I have put together my first Symbian C++ application ;) It's a camera application that allows more settings to the images taken than the built-in camera application does. It also allows for saving the images in "raw" Symbian/Epoc bitmap format. I did it to find out if it is possible to take even better images than the stock application permits. I would like you people out there to test it (if you dare,hehe!) so that we can find out if improvments to the image quality can be done, or if the factory settings are "perfect" ;) So please don't flame on me if the app isn't "perfect" itself, hehe, I am still learning Symbian, and as I wrote its main purpose is to find out the "hardware limits" of the camera.
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Update: A new beta that now saves the settings. (Thanks to Domi, the FExplorer author, for his generous help with INI files! :D ) It also gives the "camera click" when the picture is taken and the camera may be moved, not after storing the picture to the memory.

This is excellent. Very good quality pictures. The bitmap produces at 100% quality a 950kb file and the compressed is 350k which is in good quality too. Thumbs up. This application has potential. Will it be free or not? Open source maybe?

What device did you try it on,a 3650?

Yes 8)

Damn you! I want one too! :cry:

BTW: I tried it on my 7650,it works,i toke snapshot in really bad lighting,the quality was awesome.

Great job Baggis!

I got a great deal too. I got it free from www.themobilerepublic.com with a £27 (200 min free + 50 text ) contract. It is £125 now :D

hope it would be a freeware... :D

wow... nice apps. I hope it would be freeware also


keep up the good work

Great to hear you think it is a good application! :D

GhostDog: Were you able to take better pictures with your 7650 using my app than would have been possible using the built-in?

Regarding its "license": I am a person who likes freeware myself, some of you might have noticed that it is me who has made the WAP-enabled version of phpBB, also that I have a SMS sending PC program available for free. Making this app a freeware is surely "tempting" looking at it from that point of view! On the other hand I, as every person, need money to make a living ;) So my question to you here on this forum is (knowing that freeware is number 1, hehe): Would you consider paying for it? And if yes, how much feels "reasonable"? Of course the app has to be further developed before that, like the settings to be permanent ;)

Regarding "open source": I also like the open source idea, it's a "kind and generous" way of handling software development. But it also "demands" the source code to follow (almost) every design rule there are in order to not require a lot of time to support the people looking at it. As I wrote this is my first attempt to make a Symbian application, that means for sure I haven't followed the "syntax rules" like it is intended when developing Symbian C++ applications, in the sense of for ex. giving varibles their names, etc, etc. So I feel this is not "good enough" to "show up" for all experienced Symbian developers who are out there ;)

Great to hear you think it is a good application! :D

GhostDog: Were you able to take better pictures with your 7650 using my app than would have been possible using the built-in?

Yes,i took two photos in bad lighting,one with the bult in camera app and one with JS-Cam.The snapshot taken with JS-Cam was really better,well the file was quite bigger too :D

I'll do some more testing and let you know.

beeatiful program
even though i would lite it for free i would probably pay 10 dollars any more and its not worth it :D

i installed the app on the memory card and got a general werror everytime i took a photo, cant use it

Regarding "open source": I also like the open source idea, it's a "kind and generous" way of handling software development. But it also "demands" the source code to follow (almost) every design rule there are in order to not require a lot of time to support the people looking at it. As I wrote this is my first attempt to make a Symbian application, that means for sure I haven't followed the "syntax rules" like it is intended when developing Symbian C++ applications, in the sense of for ex. giving varibles their names, etc, etc. So I feel this is not "good enough" to "show up" for all experienced Symbian developers who are out there ;)

There aren't very many open source Series 60 applications yet. So you might want to consider that option. I think there are many developers who have different skills in Symbian OS programming and who could contribute a project like this. I'm one at least...

i installed the app on the memory card and got a general werror everytime i took a photo, cant use it

Hmm... I wonder what caused that? Obviously it works on a number of phones, hehe, including mine. Have you tried to install it on the phone? You see I'm curious about what might cause this ;) What is your firmware version?

There aren't very many open source Series 60 applications yet. So you might want to consider that option. I think there are many developers who have different skills in Symbian OS programming and who could contribute a project like this. I'm one at least...

I will definitely consider it as an option :)

OpenSource is definately a good idea (imho) but depends on the way you look at it - money can encourage better devlopment but at the same time open source allows an entire community to help with it - look at the Linux versus Windows arguments this one can bring up!

Tried it on 3650 and 7650 - both settings at 100% quality led to "General System Error" but it takes it anyway - just doesn't seem to save... happened at 55% as well.

Personally I wouldn't actually pay for a camera app unless it had much better image quality and included things like digital zoom and dealt with night vision better... but at end of day its a phone not a camera and built in app does me. Anything better is fine but wouldn't actually pay for it :)

If anyone is looking for a cheap 3650 - can get it on a 25/month contract for free from www.mobileshop.co.uk on Vodafone and lower it to 13/month after month 3.

great app worked fine.

little bug i think:

you can add your own details to the settings page

Tried it on 3650 and 7650 - both settings at 100% quality led to "General System Error" but it takes it anyway - just doesn't seem to save... happened at 55% as well.

