used gnubox.
More details on http://anoopt.mybesthost.com/bluetooth/6600internet.htm.

-Anoop

As most people are too excited to report back I thought I should. This works!! It does Exactly what it says on the side of the tin.

AnalogX's website was down so I had to wait till today to complete it but after a few false starts with wrong com ports it burst into life. Surfing on 6600 via bluetooth via pc via broadband.

Message to T-Mobile No more gprs revenue from me :)

are there any recent help sites for 6620, ive been serching but unable to find help sites.

Hi,

I managed to connect my 6600 to internet using bluetooth and dial-up connection on my PC. I used a CSR USB Bt dongle and winXP SP2. My FW version is 4.09.1. Also used gnubox.
More details on http://anoopt.mybesthost.com/bluetooth/6600internet.htm.

-Anoop

Hi,
I've read your guide but now I can not install driver SP2 stack, Windows XP didnot detect my USB Bluetooth! I have BlueSoleil Dongle. Could you help me this matter. Many thanks in advance.

under add COM port of the Bluetooth Devices, I can't add any Outgoing port??? any idea? the search comes up empty device?

You can do this, easily. I can't do this with Cingular right now because I don't have the modem option on my plan. (this option costs 80 bucks or so for the unlimited data..) I'm not paying that much to use my phone as a modem, I would rather not..

I used to have ATT Wireless and I was able to connect via infrared on my laptop to the internet. I wish Cingular was the same as ATT in that respect.. :-|

Hi,
I've read your guide but now I can not install driver SP2 stack, Windows XP didnot detect my USB Bluetooth! I have BlueSoleil Dongle. Could you help me this matter. Many thanks in advance.

Check the Hardware compatibility list for your USB Bluetooth adapter at the microsoft website. Any hardware listed there should be automatically installed by windows xp. If not, you will have to install the drivers that came with the adapter. :)

I have written a very detailed and step by step guide forum on how to connect internet on N70 via pc connection. jus check it out and enjoy.

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45477

Right now am working on a project for changing fonts on N70.

For any help or comments please mail me on planetorium@kewlcomputers.com

Internet on N70 using pc connection.
In this Part I will focus mainly on internet related features of the Nokia N70. This guide is going to be a long one so take the time to read it, it will be worth it.

Let me start off by listing the ways to get connected to the internet on the N70 and what maximum speeds are achieved in each case.

1. GPRS over GSM networks at 14Kbps MAX.
2. GPRS over UMTS networks at 14Kbps MAX.
3. GPRS over 3G networks at 50Kbps MAX.
4. Using PC’s internet connection via Bluetooth at your PC’s connection speed.

The first three connection types are quite basic. If your service provider supports them, they will provide you with assistance on how to activate them. However the last one is a bit different from the rest and I will show how to make it work. Let me explain why you need it and how it functions.

Lets assume you want to be able to use internet on your N70 while at home. You have a fast 24/7 internet connection on your PC and have a bluetooth adapter/dongle. Now, instead of paying your service provider for using GPRS, you want to route your PC’s internet connection to your N70 via bluetoth so that you can use the internet on your N70 free of charge while at home. Alright now, lets get our hands dirty with this stuff.

Let’s make sure we have all the tid bits required to make it work:

* A PC with an internet connection (duh!)
* A bluetooth dongle/adapter with appropriate drivers installed (Preferably Widcomm or Broadcom drivers)
* m-Router 3 - Download it from here http://developer.intuwave.com/Downlo...authorize_form
* Gnubox for N70 - Download it from here http://www.crazylittleworld.com/n70/gnubox_N70.sis

Make sure your bluetooth drivers are installed and working correctly. I am using Widcomm drivers for bluetooth that came with my Bluetooth adapter. Default Windows drivers should work just as well.

