Will the 6600 have a better builtin browser than the p800? And the other thing i want to know is that will the builtin browser of the sx1 be better or will the 6600 have a better browser?

Man.Sx1,6600 have the same browsers Xtml,and you can install 3rd party browsers.

I think this is a valid point. Nokia should think about such things as a built in browser (at least a basic one) since the phone has such easy connectivity to the wed through GPRS or regular WAP over GSM.

I think this is a valid point. Nokia should think about such things as a built in browser (at least a basic one) since the phone has such easy connectivity to the wed through GPRS or regular WAP over GSM. Actually, there's no such thing as "wap" anymore in the 6600. It has xhtml browser which uses pure tcp/ip stack for connections. So, no wap protocols anymore. SX1 still uses wap stack.

I think this is a valid point. Nokia should think about such things as a built in browser (at least a basic one) since the phone has such easy connectivity to the wed through GPRS or regular WAP over GSM. but NOKIA will need to made contract with OPERA,ot some other company.Now Nokia has contract only with real one.

for the 9210(i)

Nokia uses Opera isn't it

but dunno if they still in the contract

Actually, there's no such thing as "wap" anymore in the 6600. It has xhtml browser which uses pure tcp/ip stack for connections. So, no wap protocols anymore. SX1 still uses wap stack.What makes you claim that? I seriously doubt that's the case; there's no sensible reason to drop WAP protocol support yet, as it'd mean many existing services would become inaccessible. And since the code already has been written and tested in existing Series 60 releases/phones, there's a marginal cost (testing and memory footprint) in keeping it around.

Note that the built-in browser in the current 3650 also supports some version of XHTML already (with WAP).

What makes you claim that? I seriously doubt that's the case; there's no sensible reason to drop WAP protocol support yet, as it'd mean many existing services would become inaccessible. And since the code already has been written and tested in existing Series 60 releases/phones, there's a marginal cost (testing and memory footprint) in keeping it around.

Note that the built-in browser in the current 3650 also supports some version of XHTML already (with WAP). To get this information, all you need to do is browse to Forum Nokia website and pick up the info. 6600 browser still understands wml, so all existing services are available. The fact is that 6600 has tcp/ip stack instead of wap stack.

The fact is that 6600 has tcp/ip stack instead of wap stack.Instead of, or does it perhaps have both?

Instead of, or does it perhaps have both? It has only tcp/ip stack.

Will the 6600 have a better builtin browser than the p800?

The web browsing experience on a N6600 can never be as good as on a P800 IMO. -Simply because the P800 screen is almost twice the size of the N6600 screen, and as the P800 screen is touch sensitive, the manouvering will be better. The P800 also offers a faster GPRS connection.

When that is said, the N6600 will also most likely work with the excellent Opera browser, which should run better on the N6600 than the Nx650's because it has more RAM.

I also believe that Opera(currently available only to the SYMBIAN OS) offers a better web browsing experience than any other web browser available, even for PPC's and Palm's.

Instead of, or does it perhaps have both? It has only tcp/ip stack.

no, I think it has not!
there´s no info regarding tcp/ip on the 6600.
the first nokia which will be able to run that protocol will be the 5100.

her´s a quote from the latest Nokia Developer Network Newsletter:




Color XHTML and HTTP over TCP/IP Development Begins with the Nokia 5100 SDK


Mobile browsing has taken another evolutionary step with the Nokia 5100
device (Americas version), the first Nokia phone to use a TCP/IP
connection for color XHTML browsing and HTTP communication.
Supporting these new capabilities, the Nokia 5100 SDK is an all-in-one
solution for developing enticing applications that utilize TCP/IP
communication and the rich presentation abilities of this Nokia phone.

The Nokia 5100 SDK emulates the browser, Multimedia Messaging
Service (MMS) client, and Java(TM) 2 Platform, Micro Edition
(J2ME[TM] platform) MIDP client of the phone, as well as the network
communication. The SDK can be configured to use any WAP gateway
or connect directly to remote or local content.

The Nokia 5100 SDK is also the first Nokia phone SDK to feature
Diagnostics, a unique set of views into the phone software that provide
unprecedented insight into the behavior of the phone as it runs various
applications. From client/server transactions to KVM heap usage, there
is no other source for this critical information.

The Nokia 5100 SDK can be used as a plug-in by developers using Nokia
Mobile Internet Toolkit 4.0, Nokia Developer's Suite 1.0 for MMS, or
Adobe GoLive 6.1 or later for MMS and browser content. The SDK also can
be used with Borland's JBuilder, Sun ONE Studio, and Nokia Developer's
Suite for J2ME(TM) for MIDlet development.

Download the Nokia 5100 SDK http://www.uptilt.com/ct.html?s=7za,2zcn,alk,dfaw,mawt,7at2,c1hw

Download the Installation Guide http://www.uptilt.com/ct.html?s=7za,2zcn,alk,53nu,i6pn,7at2,c1hw

Download the User's Guide http://www.uptilt.com/ct.html?s=7za,2zcn,alk,dkbg,lzcl,7at2,c1hw



cheers

no, I think it has not!
there´s no info regarding tcp/ip on the 6600.
the first nokia which will be able to run that protocol will be the 5100...


Is it so hard to check?? Go to here (http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/1,6566,015,00.html) and find 6600 from the device matrix.

Quote from the matrix: "WAP 2.0 & XHTML over TCP/IP"[/url]

no, I think it has not!
there´s no info regarding tcp/ip on the 6600.
the first nokia which will be able to run that protocol will be the 5100...


Is it so hard to check?? Go to here (http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/1,6566,015,00.html) and find 6600 from the device matrix.

Quote from the matrix: "WAP 2.0 & XHTML over TCP/IP"[/url]
it´s a mistake!
it´s not the first time that this site of the forum provides wrong informations!!!

check again the headline of the developer forum newsletter: 5100 will be the first to run TCP/IP!
and where do you find something about TCP/IP on the 6600 features-site
http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,33211,00.html ???
and check the developer forum: are there any SDKs for TCP/IP for 6600???

cheers

The 5100 may be released before the 6600.The SDK regarding the 6600 will be Series 60 2.0 SDK.

This is from PDF files i downloaded from forum nokia

Series 60 Platform 2.0 provides a dual IPv4/v6 networking stack. The new TCP/IP
stack supports a plug-in mechanism, where networking modules can be hooked into
the stack. There is also a new, simplified client API for using secure sockets.
Although there are changes in the TCP/IP stack, all APIs exposed to client
applications remain the same.

The 6600 will use Series 60 2.0 as an UI so it will use the new TCP/IP Stack,i guess :roll:

will the settings for the browser be the same as for the 3650 or settings for the tcp/ip will be diffrient??and will it work properly on normal grps like will it be faster then the normal wap protocol??

The 5100 may be released before the 6600.The 5100 has been released a few months ago.

Thanks for making my point N/A. :)

...should run better on the N6600 than the Nx650's because it has more RAM. ...

But it's running a newer, heavier version of the operating system which will consume more of the available resources...

Will it do frames?

No; frames are not part of XHTML 1.0/WAP 2.0.

:( I think Opera does frames if there will be a 6600 version.

Will XHTML browse most normal non-framed websites or it is limited to wap sites ony?

Opera for Series 60 has been available for a long time now.

So the 7650/3650 version can be used on the 6600?

Yes,it should work.