You mean you were completly unable to save images regardless of settings used?(Memory MMC/phone, Bitmap yes/no) Do you have either the directory "c:\nokia\images" or in case of MMC "e:\images" on your phone? I have made the assumption that these are the places where images should be stored, maybe I am wrong, hehe.

great app worked fine.
little bug i think:
you can add your own details to the settings page

Haha! Cool feature! Wasn't aware of that myself ;) Might sound strange to a non-developer, but being a developer I often find that people using what I have done find things like this much faster and better than I do ;) Thanks!

Noticed the "Add Detail" section myself... one thing which I remembered is you cant save settings with a joystick push (trying to rememeber as I uninstalled it now)... and nope it didnt' save at all and dirs are there just gave the error.

So where do i download this app?

one thing which I remembered is you cant save settings with a joystick push (trying to rememeber as I uninstalled it now)... and nope it didnt' save at all and dirs are there just gave the error.

Really strange it didn't save if the dirs are there... Will have to think a bit on that! ;)

What do you mean with save settings with a joystick push? How would that be possible in a form like that?

So where do i download this app?
Take a look at the first post in this thread ;)

As I said uninstalled now but I believe one option was a Yes/No to bmp - that could be toggled with a joystick and you had to go Options->Edit for all the options rather than just a joystick push to make it work.

I have put together my first Symbian C++ application ;) It's a camera application that allows more settings to the images taken than the built-in camera application does. It also allows for saving the images in "raw" Symbian/Epoc bitmap format. I did it to find out if it is possible to take even better images than the stock application permits. I would like you people out there to test it (if you dare,hehe!) so that we can find out if improvments to the image quality can be done, or if the factory settings are "perfect" ;) So please don't flame on me if the app isn't "perfect" itself, hehe, I am still learning Symbian, and as I wrote its main purpose is to find out the "hardware limits" of the camera.

Hi Thanks for releasing this cam application. COOL!!!
I just finished installing in the MMC and it was installed properly. I tried taking a picture and the result is below ;) The settings that I used is:
100% Quality, Monochrome, Bitmap, Saved in MMC, Night. The result is perfect!!!
I've also used settings 420 and the image are perfect too..

Very cool application - finally a user has more option to use the built-in cam :angel:

I hope it'll be a free software (please? LOL) My suggestion.. use Paypal to donate in improving your applications and/or for you to develope more cool one like this :-))

Thank you Baggis

hi,

@my phone:
it needs 2-6 seconds to take the shot and 2-3 seconds to play the sound and save.
if i change the settings i can add some or change some names and i can delte some settings.
if i save the settings with softkey and save after the second shot i have the default settings. it resets.

i havent see the pictures on the pc yet but the pictures looks good on the phone.


cya amigappc

my firmware is 2.50. Any settings i took resulted in general error. dint try installin it on the phone thou

great app two thumbs up :D

As I said uninstalled now but I believe one option was a Yes/No to bmp - that could be toggled with a joystick and you had to go Options->Edit for all the options rather than just a joystick push to make it work.
Aha, I see, but you didn't (not "don't" since you have uninstalled, hehe) have to go to Options->Edit for every single setting, just once to go from "view mode" to "edit mode" ;)

it needs 2-6 seconds to take the shot and 2-3 seconds to play the sound and save.

Yes, the "finer" setting used the longer time it takes to save as the file gets bigger, bitmaps are of course slowest. However, I have also noticed that pictures using the same settings as the built-in camera app takes slightly longer to save. That I don't understand as I use the way of saving images which the development documentation suggests. I will have to look into this if there is something to do that improves speed ;)

if i change the settings i can add some or change some names and i can delte some settings.
Hehe, another user made me aware of that too, I will fix that.

if i save the settings with softkey and save after the second shot i have the default settings. it resets.

That I don't understand, I doesn't happen to me. Is there someone else experiencing this?

my firmware is 2.50. Any settings i took resulted in general error. dint try installin it on the phone thou
Oh dear ;) I hope that if I find out something that might remedy this you are willing to give it another try as it would be most valuable to me in order to prevent it from happen to others too :) Came to think of it: Are you using some other app that might "collide" with JS-Cam?

Great to hear you think it is a good application! :D

GhostDog: Were you able to take better pictures with your 7650 using my app than would have been possible using the built-in?