Configuring m-Router

Let’s first configure m-Router to accept incoming. Start the mRouter installation and complete it. If you are using Widcomm drivers, something like this might show up right after the installation process:

m-router%20config

Click no if the above screen appears.

m-router%20config

After the installation, the setup wizard will come, click Next>

m-router%20config

Select your N70 in the device selection screen and click Next>

m-router%20config

Uncheck the box where it says “Automatically connect to this device when it is in range” and click Finish

m-router%20config

Now right click on the m-Router taskbar icon and click on Advanced Settings

m-router%20config

Click on the View button under Additional COM Ports

m-router%20config

Select the COM Port used by your Bluetooth device and click on >> as shown above. In my case the COM Port used is COM5, it may be different in your case.

m-router%20config

After setting the COM Port, click OK.

m-router%20config

Under connectivity methods, look for Additional COM Ports and expand it to make sure your COM port is there. Click Close

Now that our m-Router is all set, let’s configure Gnubox on the N70.

Gnubox for N70 Configuration

Transfer the file gnubox_N70.sis and follow the regular installation process. Make sure that Bluetooth is turned ON on your PC and N70. Also make sure that your PC and N70 are paired.
Go to Tools -> Settings -> Connection -> Access points . See the image below
Gnubox

Go to Options -> New access point -> Use default settings.
Gnubox

Change the connection name to Bt. Gnubox will not accept any other connection name so make sure you have it set to Bt.
Gnubox Gnubox

Now that you have a connection named Bt, run Gnubox and go to Options -> Install -> Create Records

Gnubox Gnubox

Dont worry when it says ISP ‘Bt’ not found. Exit Gnubox. This step is very important so make sure you Exit Gnubox.

Gnubox

Now run Gnubox again. This time the screen will look something like below.

Gnubox

Go to Options -> 2box Bluetooth -> Serial port.
Gnubox

The phone will now search for Bluetooth devices, select you PC and hit OK. The screen should look like below.
Gnubox

We are almost done here. Now Go to Options -> Install -> change default AP to set Bt as your default Access Point. Then go to Options -> Debug -> Bring up IF
Gnubox

That’s all, the phone will connect to your PC via Bluetooth and show a message saying “Connection Open” (couldn’t take a screenshot of that, it goes away too quick). Now you can browse the internet, chat with friends and do pretty much anything that you can do over GPRS.

Alright now, so far I have discussed the ways to get online and gave a detailed description on how to get connected via Bluetooth using PC’s internet connection.

if you having any problems or comments please contact me on planetorium@kewlcomputers.com

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Hai iam vasanth From india now i use in pc internet using via blue tooth . First you instal the blue tooth software on your pc then you take your phone open settings and select connections then select access point on your mobile then you type the gprs access point name then you open your pc blue tooth connection then open your dial up network then dial and use your internet enjoy if there is any mistake message me (vraj2005@yahoo.com)

Wirelessly posted (Nokia6600/1.0 (5.53.0) SymbianOS/7.0s Series60/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0)

Hai iam vasanth From india now i use in pc internet using via blue tooth . First you instal the blue tooth software on your pc then you take your phone open settings and select connections then select access point on your mobile then you type the gprs access point name then you open your pc blue tooth connection then open your dial up network then dial and use your internet enjoy if there is any mistake message me (vraj2005@yahoo.com)

Wirelessly posted (Nokia6600/1.0 (5.53.0) SymbianOS/7.0s Series60/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0)

Hai iam vasanth From india now i use in pc internet using via blue tooth . First you instal the blue tooth software on your pc then you take your phone open settings and select connections then select access point on your mobile then you type the gprs access point name then you open your pc blue tooth connection then open your dial up network then dial and use your internet enjoy if there is any mistake message me (vraj2005@yahoo.com)

hi vasanth

i have a nokia 6600
i have a billionton bluetooth
i use bluesoleil software

i've tried the procedure u told but i can get to it.
will u please explain the whole procedure step by step FOR NOKIA 6600...
also is there anything else like some other software etc required to do this.

thanx in advance... ( i think a lot of people here would appreciate it ) :icon14:

where are all people yar ...

if vasanth has not been able to come online for few days, is there no one else who can put up an idiot's guide.

come on friendz, some one should step up!