Regarding its "license": I am a person who likes freeware myself, some of you might have noticed that it is me who has made the WAP-enabled version of phpBB, also that I have a SMS sending PC program available for free. Making this app a freeware is surely "tempting" looking at it from that point of view! On the other hand I, as every person, need money to make a living ;) So my question to you here on this forum is (knowing that freeware is number 1, hehe): Would you consider paying for it? And if yes, how much feels "reasonable"? Of course the app has to be further developed before that, like the settings to be permanent ;)

Regarding "open source": I also like the open source idea, it's a "kind and generous" way of handling software development. But it also "demands" the source code to follow (almost) every design rule there are in order to not require a lot of time to support the people looking at it. As I wrote this is my first attempt to make a Symbian application, that means for sure I haven't followed the "syntax rules" like it is intended when developing Symbian C++ applications, in the sense of for ex. giving varibles their names, etc, etc. So I feel this is not "good enough" to "show up" for all experienced Symbian developers who are out there ;)

howz this sound?
donation-ware? or shareware.. if u like it, donate. not compulsory.

another idea is u make specific versions for say.. businesses or telcos. ie. u ask them "If i make u a special version u can distribute to ur customers; how much will u pay me?".. and so on.

if i save the settings with softkey and save after the second shot i have the default settings. it resets.

That I don't understand, I doesn't happen to me. Is there someone else experiencing this?

Yes,it happened to me too,but i'm using a 7650.

BTW: i did some testing during the day and the pictures taken with JS-Cam are less pixelized then then ones taken with the builtin app.

That I don't understand, I doesn't happen to me. Is there someone else experiencing this?

Didn't happen here either on 3650 but today it happen in 7650. It resets the settings that I have saved...

With 3650 - settings are saved. With 7650 - settings were saved too but after a day, it resetted to the default.. not a big deal since we can edit again. I have the feeling that you can fix it ;)

great app worked fine.
little bug i think:
you can add your own details to the settings page

Haha! Cool feature! Wasn't aware of that myself

That's because you have a CAknForm as your settings page. CAknForm has those menu options built-in (btw, they are in Finnish in my phone ;-) ).

That's one example how open source developers could give their helping hand. For example I could write you a "proper" settings page ;-)

Baggis, if you really want to make some money from this app then I suggest that you arrange a demonstration to Nokia (or another company that uses Symbian) and try to sell it to them. I haven't tried your app yet, but if it gives significant picture quality improvement, they may be interested to integrate it into the firmware of the 3650/3600.

Note that this is already a successful tactic for companies like Hantro(camcorder s/w) plus this guarantees some income from a reliable source.

regards.

I've tried the app already. The pictures are really in good quality :) One thing i noticed though is the click sound is delayed... but no big deal :)

With 3650 - settings are saved. With 7650 - settings were saved too but after a day, it resetted to the default..;)

"After a day"? Do you mean that you are able to save the settings, exit the app, restart the app and your settings are still there? If so then the app is magic somehow, haha!, as I haven't implemented persistent saving of the settings at all (not yet that is ;) ) Or do you mean that if you leave the app running in the background it gets reset "after a day"?

That's because you have a CAknForm as your settings page. CAknForm has those menu options built-in (btw, they are in Finnish in my phone ;-) ).

That's one example how open source developers could give their helping hand. For example I could write you a "proper" settings page ;-)

Yes, told you people I am learning Symbian ;) In this case open source would have been helpful, that's true, but maybe I had missed the "feeling" of finding out how to get rid of those menu options myself then, a "feeling" I also like ;)

To get an Series 60 open source project started maybe we should think of some other app that we Series 60 users "need" and start up a brand new open source project for that? I've seen examples of apps people would like to have in this forum. What do you think?

I've tried the app already. The pictures are really in good quality :) One thing i noticed though is the click sound is delayed... but no big deal :)

Yes, I know ;) I made it "click" after the image is taken AND saved, therefore it is delayed. I might change that to make the click after the image is taken, but before it is saved, and instead show a message telling that the image is getting saved :)

ok :) that would be great! :)

hi,

when is the picture saved ?!

if i make a picture and the picture is shown on the screen. is it now safe and i can move the phone ?!

if it like that than its cool. if it not its ok.


cya amigappc he like ur app

hi,

when is the picture saved ?!

if i make a picture and the picture is shown on the screen. is it now safe and i can move the phone ?!

if it like that than its cool. if it not its ok.


The picture is "taken" as soon as it gets "frozen", from that point to the click sound it gets saved to the memory. That means you can move the camera immediately after the picture "freezes", but not quit the app until the click sound hears. I understand this isn't the most "logical" way of handling it so I will change it so that the click sound hears when it is safe to move the camera, combined with an info message telling that the images is getting saved :)

With 3650 - settings are saved. With 7650 - settings were saved too but after a day, it resetted to the default..;)

"After a day"? Do you mean that you are able to save the settings, exit the app, restart the app and your settings are still there? If so then the app is magic somehow, haha!, as I haven't implemented persistent saving of the settings at all (not yet that is ;) ) Or do you mean that if you leave the app running in the background it gets reset "after a day"?

LOL... sorry if I did not make myself clear. OK here is the story...
Installed the camera app in 7650 and 3650. Edited the settings in 7650 for the camera app, it was saved and it captured an image.. then I kept capturing using different settings (edit then save then capture). Every time I will capture again the settings from the previous session is there which means it is saved... I'm so satisfied :angel:
After a day ----> I use again the camp app to capture an image but the settings has changed back to the original settings which means I have to edit the settings and save it. That is not big deal since it's easy to edit & save ;)

The above story never happens in 3650. I mean.. whatever settings I edited and saved.. it is still here whenever I launch the cam app.. this is cool for me coz your cam app in my 3650 remembers the settins that I edited and saved.

:angel:

In the 3650, the settings aren't saved also :) It keeps changing back to its default everytime I open the app or when i restart my phone :)

In the 3650, the settings aren't saved also :) It keeps changing back to its default everytime I open the app or when i restart my phone :)

Yes, that is what I expect it to do as I haven't added permanent storing of the settings ;) (I wrote that in the Read Me file, hehe) What amazes me is if the settings really get saved and restored on closing and re-opening the app! That should be "impossible"! (If it in fact happens then there is some kind of "auto-magic" I am so far unaware of) ;)

oh ok :) It just shows that I don't read the "read-me" files or the documentation! hehe! Anyway, this might help other people who doesn't read them also! :) hehehehe!

In the 3650, the settings aren't saved also :) It keeps changing back to its default everytime I open the app or when i restart my phone :)

Yes, that is what I expect it to do as I haven't added permanent storing of the settings ;) (I wrote that in the Read Me file, hehe) What amazes me is if the settings really get saved and restored on closing and re-opening the app! That should be "impossible"! (If it in fact happens then there is some kind of "auto-magic" I am so far unaware of) ;)

Cool! my 3650 can do magic!!! it can save your cam app settings though you didnt let it save LOOOOOOOOL ;)

Seriously, that is what I noticed... the settings that I have edited and saved was still here on my 3650 even though I rebooted the phone 8)

Cool! my 3650 can do magic!!! it can save your cam app settings though you didnt let it save LOOOOOOOOL ;)
Seriously, that is what I noticed... the settings that I have edited and saved was still here on my 3650 even though I rebooted the phone 8)
Actually I have enabled support for so called INI files used to save an app's settings, but I didn't expect it to work "by itself" as I only have enabled it without actually explicit using it, hehe. However, I expected even less that it would work on some phones, sometimes, and not work at all on other phones ;) Programming can be fun sometimes, haha!

Tried the app. Images are definately improved.
JPEG artifacts are either much reduced or not there
, I'm impressed. (using a 3650).

I always thought that the jpeg compression of the 3650
images was overly harsh, especially when 128MByte
MMC cards are available. Here's a question for you all :
is an 80kByte 3650 jpeg picture really 640X480 resolution ?
Isn't it effectively worse than this due to the compression ?

regards.

I installed the software but when I tried to take a picture - it keeps saying "general system error!" :(

I installed the software but when I tried to take a picture - it keeps saying "general system error!" :(

Hmmm.. Happens you too?!?! This is really strange, on most phones it works, but some refuses to save the images giving "General system error" instead. This begins to look like "Windows", hehe, not predictable results due to strange phenomenas! Which firmware version are you on? Which other apps have you installed, especially other camera apps? Which settings have you tried? Where did you install it, phone or MMC? Many questions, hehe, but I really would like to know what causes this!

This is really strange, on most phones it works, but some refuses to save the images giving "General system error" instead. This begins to look like "Windows", hehe, not predictable results due to strange phenomenas! Which firmware version are you on? Which other apps have you installed, especially other camera apps? Which settings have you tried? Where did you install it, phone or MMC? Many questions, hehe, but I really would like to know what causes this!

My phone is the lucky two or three? ;)
No errors in using your cam application and MOST of all, it does magic hahaha :angel:

It is understandable because different users have different firmware, different 3rd party applications that might conflict and another thing is your cam app is still in Beta.

Cool to have it working properly :D on my phone.

:angel:

I have the same problem everytime I took photo with my 7650

It is understandable because different users have different firmware, different 3rd party applications that might conflict and another thing is your cam app is still in Beta.


I would say that this wide spectra of strange behavior is somewhat unexpected ;) It feels like "basic services" my app relies on fails, like saving an image using a call to the operating system. If making apps to Series 60 and/or Symbian means facing strange things like this it will surely be a challenge, for good and worse, hehe!

hi,

if i turn the settings to
100%
444
no
mmc

then i became an general error and the apps is closing.
i get also the errorcode
-33

also if i open the app and let the app run in the background to keep the settings saved it gives me after few minutes an error and close himself.


but ur app is pretty good. i love it. it shoot the pic and u can shoot again without pressing the button.



cya amigappc do u want to have the german translation ?!

Tried your settings, got no error. Tried to put it in the background, restored it to foreground and finally got any error myself! "Program closed, ViewSrv 11" it said. If I can reproduce it I might find out what is causing it :) However, I will have little time to work on it the nearest days as I am going to the mountains for skiing tomorrow, so nothing will happen until at least next week ;)

I remember your kind offer about translation :D I will contact you later on when the bugs have been "killed", hehe!

Seems to me that daniatt is the luckiest person who got the 3650! :) No problems at all and it can do magic! Where did you get your phone? hehehe! Interesting... coz mine has problems :(

Seems to me that daniatt is the luckiest person who got the 3650! :) No problems at all and it can do magic! Where did you get your phone? hehehe! Interesting... coz mine has problems :(

I'm sure that my 3650 is the same as others 3650. I am seeing error too but not in Baggis software or a memory problem.

The normal error that I am seeing is something to do with an application that is developed for 7650 but I'm trying to to test it by installing in 3650 or by installing it in the MMC.

What I usually do is after each install of any application, i will always restart the phone whether the application don't need a restart. I treat the phone just like a PC operating system that most of the times need to be restarted to refreshens the memory or for the application to take effect. I'm not sure if this the reason why I don't see other errors like what others are seeing.

Another thing is I do not back-up a corrupted Symbian files because it is useless to back up a corrupted file then later restoring a corrupted system files.

The most important thing that I always remember to do is close any running programs (those apps that are running in the background, if any) before installing or uninstalling anything. I've learned my lesson on this.. I once installed Trigenix or Wild skiz (I couldn't remember) and forgot to disable it before uninstalling it and there "System Error" appeared many times. I'm so thankful that it did not screw up the MMC or the phones internal memory. Willbradys' tip on Wild skinz is very useful.. Wildpalm should mention this so that users will be able to safely remove the application Wild skinz.

I had a bad 3650 phone last time. It is a defective 3650 phone. I dont see any error but I noticed that every time I will open the built-in camera, it will simply restart the phone. I rushed to Nokia center and they checked the phone. They told me that the "camera hardware" is faulty. They asked me if I want them to repair or replace with new device. Of course, I prefer a new 3650 :angel:
They gave me a new one (with different IMEI#) then I have to e-mail the developers to send me a new license code for the applications that I have since the IMEI# has changed.

enough said ;)

:angel: :angel:

i see! :) thanks for the tip! I'll keep that in mind... :)

hi baggis,

so enjoy ur holidays?!.

try to releax that is important 4 good programmer like u.


cya amigappc

I've been keeping up with this app, sounds great but as I've only just orderd my 3650 I cant test it yet so was wondering if anyone can post sample photos from the app, mabye with the same photo taken using the built in software to compare the difference ?

Cheers

Hi there! :D

I'm Ferdi from the Netherlands.

I just made my self a litle test.
I made a pic with the standard 3650 photo app.
Also made a pic with Photographer2.0
And with Jan-Soft app. in Monochrome, Colour 420, 422, 444.

All the pic's where made in the best quality that was available for the used app's.

Can people post more comparisons pics please?
Also how is the app coming along? :) Sounds fab!

I agree .. this jan-soft camera app is cool.

The images that it took really amazes me :angel:

After I install the app.. I get "Beta Expired" when I attempt to take a picture... Where can I get a newer version?

Thanks!

i would love to see an update on this app also

Hi folks!

I will try to make a new beta with a prolonged expiration date as I haven't been able to finish the "sharp" version ;)

After I install the app.. I get "Beta Expired" when I attempt to take a picture... Where can I get a newer version?

Thanks!
:(I get the same message, when I try to make a picture

Do you guys read all the posts,or just the ones that suit you? One post up,Bagis,the author of the applications said that he will make a prolonged beta.I think that really explains the "beta expired" problems :D

Do you guys read all the posts,or just the ones that suit you? One post up,Bagis,the author of the applications said that he will make a prolonged beta.I think that really explains the "beta expired" problems :D

Hehe, seems that some people reads 1/2 of the posts.

Waiting for new release, so i could test it. :)

I have now uploaded a new beta that will expire on Oct 1 2003. To d/l go to the first post in this thread :) Have fun and please remember to report problems, suggestions, whatever ;)

Thanks, Baggis for the extended version!

But i encountered a problem, when i tried to take a shot, the following err appear: "Jan-Soft: System error!"

I am using nok3650 and have tried installing on both phone and MMC memory. But problem persists.

Please advise :fadein: .

Oh, gotta test it when i get home...

worked fine for me

Thanks, Baggis for the extended version!

But i encountered a problem, when i tried to take a shot, the following err appear: "Jan-Soft: System error!"

I am using nok3650 and have tried installing on both phone and MMC memory. But problem persists.

Please advise :fadein: .

I have heard about problems like that, too sad I don't know why it happens... Too me, and to several others, it works OK. Which version is your firmware? Are you running other programs at the same time? I extended the beta so that more people could test it and report back errors like this, so I appreciate you did! I will try to find some time to look into if there is something to do, at least try to improve the error messages it gives so that "debugging" gets easier :)

sorry, but can anyone teach me how to check firmware on nok 3650?

Punch the following from standby screen (as if you are dialling a phone number)

*#0000#

After you punch the last # you should see a screen that shows you the FW version.

Punch the following from standby screen (as if you are dialling a phone number)

*#0000#

After you punch the last # you should see a screen that shows you the FW version.

Thanks a lot!

I got this on the display:-
ver is 2.5
13-02-2003
NHL-8

Btw, my phone is pretty new without any installation before. Maybe i try going to nokia care to upgrade my firmware ;)

Tested your software. Works great and quality is way better than with Photographer, but of course picture size is bigger.

It would be nice though, if it would save the settings... And option to take off that camera 'click' sound. I don't like it! :P

Great software!

I got this on the display:-
ver is 2.5
13-02-2003
NHL-8

Btw, my phone is pretty new without any installation before. Maybe i try going to nokia care to upgrade my firmware ;)

2.5 is what I have too, and I don't think there is a newer version available. Like I wrote in the first post this app is my first attempt to make a Symbian Series 60 app, even though I have many years C/C++ experience, so I can't use previous knowledge about Symbian to solve problems or even better avoid them, hehe. What bugs me is that in a "well defined environment" like I thought Symbian was there shouldn't be these "strange" things happening. It is like in Windows, hehe, and that isn't good.. ;)

Did I ask you about the setting for storing the images? Phone or MMC?

Tested your software. Works great and quality is way better than with Photographer, but of course picture size is bigger.

It would be nice though, if it would save the settings... And option to take off that camera 'click' sound. I don't like it! :P

Great software!

Cool that you belong to the lucky people it works for, haha! (See post above)

I will add saving of the settings in coming releases. (In fact there is one user that says it saves for him! That is almost "magic" as I haven't added any specific code which does that, hehe)

Also, a setting for camera click on/off will be added :)

Cool that you belong to the lucky people it works for, haha! (See post above)

I will add saving of the settings in coming releases. (In fact there is one user that says it saves for him! That is almost "magic" as I haven't added any specific code which does that, hehe)

Also, a setting for camera click on/off will be added :)

Nice one. Would be better if would say something like... "Image saved" or "Picture saved" after it saves the picture. Because it takes some time to save of course.

I took a picture with best quality and size was 500KB, but quality was nice.

Now i got Photographer, Camera FX and JanSoft Camera on my phone. :)

2.5 is what I have too, and I don't think there is a newer version available. Like I wrote in the first post this app is my first attempt to make a Symbian Series 60 app, even though I have many years C/C++ experience, so I can't use previous knowledge about Symbian to solve problems or even better avoid them, hehe. What bugs me is that in a "well defined environment" like I thought Symbian was there shouldn't be these "strange" things happening. It is like in Windows, hehe, and that isn't good.. ;)

Did I ask you about the setting for storing the images? Phone or MMC?

I store all images to MMC. I have also tried change the store to Phone, but problem persists.

I have pass the prog to my colleague who jus bought a 3650, waiting for his feedback.

Is there any way to put this app on the right softkey to replace the 'normal' cam.
Surley someone can write an app to do this?


Keep up the good work Baggis :)


Will

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I have pass the prog to my colleague who jus bought a 3650, waiting for his feedback.

Great! I need all feedback and information I can get about problems like this in order to find the right remedy ;)

Is there any way to put this app on the right softkey to replace the 'normal' cam.
Surley someone can write an app to do this?

Yep, i'm waiting for program like this. It would be nice to have software that would allow us put installed software to left and right softkey. But i'm wondering why there isn't software like this. Is it even possible to make software like this?

Did a quick research but found nothing about how to do that so far. Somehow it should be possible I think ;)

Did a quick research but found nothing about how to do that so far. Somehow it should be possible I think ;)

Hehe, maybe someday... :P

Nokia 3650
V2.50
13-02-003
HNL-8
Original nokia 16mb MMC CARD.

Software installed on the card, no problems what so ever. (i'm expecting a 64mb card in the post anyday soon, so i'll see if that thows up any funnies.

I like this software alot, with the quality set to 100% images coming in at around 500Kb each but in much better quality than the normal Nokia cam.

I only have two things that i thought could be "Fixed" so to speak.

1. the delay in the camera click sound, you take the pic, then about 10 seconds later the camera click sounds. would like the click to sound when i press down on the D-pad.

2. When i go into settings and make my adjustments, although i click save, it doesn't actually save? so everytime i want to use it, i have to manually go in and change the settings again (i.e up the quality)

Appart from that i'm very impressed, and like it a lot, keep up the excellent work!

I only have two things that i thought could be "Fixed" so to speak.

1. the delay in the camera click sound, you take the pic, then about 10 seconds later the camera click sounds. would like the click to sound when i press down on the D-pad.

This is something I will change so that it clicks when the pic is captured by the camera instead like now after the pic is saved to the memory, something that takes long when the quality is set high, as you have noticed, hehe.


2. When i go into settings and make my adjustments, although i click save, it doesn't actually save? so everytime i want to use it, i have to manually go in and change the settings again (i.e up the quality)

You, like several others, have not paid enough attention to the readme-file shown at installation ;) It says saving is not implemeted yet, hehe. You see the main reason I made the app was to test the different settings of the camera, therefore there is little "features" ;) However, it seems people like it so I have got encouraged to make it "more complete" :D


Appart from that i'm very impressed, and like it a lot, keep up the excellent work!

Thanks! :D

You, like several others, have not paid enough attention to the readme-file shown at installation ;) It says saving is not implemeted yet, hehe. You see the main reason I made the app was to test the different settings of the camera, therefore there is little "features" ;) However, it seems people like it so I have got encouraged to make it "more complete" :D

Yeah, i must admit, i'm not one for reading instructions, and read me's :D

not untill it all goes horribly wrong or gets the better of me ;)

Right... when your phone starts emitting strange noises and dialing the Kremlin all by itself then you worry. By the time the FSB (i.e KGB) arrives at your doorstep you will have finally figured out how to stop the annoying calls to the president and it's time to try to explain to the guys in Uniform that IT WASN'T ME.

MWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA

Right... when your phone starts emitting strange noises and dialing the Kremlin all by itself then you worry. By the time the FSB (i.e KGB) arrives at your doorstep you will have finally figured out how to stop the annoying calls to the president and it's time to try to explain to the guys in Uniform that IT WASN'T ME.

MWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA

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it doesnt have anything todo with this tread ?!

baggis, can u make the modifikation, that we can save the settings and the clicksound earlier ?! then i think ur soft is finished.



cya amigappc

so should i try this or not

i read it takes better pics but in what way bigger than 640x480 or is its the same size just better looking.

does it do a better job of taking clear pic if i move while clicking couse that would help alot.

i saw a post of two pics but they look the same to me

so should i try this or not

i read it takes better pics but in what way bigger than 640x480 or is its the same size just better looking.

does it do a better job of taking clear pic if i move while clicking couse that would help alot.

i saw a post of two pics but they look the same to me

The file sizes are larger, hence the pic's look better (less compression), i may be imagining it, but it looked like it also got rid of some of the barrel distortion you get round the edge of pics you take with the normal nokia cam?

Great app! Takes pretty good quality images. I also like the option of taking black and white images!
Although I'd use it, and it's pretty clever, I wouldn't go and buy it unless it had significant improvements over the built-in camera, like Digital Zoom would make me buy it in an instant, as the normal camera is very wide-angle.

also, what is the difference between all the different colour modes??

Hi Baggis, just a wee update, i received my 64mb MMC card yesterday, i had ordered it from www.7dayshop.com, the sticker on the card is a big Green A with a 1 in the center of it, so i'm assuming that is the brand name A1?

ANyway to got a long storg short, i installed JS-Can to the MMC Card and it's running fine, no problems at all.

Infact everything i've installed to the Card is working fine, including Hip-Cam and Photographer2.0

yay.

Hows the new version coming along my man?

I feel like I let you nice people down as I can't make any promise as to when I will have the time to "finish" the app... :( I have so many things to do this time of the year (summer here at last!!). Also, since many of you have made it clear it isn't a "worth to pay for" app it gets lower "prioritized" as I as everyone has to make a living ;)

I have overcome the "system err" problem :D

Everything works fine after I changed my MMC. I jus bought a new 64M sandisk MMC, and application works!

I have overcome the "system err" problem :D

Everything works fine after I changed my MMC. I jus bought a new 64M sandisk MMC, and application works!

Cool!! But I don't understand why, hehe... Do you mean you also are able to install it on the phone now? You wrote before that it failed both on phone and MMC.

Cool!! But I don't understand why, hehe... Do you mean you also are able to install it on the phone now? You wrote before that it failed both on phone and MMC.

I have no problem installing your program on my original mmc or phone, but somehow i got err when using it. I also don't understand why :roll:

actually i have no intention to install your progr on my new mmc but jus happen that my colleague wanted me to try.

it was ok but it drains the memory quikly

it was ok but it drains the memory quikly

Ooops... Memory leaks, hehe. Looks like the app needs a real tune up service ;)

Hay im new 2this and iv read about ur cam app! I want it! Sounds good. Can u send it as i dont know how 2get 2it so i can download it. My email is e-mail@removed fanks m8.

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Stop posting e-mails and start searching :-?

hi,

look on to the first page on this tread. there u find the best app uve ever seen.



cya amigappc

There is now a new beta available at the beginning of this topic! :)

Nice! Gotta install it when i get home. :)

just downloaded your new version, but it tells me its unable to open the image
any ideas?

just downloaded your new version, but it tells me its unable to open the image
any ideas?

"Unable to open"?? That sounds real strange, it doesn't open images, it takes and saves them ;) What are you doing when it happens?

Works great! Quality is excelent, even if it's bit dark.

This is great program Baggis. I hope you continue working on this program. :)

Edit: http://energy2.netfirms.com/
Tested Nokia's original software, JanSoft, Photographer and CameraFX.
I like JanSoft better. :)

Cool! :D

Which settings did you use in your test?

I will not stop working on the program, that is if I survive the holidays(vacation) I will be on for the next coming 5 weeks, hehe. (Will be passing Oulu at least 2 times during that time, please wave to me when I drive by ;) )

Which settings did you use in your test?

I used best settings on every program.

(Will be passing Oulu at least 2 times during that time, please wave to me when I drive by )

I will! :)

hi,

now i think ur soft is the best actuall on the market.

now we can save the settings and now we are the happiest?! ppl in the world ?!

i am absolutly happy.

cya amigappc :angel:

hi,
now i think ur soft is the best actuall on the market.
now we can save the settings and now we are the happiest?! ppl in the world ?!
i am absolutly happy.
cya amigappc :angel:

Hehe, sure nice that you feel happy and are satisfied with the app! Now start suggest how to improve it even further :) I will add an option to enable/disable the camera click sound as someone didn't like it, but more?

just downloaded your new version, but it tells me its unable to open the image
any ideas?

"Unable to open"?? That sounds real strange, it doesn't open images, it takes and saves them ;) What are you doing when it happens?

i just downloaded it my self and it works good. i got the same error a few times too. if you exit out of the program to fast after you take a pic it will only save half the pic then give you an unable to open error. just sent the file to your computer it will open it and you will see half of what you took.

ok so this program work for me and i've been playing with it. taking pics with both the build in program and the new one. but i'm having a hard time finding any differnts the js-cam may be a little better at night but only in a few pics not all. the file size is much bigger so i'm thinking they must be better. but it hard to see it.


and what is the bitmap for, its very big and i can't find a program that will open it on my computer


but all in all it works


i attached a pic that the phone couldn't open

ok heres some pics from the stock camera and jan solf.

am i missing the diff in the pic

it could just be me

it would only let me post 3 so heres the other 2

And here's a feature request which I had already for ages when looking at very dark photos (like the ones just posted): If you compare those pics you'll realize that very much of the speckled colored noise which can be seen on the dark parts of the image reappears almost exactly the same way on the other images done with the very same individual CCD chip as well. This is a typical phenomen observed with CCD's.

In astrophotography you deal with this problem like this: The user creates a so called "Dark Image" (usually by covering the front lense of the camera) which shows just the noise on the otherwise black background. From all subsequently taken photos you just subtract the (properly weighted) dark image. That way you get much better image quality.

For the Nokia 3650 it would be nice if the user would be able to define an image as a "Dark Image". Once you create further images (e.g. at night) the camera software should subtract the assigned "Dark Image" automatically (provided a "Dark Image" has been created already and the feature was enabled by the user).

This would result in HUGE quality improvements for photos taken at night e.g. .

:black: Torsten Rahn 8)

Aha! Thank you for your suggestion, as well as your information about how CCD's works! I will give this a try later on when I will start working on the next release, hehe!

Here's an idea to help us stalkers ,is it possible to map the photo button to the red button so we can take pics through the reject button on our hands free ? :P By the way ,the app is amazing ,keep up the good work

hows the app coming along?

what settings give the best result???BTW @baggis keep up the good work M8

hows the app coming along?

Hehe, the development process is temporarily paused as it still is summer where I live, don't want to stay inside more than my work demands ;) In a month or so the autumn comes, then I will continue ;)

Hi.

When trying to open symbian native bitmap files my M$ XP PC i get some message about unrecognizable format. How do I open symbian native bitmap file created by the Jan Soft application?

Of course the bitmap formats are incompatible, hehe, what else would there be expect? ;)

There is a converter at:

http://www.symbian.com/developer/techlib/v70docs/SDL_v7.0/doc_source/ToolsAndUtilities/FileConversionUtilities-ref/BmconvReference.guide.html

However, I don't see where to download it? It's part of the SDK for Symbian, maybe it's not OK to d/l it separately?

Hi! I tested the beta 3 and i think its realy better than anytingh else!
Where can i get the latest relase???

Hi! I tested the beta 3 and i think its realy better than anytingh else!
Where can i get the latest relase???

Hehe, there is no later release yet. I hope to be able to work on it next month. Keep on using Beta 3 and give feedback! :)

Thanks! Its realy good! The nigh capture could be better... I didnt tested the mbm converter, but i doing on there! ;)

baggis, any update on releasing a non-beta version? :)

where can i find this software, some of you guys sayd the link was in the first post but there is no link there:eek:
Is the app already for purchase or something?

OMG !! The latest beta has expired ,what are we gonna do know !?!?!?!?!?! :eek:

Hello me super newbie here.... unfortunately I too cannot find a link to download the cam software at the start of this thread... Has it been taken off already ?? :confused:

I am sorry, but I have not been able to work on the app as I planned... I am installing a pellets stove at home, takes all my so called 'spare time', hehe. For you who really want to use JS-Cam I can make you an IMEI-locked version without time expiration. PM me the IMEI of your phone and I try to fix it ASAP :)

Sir, where can i get the latest JS-Cam.... how better is it Vs CameraFx...

where do you get this camera app from then, can someone post it on here, thanks